#archiveteam 2012-08-13,Mon

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00:44 🔗 godane i hope defcon used headset mics
00:45 🔗 SketchCow ?
01:38 🔗 Coderjoe headset? why not wireless Lavs? or handheld?
02:01 🔗 godane only cause one guy from defcon 19 keeps moving around away from the mic
02:01 🔗 godane sorry for the delay replay
07:14 🔗 SmileyG I wish defcon vids went up faster :(
07:18 🔗 Ymgve this year's defcon you mean?
07:19 🔗 Nintendud I've noticed that most conferences have a huge issue when it comes to timely uploading of videos
07:19 🔗 Nintendud :(
07:20 🔗 Ymgve well in defcon/blackhat's case it's because they're selling the videos and someone has to be a dirty pirate for them to go online
07:42 🔗 SmileyG hmmm ah fair enough
07:42 🔗 SmileyG seems to be so many on youtube I presumed they were just uploaded after a amount of time
07:50 🔗 underscor they had all the conference videos on a media server at defcon this year
07:50 🔗 underscor I didn't have time to download them though because work
07:50 🔗 underscor :(
07:50 🔗 underscor chronomex: Coderjoe closure SmileyG +o?
07:52 🔗 * BlueMax too? :P
07:52 🔗 BlueMax also high underscor
07:52 🔗 BlueMax ...hi
07:52 🔗 underscor I also am hi
07:52 🔗 underscor ...high
07:52 🔗 * underscor percoset for wisdom teeth
07:52 🔗 underscor fuckin' hurts :(
07:52 🔗 underscor getting better though
07:52 🔗 BlueMax I hope you remembered to archive that bitch
07:53 🔗 underscor DefCon stuff?
07:53 🔗 underscor Wasn't time :(
07:53 🔗 underscor SketchCow is a slave driver :D
07:53 🔗 * BlueMax slaps underscor
07:53 🔗 BlueMax YOU SAY NOTHING BAD
07:53 🔗 BlueMax ...about him
07:53 🔗 BlueMax God I feel weird
07:53 🔗 underscor hahahahaha
07:53 🔗 BlueMax If you're driven by SketchCow you make sounds like a Flintstones car and you LIKE IT
07:54 🔗 underscor oh god
07:54 🔗 underscor OH GOD
07:54 🔗 underscor ;w;
07:54 🔗 * underscor rape whistle
07:55 🔗 BlueMax Don't worry, I'm an adult
07:55 🔗 BlueMax Now bend over and make sounds like a Flintstones car
07:56 🔗 BlueMax :D
07:56 🔗 SmileyG hilight me properly in future :P
08:08 🔗 emijrp wut
08:09 🔗 emijrp Documentary about the burning of Jaffna Public Library--a major landmark in Tamil cultural heritage housing more than 97,000 books and irreplaceable palm-leaf manuscripts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT3xxTfpVEU
08:13 🔗 C-Keen underscor: you might add "Warrior discussion in #warrior"
08:13 🔗 underscor C-Keen: thx
08:13 🔗 underscor Didn't think it'd fit
08:14 🔗 underscor efnet has crazy short /topic
08:14 🔗 C-Keen looks good
08:20 🔗 BlueMax jesus crist underscor
08:20 🔗 Nintendud o
08:20 🔗 underscor BlueMax: hm?
08:21 🔗 BlueMax ALL the ops
08:21 🔗 underscor oh
08:34 🔗 SmileyG firesale in #firesale? D:
08:35 🔗 BlueMax everybody must be kicked from firesale!
09:28 🔗 ersi http://imgur.com/a/cggl7 - ArchiveTeam: Save the world! Get the most out of your Sony CD-RW burner
09:34 🔗 C-Keen cute
09:37 🔗 ersi 's from my garage/car cave/storage cave/
09:44 🔗 SmileyG :)
09:55 🔗 Nemo_bis emijrp: you sent the email to me only, is that intended?
