#archiveteam 2012-07-03,Tue

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00:20 πŸ”— dashcloud whoa- reCaptcha on archiveteam wiki- I feel a meme coming on here
01:04 πŸ”— dashcloud so is there a spot to put all the files that can't be read, or is someone collecting them now? I'm aware of the massive multimedia file archives, but not so much for other file types
15:08 πŸ”— sankin1 " Attention: This site will cease operations after August 31, 2012. Please make sure to download and save any files you wish to keep before that date. "
15:08 πŸ”— sankin1 hey, are there any plans to archive this? https://good.net/dl/bd/
15:08 πŸ”— Schbirid someone asked about it, i suggested contacting the owner, no idea what happened afterwards
15:09 πŸ”— SketchCow I grabbed a copy.
15:09 πŸ”— SketchCow I've been integrating the data into archive.org as hackercon stuff
15:09 πŸ”— Schbirid there is much more at good.net than that dir
15:09 πŸ”— SketchCow Yes
15:09 πŸ”— SketchCow But that's what I wanted to grab.
15:09 πŸ”— SketchCow It's quite a bit in there.
15:10 πŸ”— sankin1 gotcha, just noticed the warning and thought I'd mention it - I should've known someone was on it :)
15:13 πŸ”— Schbirid never assume that!
15:17 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah, we get blindsided often.
15:17 πŸ”— SketchCow Lot of shit dyin'
16:34 πŸ”— Zebranky_ SketchCow: underscor: :D
16:34 πŸ”— Zebranky The con went amazingly well, even with a goddamn fire evacuation.
16:35 πŸ”— mistym Fire evacuation at a con sounds... hazardous
16:44 πŸ”— Zebranky It went perfectly.
17:05 πŸ”— underscor Zebranky: Did everyone canter out?
17:05 πŸ”— underscor :D
17:06 πŸ”— chronomex ...
17:13 πŸ”— Zebranky I, um... was actually asleep for it >.>
17:14 πŸ”— Zebranky Woke up to the vice chair calling me. "Andrew, where the hell are you? A light just caught on fire and the venue needs to speak with you."
17:14 πŸ”— underscor slacker chair
17:14 πŸ”— underscor :D
17:14 πŸ”— underscor Was is spontaneous or due to stupidity?
17:15 πŸ”— underscor (attendee stupidity)
17:19 πŸ”— Zebranky Spontaneous.
17:33 πŸ”— chronomex it was high up in the air
17:33 πŸ”— chronomex google showed me
17:33 πŸ”— chronomex woop woop woop off-topic siren
17:38 πŸ”— Coderjoe < underscor> I can't believe people are that dumb
17:38 πŸ”— Coderjoe I can
17:41 πŸ”— Coderjoe yeah, the only problem with -bs is getting people to join there
17:43 πŸ”— underscor does #archiveteam have an auto-invite-on-join mode?
17:43 πŸ”— underscor er
17:44 πŸ”— underscor s/#archiveteam/efnet/
17:44 πŸ”— Coderjoe doubt it
18:26 πŸ”— chronomex nope
19:04 πŸ”— mistym Anyone able to build wget from git? Seems to have broken, think it might be gnulib.
19:05 πŸ”— mistym Not sure if it's just OS X.
19:10 πŸ”— alard mistym: No, can't build.
19:10 πŸ”— alard make[2]: Entering directory `/home/gijs/archive/wget-t/po'
19:10 πŸ”— alard make[2]: *** No rule to make target `Makevars', needed by `Makefile'. Stop
19:10 πŸ”— mistym alard: OK, exact same problem I'm seeing.
19:11 πŸ”— alard I did see that message recently, though. There's a message on the wget mailing list.
19:13 πŸ”— mistym Yeah, saw it was another Mac user - part of what made me wonder if there was a Mac specific bug.
19:13 πŸ”— alard Ubuntu as well, apparently.
19:14 πŸ”— mistym Stepping back a few commits in gnulib to see if I can see where this came up - there hasn't been a commit in wget for a couple of weeks so I'm assuming the problem comes from there.
19:40 πŸ”— balrog spam issues on the wiki :[
19:42 πŸ”— mistym Is it at least funny spam? :(
19:42 πŸ”— mistym Aha. Tracked it down. It is a gnulib bug.
