[00:06] dashcloud: fork the state? [00:13] definitely [09:56] Nice, wget-1.14 released! [09:56] (ie with WARC support!) [10:45] For those of you who want to try the new warrior: I've just added Tumblr as an example/testing project. [10:45] Download and open the warrior-v2 appliance ( http://archive.org/details/archiveteam-warrior ), start it, then go to http://localhost:8001/ [10:46] If you select the "ArchiveTeam's Choice" project the warrior will start archiving Tumblr, but will switch to a more urgent project when it appears. [10:47] archiveteam-warrior-v2-20120707.ova ? [10:47] Yes. [10:48] (This is the first version of the v2 warrior that actually does something, so there may be bugs. That's what this test project is for.) [10:49] * C-Keen_ downloads [11:22] alard: there has been an error about unable to resolve the github url on startup, are there log files I can look at in the warrior home somewhere so I can tell you whether it's a real issue? [11:38] C-Keen: That's normal. Sometimes it takes a few seconds before the network works. The warrior boot script will wait for a few seconds and try Github again, so if it works there's no problem. [11:39] (There are no real log files for the warrior scripts.) [11:39] how big is one tumbler item? [11:40] a bit more feedback on progress on the UI would be helpful [11:40] That's a bit of a downside: these Tumblr blogs can take quite some time to download. It depends on the size of the blog. [11:41] Yes. It's quiet for a long time. The feedback should come from Wget, since it's just one big Wget run. [11:42] also for the feature list: a way to "pause" the warrior gracefully, freeing the connection would be cool [11:43] As an alternative to "Shut down". [11:43] in addition to shutdown maybe, shutdown currently waits until the wget jobs are done [11:44] Ah, you mean "pause right now", then resume the current item later? [11:44] yep [11:45] That's difficult to do. [11:45] But I do want to add a way to limit the bandwidth, so you could just set it to 10kB/s, or something. [11:46] that would be also nice [11:46] alard: or even limit the bandwith on a timely basis (just download x gig / month max) [12:11] alard: something is odd here: The jobs never seem to finish, the directories in the data dir grow, then shrink and grow again, so it looks like it is redoing the same download over and over again. Maybe I am missing something here... [12:11] alard: my warrior currently downloads theuniverseonmywall.tumblr.com which is not big at all [12:11] and it never gets done [12:11] for almost an hour now [12:12] hmmmm circular link maybe :s [12:15] logging the wget output somewhere would help to determine that [12:56] C-Keen: If it's still working, you can check the wget.log. [12:57] Go to your warrior console, press Alt+F3 to get to the login prompt. Log in with root / archiveteam, then go to /home/warrior/projects/tumblr. The wget.log is in the data directory. [13:02] no wget.log there [13:06] No, there's something strange going on. On the second console of my warrior there's a Python error about deleting the data directory. [13:06] Have you selected the Tumblr project or the archiveteam project? [13:10] the archivetem project [13:24] I think the installation process is somewhat broken. If you select the auto project it will reinstall the project while it is running, and part of the installation is to rm -rf the data directory. [13:29] ...eeeek [13:30] ah [13:30] that would explain the behaviour I am seeing [16:35] I think the warrior problem is fixed now. (Reboot to get the latest version.) I've also selected some smaller Tumblr blogs. [17:00] question: how useful are the microfiche scanning instructions if one does not have access to such a scanner? [17:00] I could use access to such a scanner [17:00] it's possible SketchCow is interested in this batch, though [17:11] http://blog.greenpirate.org/laurel-royalty/ [17:27] Egad, we need to have the warrior discussion in another channel [17:27] for betatesting [17:32] SketchCow: any comments on this microfiche? I have a few hundred, probably more like a few thousand sheets, with internal DEC documentation, including stuff like DEC microcode source listings [17:32] all of it is "high-density" (many pages per sheet) [17:38] I have some of that too. [17:38] One way or another it should be digitized. [17:38] My kickstarter is live! [17:38] http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/textfiles/the-information-cube-20 [17:38] 50% funded in 22 minutes. [17:38] this is important, because one of the MESS guys wants it [17:39] he's implementing these VAX machines in MESS [17:39] I watched the videos on IA about using that fiche scanner ... oh, I wish I had access to one of those [17:39] too bad they cost $60k [17:46] SketchCow: 70% [17:47] ! [17:47] lol this is the one kickstarter thought wouldn't be funded? [17:47] GoldCow. [17:49] jesus it's going up just in the time my window was minimized [17:51] Damn.. that money is coming in fast. [17:52] Wow.. I think someone just pledged $100 [17:53] quick, promise some revolutionary device that will never be released! [17:53] On android! [17:53] and garner 8.5 million dollars [17:53] $100 for such a container is a steal though, i should buy one myself! [17:54] wow, same line length [17:54] Promise a $15 Raspberry Pi like device. [17:54] There was a guy who snagged the $200 for Jeff Atwood, apologized, removed it but kept the $200 