09:55 🔗 Nemo_bis I don't have free bandwith right now, maybe tomorrow
09:55 🔗 emijrp yes
09:55 🔗 Nemo_bis ok
14:51 🔗 SketchCow Jason,
14:51 🔗 SketchCow You are my (and my client's) new HERO!!! Check it out: www.shindelltravels.com
14:52 🔗 SketchCow We would have had NO chance of getting any of the site back had it not been for the archive project for MobileMe. Apple simply told us we were out of luck.
14:52 🔗 SketchCow You have made an entire family VERY happy. Happier than you can imagine by giving them back the only photo memories they had left from a whole lot of travel!
14:52 🔗 SketchCow Thank you, thank you, thank you for your time, dedication, and guidance with this.
14:52 🔗 SketchCow shoutout to alard for getting that searcher going so quickly
14:55 🔗 nitro2k01 Congratulations to getting sent a small nugget of gratitude in the middle of all complaints about sucking bandwidth from people
14:56 🔗 C-Keen well, that's heart-warming
14:57 🔗 nitro2k01 Also, I'm noticing on the page that some images are missing (stuill using old mac.com URL)
14:57 🔗 nitro2k01 Are these archived?
14:57 🔗 nitro2k01 For example http://www.mac.com/st/1/sharedassets/1.1/Common/Templates/Travel/About%20Me/dotted_path_1_538x240.png
14:57 🔗 nitro2k01 Ah, shared assets. Well, question still stands.
14:58 🔗 SketchCow No idea.
14:59 🔗 SketchCow I told them we got all we did, but that was it.
14:59 🔗 SketchCow So I think they're happy they have something to rebuild with.
15:00 🔗 C-Keen well I guess some css files for the design (which they didn't do for themselves most likely) is less important than the content they *did* put effort and time in
15:05 🔗 nitro2k01 They're on IA
15:10 🔗 godane SketchCow: i plan on getting starcade for you
15:10 🔗 godane its not on archive.org at all
15:11 🔗 godane 111 episodes of a arcade tv show from 82-84
15:11 🔗 SketchCow I feel like some of these you should have me do.
15:12 🔗 SketchCow But as long as it's one item per episode or one item per issue, I think it's fine.
15:12 🔗 godane i plan on it
15:12 🔗 godane also uploading a commodore 64 training tape
15:13 🔗 godane i got a .mpg version of the rip going around on the net
15:14 🔗 ersi SketchCow: Did ya check out ma stash? Got some real freckin' good irony cover art on one of those CDs
15:15 🔗 SketchCow I'm currently cleaning the room as we speak, actually.
15:16 🔗 ersi Then it's on topic :) 11:28 <@ersi> http://imgur.com/a/cggl7 - ArchiveTeam: Save the world! Get the most out of your Sony CD-RW burner
15:49 🔗 instence http://www.michaelnielsen.org/ddi/how-to-crawl-a-quarter-billion-webpages-in-40-hours/
15:51 🔗 godane SketchCow: uploaded: http://archive.org/details/commodore-64-training-type-with-jim-butterfield
15:51 🔗 godane you can just do a talk on this video
16:26 🔗 swebb instence: interesting article.
16:29 🔗 godane getting bad influence
16:29 🔗 godane a video game review show from 1991 to 1995
16:38 🔗 godane also found a complete playthrough videos of bs zelda no densetsu
16:39 🔗 godane it was the japanese versions of 2 zelda games for bs-x
16:39 🔗 godane this also has the japanese voices in them
17:06 🔗 C-Keen godane: that video is awesome
17:14 🔗 DFJustin typo, "type" in the title should be "tape"
17:16 🔗 godane its a typo in the url too
17:17 🔗 DFJustin yeah, that can't be fixed though
17:17 🔗 godane i thought there was a way to redirection a item to another item name
17:18 🔗 godane uploaded: http://archive.org/details/birth-of-biohazard
17:20 🔗 godane with BS Zelda no densetsu i'm going to put all parts in one item
17:42 🔗 Schbirid telefragged.com_phpbb2_$(date +%Y%m%d) --warc-cdx --keep-session-cookies --load-cookies=tenfourmaps.telefragged.com_phpbb2_cookies http://tenfourmaps.telefragged.com/phpbb2/
17:42 🔗 Schbirid wget --spider --keep-session-cookies --save-cookies=tenfourmaps.telefragged.com_phpbb2_cookies http://tenfourmaps.telefragged.com/phpbb2/ && wget -m -np -w 1 -a tenfourmaps.telefragged.com_phpbb2_$(date +%Y%m%d).log -e robots=off -nv --adjust-extension --convert-links --page-requisites --reject-regex='(\?p=|&p=|mode=reply|mode=viewprofile|mode=post|mode=email|mode=quote|mode=newtopic|view=|search.php|login.php)' --warc-file=tenfourmaps.