19:45 πŸ”— SketchCow Hurrah! Library nerds showing up on my
19:45 πŸ”— SketchCow "Just Solve It" project.
19:45 πŸ”— mistym library_nerds++
19:47 πŸ”— underscor yay
19:49 πŸ”— balrog mistym: no, it's annoying spam
19:49 πŸ”— balrog SketchCow: O_O where?
19:53 πŸ”— SketchCow My ascii blog.
19:55 πŸ”— balrog Dag Ågren ... I've had some correspondence with him
19:56 πŸ”— balrog among other things, he wrote a FOSS RAR v3 extractor :)
19:58 πŸ”— DFJustin yeah I've been pestering him with unarchiver bugs
19:59 πŸ”— balrog DFJustin: related to which formats?
19:59 πŸ”— balrog SketchCow: is there a list yet?
19:59 πŸ”— balrog would be nice if we could start adding to it
19:59 πŸ”— balrog (list of formats)
19:59 πŸ”— SketchCow Got some other stuff to work on with it before we go that far.
19:59 πŸ”— balrog I can think of quite a few.
19:59 πŸ”— balrog ok
19:59 πŸ”— DFJustin didn't realize he was WAHa.06x36 until yesterday
20:00 πŸ”— balrog disk image formats, which I'd consider rather critical
20:00 πŸ”— balrog ohh? where does he use that name?
20:05 πŸ”— DFJustin his site seems to have shat a brick but http://web.archive.org/web/20101108095125/http://wakaba.c3.cx/s/web/wakaba_kareha
20:07 πŸ”— DFJustin re: which formats, https://code.google.com/p/theunarchiver/issues/list?can=1&q=reporter%3Adopefishjustin
20:19 πŸ”— kennethre SketchCow: really enjoying your Super 64 preso
20:20 πŸ”— DFJustin yeah I actually just rebought mario 64 because of watching that, sold mine years ago
20:25 πŸ”— Coderjoe hmm
20:25 πŸ”— Coderjoe somewhere I have a document that mostly describes the WSR88D radar data file format
20:26 πŸ”— Coderjoe (dammit, NWS, you're a government agency. why is it such a pain in the ass to locate documentation within your perview?)
20:28 πŸ”— Coderjoe it might be had instead of have, since I don't know what I did with it, and it might be on the drive that died at home
20:34 πŸ”— mistym alard: Thanks for your help earlier - reported the bug to the gnulib and wget lists
20:35 πŸ”— mistym ...and apparently as I was doing so, someone actually submmitted a patch for the very bug to the gnulib list. Go figure!
21:53 πŸ”— arrith1 http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/03/google-shutdowns-continue-igoogle-google-video-google-mini-others-are-killed/
21:53 πŸ”— arrith1 posted 2 hrs ago
21:54 πŸ”— arrith1 did google end up automatically migrating all Google Video stuff to Youtube? or did they just put closing Google Video on hold while continuing that line of "we'll help users migrate their videos"?
21:55 πŸ”— arrith1 since if it hasn't automatically been migrated, then stuff will get lost
21:56 πŸ”— chronomex 1) they haven't migrated, but they've made a halfhearted effort to convince people to migrate
21:56 πŸ”— chronomex 2) we got it all years ago
21:56 πŸ”— chronomex so fuck em
21:57 πŸ”— Coderjoe that was only a little over a year ago, wasn't it?
21:58 πŸ”— underscor time flies when you're archiving stuff
21:58 πŸ”— Coderjoe and did we actually finish, or did we just back off when they said they'd migrate?
21:58 πŸ”— underscor it was last week before easter
21:58 πŸ”— underscor we finished, iirc
22:00 πŸ”— Coderjoe but what happened to the data?
22:02 πŸ”— DFJustin I thought we backed off, the full amount of data would have been huge as I recall
22:02 πŸ”— Coderjoe that was my recollection as well
22:05 πŸ”— chronomex huge by 2009 standards ;)
22:06 πŸ”— DFJustin yes it wasn't mobileme huge
22:06 πŸ”— chronomex http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Google_video
22:07 πŸ”— kennethre is there something I should throw some heroku boxes at now that mobileme's done?
22:08 πŸ”— chronomex urlteam! heh
22:08 πŸ”— arrith1 chronomex: we're sure we got it *all* years ago?
