[00:11] I assume you've seen it, but: http://i.imgur.com/fwugI.jpg [01:37] http://archive.org/details/stage6-database-dump [01:53] so, quassel is pretty much the best irc client now [01:53] this is fantastic [01:53] so, just found this [01:54] The images once uploaded to ImageHost.org will be taken offline soon. Please backup and/or re-upload them to other services if you want to keep them. [01:54] on here http://f.imagehost.org/view/0738/Charmander_wide [01:54] (uh, ignore the content >.>) [01:57] or just http://www.imagehost.org/ [01:57] oh, yeah [01:58] lol [01:58] Anything new with fos? Still down? [01:59] bummer [01:59] it's down? [01:59] you know you are getting bored of retro when you dump $300 on a game to complete a collection, and a viagra would give you more wood [02:00] hahahahaha [02:00] CowerAway: What're you collecting? [02:00] Wow fos is not even accepting connections via rsync, seems like [02:00] right now, odyssey2 [02:00] I have a mobileme user I'd love to get uploaded [02:01] CowerAway: I don't know too much Odyssey2 - what was the last game you needed? [02:01] sealed powerlords (and a few other things in same bunch) [02:01] just need sealed powerlords proto (probably does not exist) to have em all [02:01] And I understand the feeling. My desire to collect physical things has been going down a ton. The only thing that keeps me after Laseractive is my desire to get the games dumped. [02:01] Sealed proto? :p [02:02] never rule anything out around here :) [02:02] laseractive.. the megacd thing? [02:03] Yep! Not just MegaCD though. It had no game console builtin, and there were two game modules. The other was Turbo Duo [02:03] thought i just saw a bunch of laseractive on egay, but i don't tag laserdiscs anymore, half the ones i get are bitrotted [02:03] (It was a BRILLIANT idea to launch a console with two sets of competing, incompatible games.) [02:04] yawn, niqueil (SP) is working.. i'm gonna break this cold once and for all.. cya [02:05] a few hours ago, fos accepted my rsync connection, but didn't transfer any data [02:06] CowerAway: See you - hope you ditch the cold! [02:07] if i had more money, i'd probably be dumping it on LDs at a nearby record shop (that also sells a lot of vinyl) [02:09] I miss the store I used to go to for LDs in Toronto. I picked up tons of obscurities and rarities on the cheap. [02:10] on the lookout for old films, mainly. I did happen across one that didn't make the transition to DVD yet. here's a scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo1w5Pxz8Fg [02:11] Hey, on a similar subject, I'm on the lookout for a certain CD-ROM. It's the Soundware collection from 1993, a CD with lots of PC-compatible sound files. [02:12] I had a copy, got it for my sixteenth birthday in 1994. I think I lost it in a move in 1998. [02:12] Coderjoe: Yeah, it's a good way to get decent-quality copies of stuff that never got (may never get) a relase on DVD. [02:12] I've got a few things I've been meaning to get around to digitizing for that reason, though I love the obscurities more than the feature movies. [02:13] I haven't even gotten around to WATCHING Human Highway yet, but I ought to. I'm sure someone else has already digitized it, anyway. [02:14] and in the record portion, in the dollar bin, i happened on a whitelabel of Tracy Lords' Control, which is kinda cool. [02:41] underscor: why the hell are you posting furry porn in here [02:42] Wow, ton of sealed Laseractive games just went on ebay. It's got to be the easiest rare system to collect sealed games for. [02:42] (Because no one bought them when it was new, naturally.) [03:52] for when SketchCow shows up … http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/extinct-marsupial.org is very likely wrongly excluded: read http://gniklats.com/ and http://rachelmarone.com/banned-from-kickstarter-for-being-a-stalking-victim.html please [03:52] I have to go though [03:54] bbl [04:49] goddamn [04:49] a friend showed me Channel 4's Black Mirror anthology [04:49] what a fucking depressing series [04:50] I highly recommend it [04:51] indeed [04:51] * chronomex continues charging his black fondleslab [04:51] 15 Million Merits in particular just hit too close to home [04:51] aye [04:55] the British seem to have a flair for that sort of infinite-descent-into-bleakness fiction [04:55] The Machine