#archiveteam 2012-03-18,Sun

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01:48 πŸ”— closure alard: I did a few fortunecity downloads as a test earlier, not retained. please reset them
03:29 πŸ”— undersco2 chronomex: listening to this talk
03:29 πŸ”— undersco2 man, you have a sexy voice
03:29 πŸ”— undersco2 hahaaha
03:29 πŸ”— chronomex lol
03:29 πŸ”— undersco2 :)
03:30 πŸ”— chronomex don't you look at me that way
03:34 πŸ”— balrog lol
03:34 πŸ”— chronomex I was also pretty congested.
03:48 πŸ”— jonas__ is there any teamwork to make the usernameslists? so that when i generated millions of search words/2-grams, i can exclude those searchterms already done and exclude usernames already found... before trying to carriyng out the searches?
04:10 πŸ”— undersco2 chronomex: hahahaha
04:10 πŸ”— undersco2 I wasn't
04:10 πŸ”— undersco2 I just like your voice
04:10 πŸ”— chronomex k
04:11 πŸ”— undersco2 I'm a bit of a voice connoisseur
04:11 πŸ”— chronomex hrm.
04:11 πŸ”— undersco2 <Perdix> Twitter> @linux_txt: I essentially started using Gentoo because my ....ing KDE clock would never show the right time in Red Hat.
04:11 πŸ”— undersco2 <nrr> !twat linux_txt
04:20 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T BANGARANG! I WISH TO RESCUE THE CITY OF FORTUNE
04:21 πŸ”— SketchCow Hi, Short!
04:21 πŸ”— SketchCow Join #fortuneshitty and follow the directions.
04:22 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T alrighty
04:50 πŸ”— db48x jonas__: I don't think there is
04:50 πŸ”— db48x jonas__: ask alard, I imagine he can give you the word lists he's already used
05:07 πŸ”— jonas__ i did, guess hes sleeping
05:11 πŸ”— undersco2 jonas__: he's GMT+1 iirc, so
05:12 πŸ”— jonas__ me too =]
05:12 πŸ”— undersco2 oh okay, cool :)
05:12 πŸ”— jonas__ how are you doingg?^^
05:12 πŸ”— undersco2 Good, about to sleep actually
05:39 πŸ”— undersco2 http://i.imgur.com/tPaPz.png
06:56 πŸ”— willwill seems that my download script screwed up again. sorry for that. please clear all undone usernames on my account. (memac0
07:56 πŸ”— ersi alard: willwill had another booboo @ memac
07:59 πŸ”— no2penci1 BANGARANG! I wish to rescue the city of fortune
08:01 πŸ”— DFJustin join #fortuneshitty and follow the directions
08:01 πŸ”— no2penci1 lol
08:07 πŸ”— chronomex it's 3 steps and takes 2 minutes
08:07 πŸ”— no2penci1 I was "lol" at the play on words
08:08 πŸ”— no2penci1 am installing git now...
08:08 πŸ”— chronomex o..k
08:08 πŸ”— chronomex don't see a play on words there but whatever
08:08 πŸ”— no2penci1 fortuneshitty
08:08 πŸ”— no2penci1 fortne city
08:08 πŸ”— chronomex ah yeah
08:08 πŸ”— no2penci1 ... I found it funy.
08:08 πŸ”— chronomex that's our traditional "welcome to the fold" for newly threatened internet landlords
08:10 πŸ”— ersi no2penci1: It's a bit funny, especially since fortune city is a bit shitty
08:21 πŸ”— lee_ I was running seesaw.sh and it filled disk
08:21 πŸ”— chronomex how much disk did it fill?!?
08:21 πŸ”— lee_ 20G
08:22 πŸ”— chronomex that's very strange. on my instance it seems to delete after uploading, so it doesn't go over a few hundred megs.
08:22 πŸ”— lee_ thought I was running the mobileme archiver alongside fortunecity
08:22 πŸ”— lee_ and 14G are from that
08:22 πŸ”— chronomex ah
08:23 πŸ”— lee_ upload-finished.sh doesn't upload the files
08:23 πŸ”— lee_ ah, probably because they're not finished
08:23 πŸ”— lee_ I'll restart a single thread there
08:31 πŸ”— ersi don't do too many btw
08:46 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T is there much need for help on the mobileme site?