pledge. [17:54] I was touched. [17:55] I would like one of those "crystal recorders" from SciFi novels that allow you to storage almost everything in a tiny place and everyone carries one around [17:55] We call it an iPod [17:55] too small [17:56] too.... small? [17:56] a decentralized offline copy of the internet [17:56] in terms of storage capacity [17:56] Does that include all the pornography? [17:56] Legal or otherwise? [17:56] who knows, noone managed to review it all [17:57] I love that Kicktraq hasn't noticed my current funding because it's too fast. http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/textfiles/the-information-cube-20/ [17:57] SketchCow: so, this is the kickstarter where you end up piloting a information tanker in the great dead spot in the Pacific, right? [17:58] * closure polishes his katanas [17:59] aaand, funded! [17:59] efb [17:59] nice [17:59] same :) [17:59] Warrior beta testing in #warrior [18:00] what's warrior [18:01] The ArchiveTeam Warrior is a virtual machine that you can run to archive things. [18:01] cool [18:01] http://archive.org/details/archiveteam-warrior [18:02] * brayden downloads [18:02] Download faster!!!! [18:02] 4 minutes to download [18:02] Then will import into VMware Workstation [18:02] so it's basically a client that lets you donate bandwidth and IPs to AT and you don't have to do anything? [18:03] Sounds perfect. [18:03] Hopefully it is just that [18:03] I wonder how it will fare on my years-old virtualbox install [18:03] Is yours so old that it refers to itself as "Sun Virtualbox"? [18:03] ova v1 or v2? [18:04] but do you have to keep it running constantly for it to be of any use? [18:04] or can you activate it for a few hours at a time [18:04] That'd be ideal [18:05] ie.. keeping it up all the time lol [18:05] neearrrlyyy done [18:05] done [18:05] Rebooting my warrior to check it out [18:05] my always-on computer isn't really powerful tho, so no VM there [18:05] http://brayden.ur.cx/images/VMware_Workstation_2012-08-10_02-05-40.png :( [18:06] relax, just do it [18:06] lol [18:07] yay http://brayden.ur.cx/images/archiveteam-warrior-v1_-_VMware_Workstation_2012-08-10_02-06-53.png [18:07] well that's boring [18:07] Just some Debian image that has been customised [18:07] Debian 6 [18:08] was thinking more about the "no current projects" part [18:08] nothing to do? NOTHING!? [18:08] Yeah. Especially too when you click ok it just seems to freeze and I can't do anything :( [18:08] oh good [18:08] ALT+F4 worked lol; [18:08] * lol [18:08] and it gives instructions.. like tells me what the root password is [18:09] oh, cool [18:09] it has network access [18:09] oh nice.. there's a script in /root/ to pretty much destroy the system [18:09] there were some dire warnings just before the selection screen popped up [18:09] Yeah [18:10] DNS resolution failed on some of them it seems [18:10] -> #warrior [18:10] whatever! [18:10] something about not being able to contact github [18:10] does that matter? [18:10] -------------------------------- [18:10] Probably. [18:10] ARCHIVETEAM WARRIOR DISCUSSION IN #WARRIOR [18:10] -------------------------------- [18:19] Damn.. $2,377. Enough for a kid to help sort through the rubbish! [18:20] and a tutu for said kid [18:21] pinky? [18:22] its 2387 now [18:23] now archiving the information cube 2.0 video [18:23] i'm nuttly pack rat [18:28] holy crap [18:29] jason just got $45 in the last 5 mins [18:31] I find it kinda hilarious that 3TB external drives cost less than 3TB internal drives around here [18:31] I think I have half a dozen power bricks of the same type now [18:33] Ymgve: i got one external 3tb for $150 [18:34] its a Western digital drive [18:34] a my book model [18:48] i should have go sdcc 2011 videos before demonid went down [18:49] looks like some people still have full sdcc 2012 video collection [18:57] Has Demonoid gone down again [18:57] :/ [18:58] Let's invent AT's torrent mirroring programme [18:58] mirror *all* the torrents [18:59] What could go wrong? [19:01] the same that happened to demonoid of course [19:02] nitro2k01: the Ukrainian government took it down [19:02] to please the US, of course. that government is horribly corrupt [20:13] hahaha, the archive team tester has already grabbed 5gb [20:29] fuck yeah [20:29] it is one sexy beast from this side. [23:18] Does anyone know what happened to VMS's library when they went under? [23:19] I don't know, but we have tons of that stuff on paper at least [23:19] and microfiche which is worse [23:19] stuff like VAX microcode source listings [23:19] :/ [23:20] balrog_: I think we're talking about different VMSes [23:20] oh yeah [23:20] oops :D [23:20] I'm curious about Video Monitoring Service, and its 30 years of recordings/transcriptions [23:20] ahhhh [23:20] If it's in private hands, or if it was dumpstered [23:21] hmm, c. 7 bankruptcy in 2011 [23:21] They could've fire-sold it to raise capital, for all I know, although I suspect it's gone [23:22] And no word from the checksum guy :( [23:22] :( [23:22] Going to try his work address - maybe his domain's defunct [23:26] Which checksum guy is this? [23:27] mistym: http://therockquarry.com/integrity.htm [23:27] Note how awesome this tool is, and note the lack of any mention of how to get it [23:27] what are you trying to get from him? [23:28] balrog_: Either the .sea, or where to get it [23:29] I wouldn't mind paying for it, if it's still commercially available