22:08 πŸ”— chronomex wrong, I was mistaken
22:08 πŸ”— arrith1 maybe run a 'verify' sweep or something
22:08 πŸ”— chronomex about half, according to the wiki
22:08 πŸ”— arrith1 ah
22:09 πŸ”— DFJustin nice thing is there haven't been any new uploads since then, and I would bet no site changes
22:09 πŸ”— chronomex our wiki, which I believe is on the internet which you have access to
22:09 πŸ”— arrith1 yeah i read 'on track to gwt it all', but that doesn't sound like all
22:09 πŸ”— arrith1 chronomex: yes i've heard of this internet, been meaning to try it
22:10 πŸ”— arrith1 DFJustin: yeah hmm. i'd think that would make verifying existing downloads a lot easier
22:10 πŸ”— DFJustin so probably a few sprinkles of fairy dust from alard and we can inhale the rest lickety-split
22:10 πŸ”— dashcloud on the format problem wiki page, wotsit.org is listed as broken- I just went there and the homepage loaded- so what's actually broken?
22:11 πŸ”— chronomex dashcloud: the downloads of individual documentations
22:11 πŸ”— chronomex the actual important part :|
22:11 πŸ”— Coderjoe one I tried appeared to work
22:11 πŸ”— SketchCow -----------------------------
22:11 πŸ”— SketchCow Google Video stopped taking uploads in May 2009. Later this summer we.ll be moving the remaining hosted content to YouTube. Google Video users have until August 20 to migrate, delete or download their content. We.ll then move all remaining Google Video content to YouTube as private videos that users can access in the YouTube video manager. For more details, please see our post on the YouTube blog.
22:11 πŸ”— SketchCow -----------------------------
22:11 πŸ”— chronomex perhaps it's anything that's not cached, I suppose ... their asp backend seems brokenish
22:11 πŸ”— SketchCow See that? We did that.
22:12 πŸ”— chronomex wonder why they chose to make public videos private
22:12 πŸ”— DFJustin oh sweet
22:12 πŸ”— SketchCow Because of terms of service.
22:12 πŸ”— DFJustin er wait private fuck
22:12 πŸ”— SketchCow Unless they can get you to sign to the new one, they will make it private until you do.
22:13 πŸ”— arrith1 they say in that message 'we.ll be moving the remaining hosted content to YouTube' but in the latest thing today i'm not sure they say they've moved stuff, but just encouraged users to migrate their videos
22:13 πŸ”— DFJustin I think it's a safe bet most people that haven't migrated by now are awol and we still need to archive
22:13 πŸ”— chronomex ah
22:13 πŸ”— SketchCow archive.org's been doing it.
22:13 πŸ”— SketchCow I'll check with them
22:13 πŸ”— arrith1 ah, private. so it does get migrated
22:13 πŸ”— dashcloud good news everybody- wotsit.org is only HALF broken
22:13 πŸ”— arrith1 SketchCow: that's good to hear
22:13 πŸ”— SketchCow http://gigaom.com/2012/07/03/google-video-igoogle-and-others-closing-for-good/
22:14 πŸ”— dashcloud if you stop the page load before it tries to pop up the download window, you can use the 2nd link (the one marked if you have problems with the download, click here)
22:15 πŸ”— SketchCow http://archive.org/details/hackercons-notacon-2007-brickipedia
22:15 πŸ”— chronomex hm, ok, the other day that page was redirecting to a 500 error
22:16 πŸ”— dashcloud here's a sample link: http://wotsit.org/getfile.asp?file=amff&sc=394643401- you should get amff.zip
22:16 πŸ”— chronomex ok
22:17 πŸ”— chronomex getfile.asp was hosed yesterday.
22:17 πŸ”— chronomex I put wotsit up there because I remembered finding it super useful when I was in highschool
22:17 πŸ”— dashcloud but you can only do that if you stop the page before it tries to bring up the regular download link- otherwise you are hosed
22:17 πŸ”— chronomex ah
22:18 πŸ”— chronomex I didn't put that much effort into it
22:18 πŸ”— Coderjoe again, the automatic download seemed to work for me earlier
22:23 πŸ”— underscor so archive.org has a new uploader thing we're banging on
22:23 πŸ”— underscor and brewster wants me to get some people to give it a whirl
22:23 πŸ”— underscor It's an html5 front end to the s3 api and is a lot more usable than our current thing
22:23 πŸ”— underscor so try out http://archive.org/upload
22:23 πŸ”— chronomex neato
22:24 πŸ”— underscor Do note, though, that Firefox will silently corrupt files >4GB
22:24 πŸ”— balrog bug in firefox? :(
22:24 πŸ”— underscor so either use smaller files or chrome
22:24 πŸ”— underscor balrog: yep
22:24 πŸ”— underscor been a bug since 2003
22:24 πŸ”— balrog has it been reported?