Stops, 1984, this [05:18] indeed [05:29] crap. yet another in a long line of items for the stage6 collection that will need to go dark [05:30] happened to be the entire Space Mutiny episode of mst3k [05:31] was wondering what this 887MB upload was [05:31] well now posterity can learn of Dirk Hardpec [05:31] Cliff Beefpile! [05:35] Flint Ironstag! [05:36] Look alive, everyone! Sorry, Debbie. [05:40] and for those that may have missed it before (such as underscor), http://archive.org/details/stage6-database-dump [05:40] no, it is not a dump of their database, sadly [05:42] 1273 videos uploaded so far [05:42] it's gonna suck when I hit those three 1GB files [05:43] (which, if memory serves, are all hd train ride videos from some japanese train otaku) [05:44] girugamesh! http://archive.org/details/stage6-1987995 [05:45] That sounds dull, but at least historically interesting to someone somewhere [05:51] train otaku are serious business [05:51] http://archive.org/details/stage6-2238370 [05:52] Dunno what it is about trains, but people that get into them get *really* into them [05:53] Rebuilding steam engines from rustpiles to functioning machines and running them [05:55] i know someone that does that with a small local hobbyist railroad company [07:03] So, fos is back but rsync isn't? Maybe SketchCow restarted the server but didn't restart rsync? [07:47] weird [07:53] I think SketchCow once said that rsync didn't start on boot, and that that was a good thing. :) [08:11] blah [08:13] Hey gang, is fos.textfile.com down? My VMs can't conect to it... [08:13] rsync failes to connect, time out. [08:13] the machine is up, apparently rsync doesn't start on boot [08:14] ah, someone has to manually run it then? [08:14] and that someone is SketchCow, who has a flight early in the morning [08:15] so might as well keep the VMs turned off then huh? [11:55] hrrm [11:55] is batcave down? [11:59] The rsync on fos is down (SketchCow fixed the server, but didn't start rsync, or something like that). The memac proxy on batcave works. [12:01] ok, thx for info [13:19] Rsync on FOS is back up: https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/192965028113154050 [13:34] awesome. [14:28] got the first 17 episodes of crankygeeks on archive.org [14:28] 17 + plot [14:28] *pilot [15:38] mistym: word [15:42] winr4r: Hey! [17:54] yipdw: I posted it simply because I noticed the message, I didn't think about the content [20:47] heroku logs --tail is so much fun to display on a big screen [20:48] yipdw: it really is :) [20:48] kennethre: is there a Gratuituous Colors addon [20:48] actually [20:48] Sorry about that (the rsync) [20:48] I guess I can pipe it through lolcat [20:48] I mean, it's good that it waits unti I am ready to make it work. [20:48] But still [20:48] Is it running OK> [20:48] yipdw: i actually found this new thing... [20:49] SketchCow: ffnet seems to be doing fine [20:49] holy shit i'm at 40TB [20:49] yipdw: http://wynnnetherland.com/journal/a-stylesheet-author-s-guide-to-terminal-colors [20:50] hi SketchCow [20:51] kennethre: oh dang, that's neat [20:51] yipdw: yeah it's pretty amazing so far [20:52] So, hi, hi. I leave for the movies in another hour or so, so if there's something RIGHT NOW that needs my attention, hidey-hoo. [20:53] oh yeah [20:54] heroku logs --tail | lolcat [20:54] BEST EVER [20:54] hehehe [20:54] need to get cowsay in there too [20:55] SketchCow: i noticed there is no sockington category on the wikimedia commons [20:55] SketchCow: do you have a fundamental objection to all the socks photos being copied there? [20:57] i want to do that because it's well within the rules there *AND* it'd piss off the right kind of people, and your license allows it, but i won't do it if it's not okay with you [20:58] hahahahaha [20:58] Oh, feel free. [21:00] SketchCow: excellent, thanks :) [21:00] nothing like pissing off deletionists [21:02] fucking deletionists, 12,000 articles deleted from German Wikipedia here https://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/downloads/detail?name=depluspediaorg_w-20120407-history.xml.7z [21:03] chronomex: commons is run by copyright nazis (which i approve of to some extent), but there are very few deletionists admins there [21:04] there's obviously a lot of crossover between wikipedia and the commons, which means there are 1) lots of