#archiveteam 2012-06-01,Fri

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00:07 🔗 SketchCow Downloaded: 2421 files, 146G in 23h 52m 40s (1.74 MB/s)
00:07 🔗 SketchCow Burp
00:44 🔗 SketchCow http://t.co/DbnlBBFM
00:51 🔗 chronomex joey hess is fucking awesome
00:56 🔗 SketchCow Yes indeedy
00:56 🔗 SketchCow We'll see if my pathetic little mewing changes anything.
01:08 🔗 closure oh, did you mew again?
01:08 🔗 closure oh hell yes
01:13 🔗 closure SketchCow: already have new $250 backer and stuff, thanks
01:15 🔗 chronomex closure: let me give you money for working on git-annex
01:15 🔗 chronomex is there a way I can get a tshirt *and* a usb key?
01:16 🔗 closure chronomex: yes, see the last FAQ question
01:16 🔗 closure it's some special money combo
01:16 🔗 chronomex ok!
01:16 🔗 closure go for the big key. It might just turn out to be 32 gb instead of 16
01:16 🔗 chronomex was intending to
01:17 🔗 chronomex <3
01:17 🔗 closure SketchCow: something like $750 in last 10 minutes
01:17 🔗 chronomex shit
01:17 🔗 * chronomex gets on board
01:18 🔗 chronomex why did you limit the rewards?
01:18 🔗 closure various reasons.. some of them involve me talking to people.. some of them involve batch orders and I want to keep a handle on it. Limits are constantly being adjusted
01:18 🔗 chronomex aye
01:20 🔗 chronomex done
01:32 🔗 Famicoman I put in my $10 a few weeks ago
01:32 🔗 Famicoman err days
01:32 🔗 closure it only feels like weeks to me
01:49 🔗 undersco2 alard: That is SO COOL
01:49 🔗 undersco2 Like, really. Absolutely fantastic.
01:49 🔗 undersco2 You should do a little write up on how it works, I'd love to learn more about it :)
02:12 🔗 SketchCow VERY carefully deleting Fortunecity original files
02:13 🔗 chronomex why?
02:13 🔗 chronomex are you low on disk or something?
02:13 🔗 SketchCow FOS shouldn't have files
02:13 🔗 SketchCow It should be a waystation, it's not permanent.
02:13 🔗 SketchCow I am carefully making sure the files are in the system, one by one.
02:15 🔗 DFJustin alard's searchamajig would be pretty cool for filename search of cdbbsarchive
02:15 🔗 SketchCow Archive.org wants it
02:15 🔗 SketchCow When we have time, we can discuss making it a default thing for all collections on archive.org.
02:16 🔗 DFJustin punch in "clown.gif" and get 400 hits
02:16 🔗 Coderjoe only 400?
02:18 🔗 undersco2 that would be pretty awesome to check a box and have a "index all files in this collection" thing
02:19 🔗 undersco2 http://ia601202.us.archive.org/3/items/test-memac-index-test/tabblo-zip.html the preview images are a nice touch
02:19 🔗 DFJustin for a lot of collections it wouldn't really make sense
02:20 🔗 undersco2 right, I mean, make it optional
02:20 🔗 DFJustin yeah
02:20 🔗 undersco2 now we need to implement it for the flv files in the youporn.com warcs
02:20 🔗 undersco2 :D
02:20 🔗 DFJustin :D
02:33 🔗 Famicoman I wish I could find the art of pixelvision dvds
02:47 🔗 SketchCow Fortunecity verified and up.
02:51 🔗 undersco2 \o/
02:53 🔗 SketchCow And memac is slowing the fuck down.
03:01 🔗 SketchCow So, when we do a kickstarter for archiveteam, donations that end up with archive.org are tax-deductible
03:01 🔗 SketchCow So people who donate will get letters thanking them
03:02 🔗 winr4r so what will the be kickstarter be funding?
03:04 🔗 SketchCow Good question.