22:24 πŸ”— underscor still not fixed
22:24 πŸ”— balrog whattt
22:24 πŸ”— balrog what's the bug id?
22:24 πŸ”— chronomex 4G is huuuuuge why would anyone want to upload things that big
22:25 πŸ”— underscor [12:22:27 PDT] rajamaphone: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215450
22:25 πŸ”— underscor here is the bug report from 2003
22:25 πŸ”— underscor er, fucking skype
22:25 πŸ”— underscor anyway
22:25 πŸ”— underscor still status:new
22:29 πŸ”— arrith1 i don't know if the download in question requires cookies or not but copying and pasting it to "wget" or "curl -O" might work
22:30 πŸ”— arrith1 i do that in a screen session. verifying the integrity of http downloads without hashes is always tricky though
22:30 πŸ”— arrith1 oh upload
22:31 πŸ”— arrith1 chronomex: youtube for a long time has had their own custom java upload utility thing. i think more to make resumeable uploads possible, but maybe also to deal with stuff like that firefox bug
22:31 πŸ”— DFJustin there are so many ancient mozilla bugs in basic functionality that they give no shits about fixing, it's not even funny anymore
22:32 πŸ”— Coderjoe html5 uploads should allow resuming as well, I think, at least if the server supports range requests or the like
22:42 πŸ”— arrith1 they were working on this big electrolysis effort to split parts of the existing codebase into multiple processes, but that got put on hold and i think the latest thing is this effort to write a replacement for gecko, their rendering engine. which might end up touching other areas and fixing longstanding bugs
22:43 πŸ”— DFJustin I mean stuff like yanking out the ethernet cable makes your downloads all succeed at 50% with no resume ability https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=237623
22:43 πŸ”— arrith1 oh wait, "according to the claims of Mozilla?s engineers, the Servo is not aimed to replace Gecko" http://browserfame.com/746/mozilla-servo-browser-engine
22:44 πŸ”— arrith1 DFJustin: that is an odd sounding bug
22:44 πŸ”— yipdw well, it's a good thing that I only wanted half of all my downloads to begin with
22:45 πŸ”— underscor DFJustin: wow that's old :D
22:45 πŸ”— underscor I would like to confirm that I have the same problem.
22:45 πŸ”— underscor My setup is Windows98SE, Firefox 0.9.1... P200 56MB ram...
22:45 πŸ”— underscor I have the download manager enabled (to appear).
22:47 πŸ”— arrith1 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=237623#c104 makes a good point, about how fx does have the information it needs. then the comment after about how it could check for FTP downloads
22:49 πŸ”— arrith1 loving http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Just_Solve_the_Problem_2012 btw
22:50 πŸ”— arrith1 needs a good catchy name though. i'm not sure how to have a good name but still keep it really universal for any kind of information storage or fixed form
22:50 πŸ”— DFJustin that's basically my point, it's not hairy gecko stuff, it's "get a mozilla engineer on it for an hour or two" stuff but nope, let's write a new engine
22:51 πŸ”— DFJustin </rant>
22:51 πŸ”— dashcloud make some noise about it now- especially if you can connect it to something Mozilla cares about currently
22:52 πŸ”— dashcloud they've started caring about problems people thought they had written off- look at Memshrink and Project Snappy
22:52 πŸ”— arrith1 that one dev keeps popping up in the bug, at one point saying "like to get this done by FF4" heh
22:52 πŸ”— * Coderjoe nudges towards -bs
22:53 πŸ”— DFJustin it's on the lame-network whiteboard thing now which is why I remember it, but there are others
23:49 πŸ”— Famicoman So I tried migrating videos over from google video
23:50 πŸ”— Famicoman got "upload failed - sorry about that" for each one
23:51 πŸ”— chronomex awesome
23:52 πŸ”— chronomex one of my google videos was downloaded and put into youtube by someone else, so I can't move it over

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