#archiveteam 2012-08-09,Thu

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00:06 🔗 Nemo_bis dashcloud: fork the state?
00:13 🔗 dashcloud definitely
09:56 🔗 ersi Nice, wget-1.14 released!
09:56 🔗 ersi (ie with WARC support!)
10:45 🔗 alard For those of you who want to try the new warrior: I've just added Tumblr as an example/testing project.
10:45 🔗 alard Download and open the warrior-v2 appliance ( http://archive.org/details/archiveteam-warrior ), start it, then go to http://localhost:8001/
10:46 🔗 alard If you select the "ArchiveTeam's Choice" project the warrior will start archiving Tumblr, but will switch to a more urgent project when it appears.
10:47 🔗 C-Keen_ archiveteam-warrior-v2-20120707.ova ?
10:47 🔗 alard Yes.
10:48 🔗 alard (This is the first version of the v2 warrior that actually does something, so there may be bugs. That's what this test project is for.)
10:49 🔗 * C-Keen_ downloads
11:22 🔗 C-Keen alard: there has been an error about unable to resolve the github url on startup, are there log files I can look at in the warrior home somewhere so I can tell you whether it's a real issue?
11:38 🔗 alard C-Keen: That's normal. Sometimes it takes a few seconds before the network works. The warrior boot script will wait for a few seconds and try Github again, so if it works there's no problem.
11:39 🔗 alard (There are no real log files for the warrior scripts.)
11:39 🔗 C-Keen how big is one tumbler item?
11:40 🔗 C-Keen a bit more feedback on progress on the UI would be helpful
11:40 🔗 alard That's a bit of a downside: these Tumblr blogs can take quite some time to download. It depends on the size of the blog.
11:41 🔗 alard Yes. It's quiet for a long time. The feedback should come from Wget, since it's just one big Wget run.
11:42 🔗 C-Keen also for the feature list: a way to "pause" the warrior gracefully, freeing the connection would be cool
11:43 🔗 alard As an alternative to "Shut down".
11:43 🔗 C-Keen in addition to shutdown maybe, shutdown currently waits until the wget jobs are done
11:44 🔗 alard Ah, you mean "pause right now", then resume the current item later?
11:44 🔗 C-Keen yep
11:45 🔗 alard That's difficult to do.
11:45 🔗 alard But I do want to add a way to limit the bandwidth, so you could just set it to 10kB/s, or something.
11:46 🔗 C-Keen that would be also nice
11:46 🔗 C-Keen alard: or even limit the bandwith on a timely basis (just download x gig / month max)
12:11 🔗 C-Keen alard: something is odd here: The jobs never seem to finish, the directories in the data dir grow, then shrink and grow again, so it looks like it is redoing the same download over and over again. Maybe I am missing something here...
12:11 🔗 C-Keen alard: my warrior currently downloads theuniverseonmywall.tumblr.com which is not big at all
12:11 🔗 C-Keen and it never gets done
12:11 🔗 C-Keen for almost an hour now
12:12 🔗 SmileyG hmmmm circular link maybe :s
12:15 🔗 C-Keen logging the wget output somewhere would help to determine that
12:56 🔗 alard C-Keen: If it's still working, you can check the wget.log.
12:57 🔗 alard Go to your warrior console, press Alt+F3 to get to the login prompt. Log in with root / archiveteam, then go to /home/warrior/projects/tumblr. The wget.log is in the data directory.
13:02 🔗 C-Keen no wget.log there
13:06 🔗 alard No, there's something strange going on. On the second console of my warrior there's a Python error about deleting the data directory.
13:06 🔗 alard Have you selected the Tumblr project or the archiveteam project?
13:10 🔗 C-Keen the archivetem project
13:24 🔗 alard I think the installation process is somewhat broken. If you select the auto project it will reinstall the project while it is running, and part of the installation is to rm -rf the data directory.
13:29 🔗 BlueMax ...eeeek
13:30 🔗 C-Keen ah
13:30 🔗 C-Keen that would explain the behaviour I am seeing
16:35 🔗 alard I think the warrior problem is fixed now. (Reboot to get the latest version.) I've also selected some smaller Tumblr blogs.
17:00 🔗 balrog_ question: how useful are the microfiche scanning instructions if one does not have access to such a scanner?
17:00 🔗 balrog_ I could use access to such a scanner
17:00 🔗 balrog_ it's possible SketchCow is interested in this batch, though
17:11 🔗 illunatic http://blog.greenpirate.org/laurel-royalty/
17:27 🔗 SketchCow Egad, we need to have the warrior discussion in another channel
17:27 🔗 SketchCow for betatesting
17:32 🔗 balrog_ SketchCow: any comments on this microfiche? I have a few hundred, probably more like a few thousand sheets, with internal DEC documentation, including stuff like DEC microcode source listings
17:32 🔗 balrog_ all of it is "high-density" (many pages per sheet)
17:38 🔗 SketchCow I have some of that too.