03:07 🔗 winr4r seagate should donate, they'd get it back quickly enough
03:08 🔗 su_ I found a 2TB hard drive on newegg for $120
03:08 🔗 su_ i think you can get an extra $10 off of that, not entirely sure though
03:10 🔗 su_ woah, come to think of it, theres a few that're $120 on newegg... weird. did taiwan have an anti-hurricane? :P
03:16 🔗 closure http://edwardbetts.com/price_per_tb/internal_hdd/ best money is 3 tb now
03:16 🔗 closure otoh, if you're not filling up 3 tb in the next say, year, a 2 tb may be a better choice really..
03:16 🔗 su_ yeah, but.. WD Green..
03:16 🔗 su_ Green = power saver > performance
03:18 🔗 undersco2 production is just slowly picking u
03:18 🔗 undersco2 p
03:18 🔗 undersco2 Still not where it was before hand
03:18 🔗 su_ what was the prices beforehand
03:18 🔗 su_ were they lower?
03:18 🔗 su_ say, shouldn't we be talking in -bs ..
03:19 🔗 closure lol, lookat 1st item on http://edwardbetts.com/price_per_tb/external_hdd/
03:19 🔗 su_ ya i saw lol
03:20 🔗 closure external is still cheaper for real tho
03:20 🔗 su_ that doesnt make sense
03:21 🔗 su_ you pay more for a case, when obviously theres just a drive in there thats on the internal HDD list, lol
03:21 🔗 su_ err, pay less with a case*
03:21 🔗 su_ Pros: Opened it up and inside is a nice Seagate Barracuda ST3000DM001 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive.
03:22 🔗 su_ Cons: The external case clips will break when you open it.
03:22 🔗 su_ ghaha
03:23 🔗 Coderjoe some externals have the USB/esata/firewire interface right on the drive
03:24 🔗 su_ but i dont see the logic in why seagate made the external cheaper
03:25 🔗 DFJustin more demand for externals
03:25 🔗 winr4r i believe that was a fluke of inventory
03:25 🔗 winr4r in before offtopic siren
03:31 🔗 su_ [20:20:03] <su_> say, shouldn't we be talking in -bs ..
04:09 🔗 SketchCow I couldn't take it.
04:09 🔗 SketchCow Forgive me, whatever it is that you pray to that I'll pretend I respect
04:09 🔗 SketchCow He reminds me so much of that kid that ruined a swath of geocities.
04:15 🔗 NovaKing wait, someone did that?
04:17 🔗 SketchCow Goodness, look who comes out of the darkness.
04:17 🔗 SketchCow Hellloooooooooooooooo
04:18 🔗 SketchCow Yes, a young kid got involved in the geocities grab, did a TON of grabs, and fucked up the timestamps, the parsing, and the capitalization. By the time we tried to make up for what he'd done wrong, he'd been banned from here eternally and had sniffed how HARD he had worked, of course ignoring all our information on the best way to grab things.
04:18 🔗 SketchCow Archiveteam Warrior, of course, prevents this from happening again.
04:18 🔗 LordNlptp hmm i did some geocities mirroring independent of archiveteam back when
04:18 🔗 LordNlptp using wget -m -np -p
04:19 🔗 LordNlptp which is probably NOT to the proper standards
04:19 🔗 LordNlptp i still have the stuff
04:19 🔗 SketchCow Well, it was a bit of amess, that project.
04:19 🔗 SketchCow I'd love a copy.
04:19 🔗 SketchCow How big?
04:19 🔗 LordNlptp lemme check
04:19 🔗 LordNlptp does tar properly preserve capitals and timestamps?
04:19 🔗 SketchCow Yes
04:19 🔗 LordNlptp ok
04:19 🔗 SketchCow It's the filesystem that's important
04:19 🔗 SketchCow He was doing some crazy thing.
04:20 🔗 SketchCow It was now nearly 3 years ago, I've forgotten.
04:20 🔗 SketchCow Again, we engineered out of it.
04:20 🔗 LordNlptp onesec gotta sftp to my other box
04:21 🔗 LordNlptp ... ok i'm stupid, no i don't need to. well, i do to preserve timestamps but i can calc size from the backup
04:21 🔗 LordNlptp though i'll need to re-tar the original to preserve stuff
04:22 🔗 closure heh, I remember that kid..