08:49 πŸ”— chronomex oh god yes
08:49 πŸ”— chronomex especially if you have a few dozen terabytes to spare
08:50 πŸ”— chronomex we're looking at ~250T total
08:51 πŸ”— chronomex somewhere between 200T and 250T is where all the estimates have been ending up
08:51 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T im guessing the server that stuff is getting uploaded to doesnt have the space?
08:51 πŸ”— db48x the size per user has been going up as well
08:51 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T or do you just mean temp storage and/or BW for those downloading it
08:52 πŸ”— db48x S[h]O[r]T: it's all being uploaded to archive.org, which has the space
08:52 πŸ”— ersi S[h]O[r]T: so yes, temp storage
08:53 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T im not concerned BW wise atm so if i use seasaw should be fine
08:53 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T the wiki says the DL speeds from me.com are slow, is that still the case?
08:54 πŸ”— db48x they're always slow when you're spidering; most webpages are small
08:54 πŸ”— db48x that means lots of repeated connections to the server
08:54 πŸ”— db48x good news is that you can run as many instances of the script as you like
08:58 πŸ”— ersi yeah, me.com's got good sort of infrastructure
08:59 πŸ”— ersi fortuneshitty doesn't have that
09:02 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T apple to orange :P
09:04 πŸ”— chronomex I've saturated my connection with a single me.com downloader.
09:04 πŸ”— chronomex me.com is mostly full of big things like pictures and video.
09:05 πŸ”— chronomex and the have keepalive turned on also.
10:15 πŸ”— Schbirid meh, wiki registration is still broken :(
11:44 πŸ”— tef_ anarchivists
11:45 πŸ”— db48x that's us
11:46 πŸ”— db48x huh, is ytmnd down?
11:48 πŸ”— tef_ db48x: just an accidental typo that seemed rather effective :v
12:17 πŸ”— Wyatt I have been shaken from my stupour. Is there no wik page for Fortunecity?
12:18 πŸ”— ersi Wyatt: http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=FortuneCity
12:19 πŸ”— Wyatt Oh, upper-case C
12:24 πŸ”— tef_ hmmmm
12:24 πŸ”— Wyatt So this one doesn't store anything locally? Or does it keep a copy just in case?
12:27 πŸ”— tef_ well it uploads after downloading
12:27 πŸ”— ersi I run dld-client.sh, it'll just save it locally
12:28 πŸ”— ersi if you run seesaw, it'll download a user, then upload it
12:29 πŸ”— Wyatt Ah, gotcha
14:01 πŸ”— DieFetteE hello.
14:35 πŸ”— alard LimbClock: Hello.
14:36 πŸ”— Schbirid LimbClock: hello Elke
14:37 πŸ”— LimbClock :I
14:37 πŸ”— LimbClock i just used that to preserve my privacy. i got it off a Die Äertze song of the same name
14:38 πŸ”— Schbirid i know ;)
14:38 πŸ”— LimbClock oh wow, someone does
14:38 πŸ”— LimbClock (german exchange students in the animation line....)
14:38 πŸ”— Schbirid i mean, it just said DieFetteE
14:38 πŸ”— Schbirid heh
14:38 πŸ”— LimbClock yeah, string was too long.
14:51 πŸ”— devesine Let's see, how does it go? Ah, yes: RAMALAMA! I WISH TO FREE THE GENIE FROM THE CITY OF FORTUNE
14:56 πŸ”— LimbClock i am going to consult this TED iOS app to see if there's any TED talks about disregarding perfectionism
14:58 πŸ”— LimbClock Sadly there is not
14:59 πŸ”— LimbClock my TED Talk idea: Disregard Perfectionsm, embrace functionalit.y
15:00 πŸ”— ersi "Fuck perfectionism, archive as much as possible" would be mine
15:01 πŸ”— LimbClock or rather
15:01 πŸ”— LimbClock Disregard perfect, embrace shipping
15:01 πŸ”— LimbClock :D
15:01 πŸ”— LimbClock Real Artists Archive
15:01 πŸ”— LimbClock hm
15:02 πŸ”— devesine The Good is the enemy of the At All
15:03 πŸ”— LimbClock i wonder if i should do some weird talk about hoe perfectionism is the enemy of finishing or something
15:03 πŸ”— ersi it's been done and is in my opinion boring
15:03 πŸ”— ersi everyone knows about procrastination for example
15:03 πŸ”— devesine submit a talk, then walk onto stage, say "Sorry, I haven't finished polishing my talk yet", and walk off
15:04 πŸ”— Soojin hehe
15:04 πŸ”— LimbClock LOL
15:04 πŸ”— LimbClock i'd do just that
15:05 πŸ”— LimbClock actually, i could see Jello Biafra do that.