people who would LOVE to randomly delete shit and 2) unable to do anything about it, which hugely amuses me [21:06] Someone bring back deletionpedia [21:07] we are discussing that on wikiteam mailing list [21:09] eh, i gained a *little* bit more faith in wikipedia when i watched a deletionist with whom i argued get indefinitely blocked for being an obnoxious shithead [21:09] That's like saying "during the rape harvest, I saw one person was only half-raped" [21:09] * chronomex links WP:SHITHEAD to something [21:09] english wikipedia is very inclusionist, anyway, many pages really non-notable are deleted, but they contain info [21:10] SketchCow: yeah, that's true [21:11] delete all the things [21:11] Just like when I see people tell me about working within the wikipedia system [21:12] SketchCow: oh, fuck *that* shit [21:12] "If I slightly loose one of the bolts on the rape machine, it will rape slightly less every 1 out of 1000 rapes" [21:12] haha [21:14] i dropped out of wikipedia when i realised that the children really did run the daycare, though it took me a while to figure that out [21:15] wikimedia commons is still fun though [21:15] What was that line - that competition is so fierce because stakes are so low? [21:15] http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~pad/emu/v3.html <-- ti-92 calculator in javascript, will kill firefox probably [21:15] you are wrong, wikipedia has rules, if you dont like them, launch your own wikipedia [21:16] shaqfu: i'm fond of that one, you can afford to be an asshole when being an asshole doesn't have immediate consequences [21:18] Ah, Sayre's Law [21:26] Archive Team deserves a Wikipedia article. [21:26] emijrp: that's what i thought [21:28] emijrp: i've even thought about doing it, but that would mean me spending a lot of time defending the article's existence [21:29] for years, too, because if i stopped paying attention someone would end up nominating it for deletion [21:29] if we find some relevant appearances of AT in the news, and add them as references, it will probably survive [21:30] emijrp: i've collected quite a few [21:30] emijrp: mostly in the aim of having an "in the media" page on the archive team wiki [21:31] i've collected 10 mainstream media mentions, all of which were either entirely or mostly about archive team [21:32] by the way, we need some brilliant prose, not lolololo WE ARE HAX0RZ^H^H^H^H [21:32] * shaqfu searches the local newsbot [21:32] emijrp: i'm okay with writing prose (though i'm not jason) [21:33] but archive team has been on the BBC, NPR, radio NZ, and CBC [21:33] anyway, we are AT members, so, it is a handicap for neutral writing [21:33] definitely "notable" but that won't stop the deletionist fucks [21:33] emijrp: Maybe a history and what-we-do? [21:34] If it's kept expository NPOV won't creep in [21:34] shaqfu: do *you* want to end up fighting to keep the page? [21:35] because even when it is within their guidelines, that's what you'll end up doing [21:35] Point taken [21:35] i can help to design the article in the wiki way, im a veteran user https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Emijrp but my english is not so good [21:36] Talk:Archive Team [21:36] Remember, if you burn wikipedia to the ground, make sure people are trapped inside [21:36] Delete. Because it'd be ironic. [21:36] emijrp: i've been there since about 2005 [21:36] me too, username? [21:37] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Collard [21:38] k [21:38] Off-topic, but LOC's calling for mini-presentations on digital archiving, if anyone's interested [21:40] mail roulette http://thelistserve.com/ [21:44] where are the references about AT in the news? [21:45] emijrp: http://pastebin.com/gpcNSHaS [21:46] (those are notes i made to myself, sorry that it's not too well-formatted) [21:46] i especially liked the picture in http://www.technologyreview.com/web/39317/ [21:47] lol [21:48] haha https://www.technologyreview.com/files/78319/0112-Archive-B_x616.jpg [21:48] I was wondering about that one, if that's Jason in 18th century French dress [21:48] emijrp: yup, loved that, haha [21:50] i think they are good references, anyway, if a deletionist start a AFD, don't kick his balls because that only produces wiki-drama, wait to others to defend the article [21:51] create it and i will help you [21:54] Are there