04:24 🔗 LordNlptp gah i'm afraid i already f***ed stuff up
04:24 🔗 LordNlptp but let me verify
04:24 🔗 NovaKing damn, that sucks (about the batch of geocities)
04:24 🔗 NovaKing and yeah, sorry been mia
04:25 🔗 NovaKing insanely busy in my department
04:25 🔗 * undersco2 waits for su to notice and complain in #archiveteam-bs
04:26 🔗 SketchCow I was under the impression you were leaving us after whatever project it was.
04:26 🔗 undersco2 SketchCow: Was he like my age?
04:26 🔗 undersco2 :D
04:26 🔗 NovaKing nah
04:26 🔗 LordNlptp 3 external hard drives to check
04:26 🔗 NovaKing didn't plan on leaving
04:26 🔗 LordNlptp 3 MORE i should say
04:26 🔗 NovaKing just have to focus priorities (i know archiving is a high priority)
04:26 🔗 SketchCow You made some amount of noise about something.
04:27 🔗 * SketchCow is now shoving 20gb of magazines in.
04:27 🔗 SketchCow Then they go dark.
04:27 🔗 SketchCow But I'm cleaning out FOS.
04:27 🔗 SketchCow Since I just yanked in 2tb of other data.
04:29 🔗 undersco2 that's a lot of magazines
04:30 🔗 undersco2 SketchCow: do you plan on making a diy bookscanner for all your infocube magazines at some point? (like, waaaaay down the road. Just curious)
04:30 🔗 SketchCow Why do you ask questions like this.
04:31 🔗 SketchCow Let's see, there's two possible answers.
04:31 🔗 SketchCow Yes. No.
04:31 🔗 SketchCow If I say yes, what happens? And if I say no, what happens?
04:37 🔗 SketchCow Oh yeah, DELICIOUS cranky
04:37 🔗 SketchCow It's getting mentioned on boingboing
04:37 🔗 SketchCow Fucking hate boingboing
04:38 🔗 SketchCow And as on cue, the comments at the bottom are just a trash-rific snobfest.
04:38 🔗 SketchCow "Poor speaker" "boring" "Oh god, video"
04:48 🔗 SketchCow Anyway, tomorrow I find out details about the use of this building for ArchiveTeamCon II
05:32 🔗 chronomex 21:10:33 <@SketchCow> He reminds me so much of that kid that ruined a swath of geocities.
05:32 🔗 chronomex that was a disaster
05:32 🔗 chronomex don't remind me
05:48 🔗 undersco2 SketchCow: I dunno, I was hoping you'd say yes or no and then elaborate on why
05:52 🔗 Aranje oh, jonas
05:53 🔗 Aranje He ended up on my skype list for some horrid reason
07:28 🔗 SketchCow JONAS
07:29 🔗 * SketchCow screams and runs into the night
07:29 🔗 * ersi sounds the alarm
08:10 🔗 Schbirid i dont get git annex
08:10 🔗 Schbirid does it track changes of those files?
08:10 🔗 Schbirid does it work like normal git for textfiles?
08:10 🔗 Schbirid track changes as in let me see a diff, let me revert etc
08:23 🔗 chronomex it tracks the sha1 of big files, and makes it so not every clone has to have a copy of everything
08:23 🔗 chronomex most of what it does falls out of these two attributes
09:11 🔗 alard http://matkelly.com/warcreate/ http://www.cs.odu.edu/~mkelly/papers/2012_jcdl_warcreate.pdf
10:26 🔗 ersi alard: awesome
10:29 🔗 alard I'm not sure how well it works. (There are several warc-writing functions in that extension.)
10:29 🔗 alard Some of them seem to be reusing the same hard-coded GUIDs, as well as the author's name and IP address.
10:45 🔗 alard Nah, the WARCreate extension: cool idea, but doesn't really work.