17:38 🔗 SketchCow One way or another it should be digitized.
17:38 🔗 SketchCow My kickstarter is live!
17:38 🔗 SketchCow http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/textfiles/the-information-cube-20
17:38 🔗 SketchCow 50% funded in 22 minutes.
17:38 🔗 balrog_ this is important, because one of the MESS guys wants it
17:39 🔗 balrog_ he's implementing these VAX machines in MESS
17:39 🔗 balrog_ I watched the videos on IA about using that fiche scanner ... oh, I wish I had access to one of those
17:39 🔗 balrog_ too bad they cost $60k
17:46 🔗 underscor SketchCow: 70%
17:47 🔗 underscor !
17:47 🔗 DFJustin lol this is the one kickstarter thought wouldn't be funded?
17:47 🔗 emijrp GoldCow.
17:49 🔗 DFJustin jesus it's going up just in the time my window was minimized
17:51 🔗 brayden Damn.. that money is coming in fast.
17:52 🔗 brayden Wow.. I think someone just pledged $100
17:53 🔗 Schbirid quick, promise some revolutionary device that will never be released!
17:53 🔗 SketchCow On android!
17:53 🔗 brayden and garner 8.5 million dollars
17:53 🔗 Schbirid $100 for such a container is a steal though, i should buy one myself!
17:54 🔗 Schbirid wow, same line length
17:54 🔗 brayden Promise a $15 Raspberry Pi like device.
17:54 🔗 SketchCow There was a guy who snagged the $200 for Jeff Atwood, apologized, removed it but kept the $200 pledge.
17:54 🔗 SketchCow I was touched.
17:55 🔗 C-Keen I would like one of those "crystal recorders" from SciFi novels that allow you to storage almost everything in a tiny place and everyone carries one around
17:55 🔗 SketchCow We call it an iPod
17:55 🔗 C-Keen too small
17:56 🔗 SketchCow too.... small?
17:56 🔗 C-Keen a decentralized offline copy of the internet
17:56 🔗 C-Keen in terms of storage capacity
17:56 🔗 brayden Does that include all the pornography?
17:56 🔗 brayden Legal or otherwise?
17:56 🔗 C-Keen who knows, noone managed to review it all
17:57 🔗 SketchCow I love that Kicktraq hasn't noticed my current funding because it's too fast. http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/textfiles/the-information-cube-20/
17:57 🔗 closure SketchCow: so, this is the kickstarter where you end up piloting a information tanker in the great dead spot in the Pacific, right?
17:58 🔗 * closure polishes his katanas
17:59 🔗 underscor aaand, funded!
17:59 🔗 DFJustin efb
17:59 🔗 brayden nice
17:59 🔗 kennethre same :)
17:59 🔗 alard Warrior beta testing in #warrior
18:00 🔗 Ymgve what's warrior
18:01 🔗 alard The ArchiveTeam Warrior is a virtual machine that you can run to archive things.
18:01 🔗 Ymgve cool
18:01 🔗 alard http://archive.org/details/archiveteam-warrior
18:02 🔗 * brayden downloads
18:02 🔗 brayden Download faster!!!!
18:02 🔗 brayden 4 minutes to download
18:02 🔗 brayden Then will import into VMware Workstation
18:02 🔗 Ymgve so it's basically a client that lets you donate bandwidth and IPs to AT and you don't have to do anything?
18:03 🔗 brayden Sounds perfect.
18:03 🔗 brayden Hopefully it is just that
18:03 🔗 Ymgve I wonder how it will fare on my years-old virtualbox install
18:03 🔗 brayden Is yours so old that it refers to itself as "Sun Virtualbox"?
18:03 🔗 emijrp ova v1 or v2?
18:04 🔗 Ymgve but do you have to keep it running constantly for it to be of any use?
18:04 🔗 Ymgve or can you activate it for a few hours at a time
18:04 🔗 brayden That'd be ideal
18:05 🔗 brayden ie.. keeping it up all the time lol
18:05 🔗 brayden neearrrlyyy done
18:05 🔗 brayden done
18:05 🔗 SketchCow Rebooting my warrior to check it out
18:05 🔗 Ymgve my always-on computer isn't really powerful tho, so no VM there
18:05 🔗 brayden http://brayden.ur.cx/images/VMware_Workstation_2012-08-10_02-05-40.png :(
18:06 🔗 Ymgve relax, just do it
18:06 🔗 brayden lol
18:07 🔗 brayden yay http://brayden.ur.cx/images/archiveteam-warrior-v1_-_VMware_Workstation_2012-08-10_02-06-53.png
18:07 🔗 Ymgve well that's boring
18:07 🔗 brayden Just some Debian image that has been customised
18:07 🔗 brayden Debian 6
18:08 🔗 Ymgve was thinking more about the "no current projects" part
18:08 🔗 emijrp nothing to do? NOTHING!?