15:05 πŸ”— LimbClock devesine: rather, i'd go there without preparing
15:05 πŸ”— LimbClock doing a talk with BUTT FEEL
15:06 πŸ”— LimbClock Cause, why not.
15:07 πŸ”— alard devesine: Response to your magic spell: join #fortuneshitty.
15:07 πŸ”— LimbClock And in the end "You might think that this TED talk was disjointed and Rambling. I admit that. But at least i did it, and managed to get it out there."
15:07 πŸ”— closure alard: hey, could you requeue items claimed by closure? Will not be uploaded. closure_ is all ok
15:08 πŸ”— alard closure: Just claimed, or also marked done?
15:08 πŸ”— closure both
15:10 πŸ”— alard 453 done-by-closure.txt
15:10 πŸ”— devesine alard: woo, thanks
15:11 πŸ”— alard Maybe we should start sending some of the fortunecity people to memac, since fortunecity may be busy enough.
15:12 πŸ”— ersi indeed, I've dropped focity completely and focused on memac myself
15:12 πŸ”— alard Good. Maybe we should ask those with large bandwidth to focus more on memac.
15:14 πŸ”— Wyatt memac?
15:14 πŸ”— alard mobileme.
15:14 πŸ”— Wyatt AH
15:14 πŸ”— alard Closing in June or July, but it's huge.
15:15 πŸ”— alard It's web.me.com, homepage.mac.com, hence the name
15:15 πŸ”— * devesine spins up a memac downloader too.
15:18 πŸ”— alard And if there's anyone downloading memac with a large upload bandwidth (say, > 5MB/s), it would be interesting to use the direct-to-archive.org scripts instead of seesaw.
15:18 πŸ”— ersi I use upload-finished.sh ;o
15:19 πŸ”— Wyatt alard: Point me in the right direction, and I'll do it.
15:20 πŸ”— alard Wyatt: Great. I'll send you some instructions. (It's a bit more involved than the normal scripts.)
15:21 πŸ”— alard But it helps reduce the pressure on the normal rsync upload and SketchCow.
15:21 πŸ”— devesine alard: i'll give it a shot as well
15:22 πŸ”— LimbClock Distributed Downloading and uploading?
15:22 πŸ”— Wyatt I should be able to manage that. If not on the VPS, on my work machine.
15:22 πŸ”— Wyatt (VPS is monitored; work machine, not so much :3
15:22 πŸ”— Wyatt )
15:22 πŸ”— alard The idea is that the script downloads 10GB of data, makes a tar file and uploads it to the Internet Archive directly.
15:23 πŸ”— Wyatt Sounds like a winner
15:28 πŸ”— Schbirid ahk
15:29 πŸ”— Deewiant This looks like a bug in memac's dld-me-com.sh: on line 195, the check for "http" can match anywhere in the URL, so won't a URL like "dir/http.html" stay relative and eventually fail?
15:31 πŸ”— Deewiant (Here: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/mobileme-grab/blob/master/dld-me-com.sh#L191 )
15:34 πŸ”— alard Deewiant: That could be a bug, yes.
15:44 πŸ”— alard Deewiant: Should be fixed now, thanks. https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/mobileme-grab/commit/fd19df39c4159eb48af736c7c36e71c43bfeb96b
15:45 πŸ”— Deewiant Good, and no problem. :-)
15:48 πŸ”— LimbClock Have you dudes Archived Shareware games from America and Abroad?