10:50 🔗 Schbirid :(
10:59 🔗 ersi alard: Send him a few pointers :)
13:51 🔗 ersi http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/06/three-things-to-back-up-before-mobileme-goes-dark-on-june-30/
14:34 🔗 SketchCow Good article.
15:05 🔗 LordNlptp SketchCow: ok i found ONE site i had archived from geocities but i know i have archives of much more than that
15:06 🔗 LordNlptp datestamps are a little screwed on this one though
15:06 🔗 LordNlptp lemme tar it up
15:08 🔗 LordNlptp yeah datestamps and username are destroyed, i don't think i wgetted this with -p, this site was done much earlier than the others
15:09 🔗 SketchCow Tar it up, we set it aside in the collection
15:11 🔗 LordNlptp done and emailed
15:12 🔗 LordNlptp its possible someone else archived the same site and presrved timestamps
15:13 🔗 LordNlptp "please review our attachment guidelines" - wtf
15:14 🔗 LordNlptp one sec, lemme rename the file extension or something
15:15 🔗 LordNlptp resent
15:16 🔗 LordNlptp looks like it went thru that time, i think
15:19 🔗 LordNlptp YES found the big archive
15:19 🔗 LordNlptp tarring it up
15:20 🔗 LordNlptp its 480mb uncompressed
15:26 🔗 LordNlptp packing into a tar
15:35 🔗 LordNlptp hmm adding in some parts of geocities i had in different directories its 516mb
15:35 🔗 LordNlptp i can't email that or even upload it to sendspace; is there somewhere i can sftp that to?
15:53 🔗 SketchCow Give me a tad.
15:53 🔗 SketchCow Can you rsync?
15:59 🔗 SketchCow Script is now combining all our Tabblo.com items into one big directory - then follows the bunching up into .tars and the uploads.
16:22 🔗 LordNlptp SketchCow: rsync? probably
16:22 🔗 LordNlptp may need some instructions though
16:22 🔗 LordNlptp since i've never done it befoe
16:49 🔗 balrog_ LordNlptp: rsync is pretty easy; do you have the build for cygwin?
17:05 🔗 LordNlptp probably
17:47 🔗 SketchCow Greets from the archive.
17:47 🔗 SketchCow If any of you are in the SF Bay area, come to the archive at noon. Free lunch.
17:48 🔗 SmileyG wish i was :(
17:59 🔗 winr4r i'm missing free food :(
18:24 🔗 DFJustin tanstaafl
18:38 🔗 SketchCow Someday!
18:38 🔗 SketchCow Just made the initial discussions for ArchiveTeamCon II
18:54 🔗 ersi LET ME SEE YOUR WARFACE
18:59 🔗 SketchCow Who in here would come to SF in January for ArchiveTeamCon!
19:00 🔗 ersi Fuck, that's gonna rip me a new one just starting planning it
19:02 🔗 winr4r aw, wish i could
19:04 🔗 yipdw I'd like to go
19:04 🔗 yipdw depends on exactly when in January
19:04 🔗 SketchCow winr4r: What would stop you?
19:05 🔗 ersi I bet the douchebags at the border would stop me
19:11 🔗 DFJustin I would probably come
19:11 🔗 winr4r SketchCow: being a very long way from the US, me living on as little money as possible, probably not getting into the US again thanks to the last time i tried it
19:13 🔗 winr4r and the fact i get to meet you in september which would be my meeting-jason-IRL-fix forever ;D
19:18 🔗 ersi I'd be more on it if ArchiveTeamCon would be held in Europe or somewhere else than the US, honestly
19:18 🔗 mistym ersi: Where are you?
19:19 🔗 mistym ArchiveTeamCon sounds amazing. I'd go if it turns out I'm able!
19:20 🔗 ersi Sweden
19:33 🔗 bsmith093 Nemo_bis: whats the syntax for the wiki batch downloader? and will it seesaw?
20:07 🔗 SketchCow I would hope that someone in Europe would be more interested in attending a European con than an american con.
22:47 🔗 SketchCow I wouldn't say the $20,000 is assured, closure - but we're closer.

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