any good histories of AT? Most of what I've seen are hazy "there was a call to action, and here we are today" [21:54] Which may be accurate - we're a hazy group - but anything more would be useful to add [22:00] winr4r: are youworking on it? [22:02] emijrp: on a wikipedia article? fuck no, see above [22:03] ok, i will start it [22:04] emijrp: i will actually put money on that getting speedied within an hour of you creating it [22:04] Archive Team, or The Archive Team ? [22:04] and if it goes through that gauntlet, ending up in articles for deletion [22:04] emijrp: just Archive Team [22:07] there are some pics of sockington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockington [22:08] emijrp: i'm going to import all jason's pics of sockington to the wikimedia commons, as he CC-BY'd them [22:22] Coming in late to this discussion, but I think what brought on ArchiveTeam was the AOL Hometown shutdown. [22:23] Funny, I just reread SketchCow's two blog posts about that earlier today. In the second, he talks about how such a team might work. [22:24] Jaybird11: yes, then some people took up the suggestion, got together and created it [22:24] citations overload https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive_Team [22:24] please, expand [22:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JA4EPRbWhQ&feature=related [22:25] er, wrong channel [22:25] emijrp: nicely done [22:26] emijrp: hahahahahah, I love those citations [22:27] haha yeah [22:27] i like how he put in 10 citations for one sentence [22:29] Greetings all! [22:29] DragonDon: hello! [22:29] So, with wikipedia. Let's say I run a company, and I want to put details about how we do xyz [22:30] I need to tell a news source, who then "reports it", and then I can cite THAT [22:30] but I can't just put my own info in there? [22:30] underscor: everything needs a source there [22:30] Would it be amusing to have the 'nes source' cite that you have a wikipedia article to justfiy you having a wiki article? :D [22:32] hahahaha [22:32] http://xkcd.com/214/ [22:32] Oh, wrong one [22:32] http://xkcd.com/978/ [22:33] yeah, saw that, still waking up here, so will take a bit for my mind to grasp it :) [22:39] so, does anyone know who the pop-science writer they are reffering to in the comic? Cory Doctorow? [22:43] http://www.explainxkcd.com/2011/11/16/citogenesis/ [22:43] see ya [22:43] we will see tomorrow if it is deleted [22:43] lolololo [22:44] Ouch - you use "archive" as a verb. I can hear the axes grinding already [22:44] (It's a pedantic thing that gets certain people more upset than they should be) [22:45] shaqfu: Yeah, but only traditional archivists and no one listens to them ;) [22:45] Hah, true [22:46] If "archive" isn't a verb, what are you supposed to call it? [22:46] SketchCow: do you have any interest in items that would make up a new dark collection? [22:46] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/archive#Verb [22:48] balrog_: Everyone uses it, but as I said, some people get annoyed [22:48] heh. [22:48] Wyatt: Dunno; "preservation and storage and appraisal and..." [22:48] Which is a bit long for my tastes ;) [22:49] I agree... [22:51] Traditional archivists don't like to admit losing a semantic battle. [22:52] underscor: you can publish the details on your own website / press release, and then cite that [22:53] the key is just to have *something* citeable so that you can tell if everything was made up by random wikipedia editor x or not [22:53] oh nice, that's a long list of citations [22:53] I'm going to cite sources via URL shortners to WebCite entries that are archived Wikipedia pages [22:53] third-person verifiability is the goal [22:53] $10 that nobody checks them [22:53] yipdw: I will stab you. [22:54] If you want to go all-out, you could use that Sham Conference list (the ones that accept *anything*), have a poster presentation [22:54] And cite yourself via that [22:55] sure and then someone can cite a scientific body to the effect that it's a sham conference [22:55] Yeah, but that's a lot of work for a citation [22:58] in the narrow case of an article about your own company, your own website would constitute an acceptable source (although third party is better), now if you put some stuff on your site about quantum chromodynamics and then try to cite that in a physics article it's bad