15:49 πŸ”— Wyatt LimbClock: cd.textfiles.com?
15:49 πŸ”— LimbClock genius
15:49 πŸ”— LimbClock the future is amazin.
15:49 πŸ”— Wyatt Those are also all on IA, I think.
15:49 πŸ”— LimbClock i remember the shareware days in LAppeenranta...
15:50 πŸ”— LimbClock everyone had a copy of Doom Episode 1.
15:50 πŸ”— Wyatt So who's Ivan and what's so vile?
16:54 πŸ”— SketchCow Huzzah
16:55 πŸ”— SketchCow OK, I'm now slamming ALL sorts of data out of batcave and fortress.
16:55 πŸ”— SketchCow So performance will be an issue.
16:56 πŸ”— ersi I'll stop my upload, and spare fos a whole wopping 1MB/s of IO
16:59 πŸ”— SketchCow No, keep stuff going.
16:59 πŸ”— SketchCow It'll just be slowed a tad.
17:09 πŸ”— LimbClock do you think you'll be able to save all the free stuff?
17:21 πŸ”— godane http://weaponlord.crunchtimegames.com/
17:22 πŸ”— godane it has a commercial weaponlord game
17:23 πŸ”— LimbClock hm
17:49 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T alard is the direct to archive.org for memac automated too like seasaw?
18:32 πŸ”— alard S[h]O[r]T: Yes. It is a little more work to set up, but then it runs by itself.
19:33 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T i wouldnt mind setting that up whenever. my server is 100mbit. really only starts to max the BW when rsyncing
20:17 πŸ”— alard S[h]O[r]T: That would be cool. Do you have enough disk space. (It needs up to 40GB per instance.)
20:24 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T ive got about 250gb
20:25 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T i can free more if needed
20:28 πŸ”— alard S[h]O[r]T: No, 250GB is more than enough. I'll send you some instructions.
20:44 πŸ”— PurpleJes heard about your project for fortunecity last night. I have a few shells open and running for it. Notice every so often one will bomb out with an Error(3). Anything special I should do in that event? (Have been just restarting seesaw)
20:47 πŸ”— Schbirid PurpleJes: nope, just restart seesaw
20:48 πŸ”— Schbirid i am really good at telling other people what to do after being told myself!
20:48 πŸ”— PurpleJes cool. thanx.
20:48 πŸ”— PurpleJes lols.
21:09 πŸ”— PurpleJes oh how unique.. after I ask about error(3) I get an error(4) I feel specials.
22:55 πŸ”— undersco2 <Veinor> $ echo -n "dB\x94\xac\xcd@\xf9\t\x02" | sha256sum; echo -n "\xfc\x1d\xeb\x9f \xd7e\xbe\x00" | sha256sum
22:55 πŸ”— undersco2 <Veinor> f6603cbcb030a0e8038d01e0052dab23bb59fbc727b1a33e5e72a9579c33e435 -
22:55 πŸ”— undersco2 <Veinor> f6603cbcb030a0e81fe795f54a8629faaccf8e250f8b34d15009a4167a556d68 -
22:56 πŸ”— undersco2 <Veinor> took 14 hours to find on my 3ghz cpu
22:56 πŸ”— undersco2 we;lp
23:01 πŸ”— Nemo_bis undersco2, did you see this? https://gdash.wikimedia.org/
23:02 πŸ”— undersco2 :o
23:02 πŸ”— Nemo_bis https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/03/15/measuring-site-performance-at-the-wikimedia-foundation/pageview-forecast/
23:03 πŸ”— Nemo_bis ehm https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/03/15/measuring-site-performance-at-the-wikimedia-foundation/
23:03 πŸ”— undersco2 that's cool
23:42 πŸ”— SketchCow OKAY PEOPLE
23:42 πŸ”— SketchCow I AM BACK HOME
23:42 πŸ”— SketchCow SHIT WILL GET DONE
23:43 πŸ”— balrog :)
23:46 πŸ”— SketchCow Seriously, been away for 30 days from home.
23:46 πŸ”— SketchCow That's a long time.
23:53 πŸ”— balrog wow
23:53 πŸ”— balrog yeah

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