18:08 🔗 brayden Yeah. Especially too when you click ok it just seems to freeze and I can't do anything :(
18:08 🔗 brayden oh good
18:08 🔗 brayden ALT+F4 worked lol;
18:08 🔗 brayden * lol
18:08 🔗 brayden and it gives instructions.. like tells me what the root password is
18:09 🔗 Ymgve oh, cool
18:09 🔗 Ymgve it has network access
18:09 🔗 brayden oh nice.. there's a script in /root/ to pretty much destroy the system
18:09 🔗 Ymgve there were some dire warnings just before the selection screen popped up
18:09 🔗 brayden Yeah
18:10 🔗 brayden DNS resolution failed on some of them it seems
18:10 🔗 C-Keen -> #warrior
18:10 🔗 brayden whatever!
18:10 🔗 Ymgve something about not being able to contact github
18:10 🔗 Ymgve does that matter?
18:10 🔗 SketchCow --------------------------------
18:10 🔗 brayden Probably.
18:10 🔗 SketchCow ARCHIVETEAM WARRIOR DISCUSSION IN #WARRIOR
18:10 🔗 SketchCow --------------------------------
18:19 🔗 brayden Damn.. $2,377. Enough for a kid to help sort through the rubbish!
18:20 🔗 Schbirid and a tutu for said kid
18:21 🔗 C-Keen pinky?
18:22 🔗 godane its 2387 now
18:23 🔗 godane now archiving the information cube 2.0 video
18:23 🔗 godane i'm nuttly pack rat
18:28 🔗 godane holy crap
18:29 🔗 godane jason just got $45 in the last 5 mins
18:31 🔗 Ymgve I find it kinda hilarious that 3TB external drives cost less than 3TB internal drives around here
18:31 🔗 Ymgve I think I have half a dozen power bricks of the same type now
18:33 🔗 godane Ymgve: i got one external 3tb for $150
18:34 🔗 godane its a Western digital drive
18:34 🔗 godane a my book model
18:48 🔗 godane i should have go sdcc 2011 videos before demonid went down
18:49 🔗 godane looks like some people still have full sdcc 2012 video collection
18:57 🔗 nitro2k01 Has Demonoid gone down again
18:57 🔗 nitro2k01 :/
18:58 🔗 nitro2k01 Let's invent AT's torrent mirroring programme
18:58 🔗 nitro2k01 mirror *all* the torrents
18:59 🔗 nitro2k01 What could go wrong?
19:01 🔗 Schbirid the same that happened to demonoid of course
19:02 🔗 balrog_ nitro2k01: the Ukrainian government took it down
19:02 🔗 balrog_ to please the US, of course. that government is horribly corrupt
20:13 🔗 SketchCow hahaha, the archive team tester has already grabbed 5gb
20:29 🔗 ersi fuck yeah
20:29 🔗 SketchCow it is one sexy beast from this side.
23:18 🔗 shaqfu Does anyone know what happened to VMS's library when they went under?
23:19 🔗 balrog_ I don't know, but we have tons of that stuff on paper at least
23:19 🔗 balrog_ and microfiche which is worse
23:19 🔗 balrog_ stuff like VAX microcode source listings
23:19 🔗 balrog_ :/
23:20 🔗 shaqfu balrog_: I think we're talking about different VMSes
23:20 🔗 balrog_ oh yeah
23:20 🔗 balrog_ oops :D
23:20 🔗 shaqfu I'm curious about Video Monitoring Service, and its 30 years of recordings/transcriptions
23:20 🔗 balrog_ ahhhh
23:20 🔗 shaqfu If it's in private hands, or if it was dumpstered
23:21 🔗 balrog_ hmm, c. 7 bankruptcy in 2011
23:21 🔗 shaqfu They could've fire-sold it to raise capital, for all I know, although I suspect it's gone
23:22 🔗 shaqfu And no word from the checksum guy :(
23:22 🔗 balrog_ :(
23:22 🔗 shaqfu Going to try his work address - maybe his domain's defunct
23:26 🔗 mistym Which checksum guy is this?
23:27 🔗 shaqfu mistym: http://therockquarry.com/integrity.htm
23:27 🔗 shaqfu Note how awesome this tool is, and note the lack of any mention of how to get it
23:27 🔗 balrog_ what are you trying to get from him?
23:28 🔗 shaqfu balrog_: Either the .sea, or where to get it
23:29 🔗 shaqfu I wouldn't mind paying for it, if it's still commercially available

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