17:42 🔗 Schbirid totally did not work well
17:43 🔗 Schbirid it did
17:43 🔗 Schbirid wait
17:43 🔗 Schbirid sorry for the spam
17:43 🔗 Schbirid math101 fail
18:04 🔗 SketchCow [2:03:22 PM] Kenji Nagahashi (Internet Archive): for stat lovers: % of video migrated from Google Video to YouTube: 11%
18:07 🔗 shaqfu Does that count videos that were split due to length?
18:10 🔗 godane shaqfu: i think so
18:11 🔗 shaqfu That's distressing :(
18:15 🔗 godane i got the first game run through
18:22 🔗 godane shaqfu: Uploaded: http://archive.org/details/donkey-kong-exposed-the-making-of-donkey-kong-country
18:30 🔗 godane uploading week 1 of BS Zelda no Densetsu
18:32 🔗 underscor godane: I can move type->tape when I get back to the computer
18:34 🔗 godane underscor: ok
18:51 🔗 godane shaqfu: Uploaded: http://archive.org/details/BS_Zelda_no_Densetsu_Week_1
18:56 🔗 nitro2k01 The player is broken. You can't skip to a later position in the video.
18:56 🔗 nitro2k01 Even inside the cached portion, even when the file has been fully cached
18:57 🔗 nitro2k01 Old player works
19:52 🔗 godane doing a panic download of mpaa.org
19:55 🔗 underscor Panic?
19:55 🔗 godane i'm doing it for the pdfs and jpegs
19:56 🔗 godane the pdfs i noticed only go to 2007
19:57 🔗 godane and there is not a lot on archive.org
19:57 🔗 godane of them
19:57 🔗 godane only 1 piracy report from 2005
20:03 🔗 underscor Oic
20:03 🔗 underscor I didn't know if they were closing or something :D
20:23 🔗 Schbirid http://dayofdigitalarchives.blogspot.de/2012/08/d0da-2012.html
20:43 🔗 ZoeB I've managed to install Wget 1.14! What's the preferred Archive Team style usage? "wget -mbc --warc-file='example' http://example.com/"?
20:43 🔗 ZoeB http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Wget and http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Wget_with_WARC_output seem slightly at odds with each other
20:44 🔗 Schbirid ZoeB: --warc-cdx seems handy
20:44 🔗 Schbirid the wiki is always outdatd
20:44 🔗 ZoeB ah
20:44 🔗 ZoeB I'm probably a bit naive to expect a One True Method
20:44 🔗 Schbirid always depends on the site and your motive
20:45 🔗 Schbirid gotta go to bed, sorry
20:45 🔗 ZoeB no worries, thanks
20:45 🔗 Schbirid welcome though :)
20:45 🔗 ZoeB thank you :)
20:47 🔗 ZoeB ooh, this *does* look clean...
20:47 🔗 ZoeB no more countless files
20:49 🔗 alard It's clean until you get to the next step. You've made a warc file, now what? :) We're a little bit short on programs to read and extract content from warcs.
20:50 🔗 ZoeB is the wayback machine open source? I'm guessing everyone could theoretically make ther own wayback server for websites they've mirrored? or somehow give them to archive.org
20:52 🔗 alard Yes, it is open source, but rather painful to set up if you just want to look in one or two warc files.
20:53 🔗 ZoeB fair enough, good point
20:53 🔗 ZoeB but I'm confident that people will write good extracting/browsing programs later on, this'll help me sleep at night :)
20:54 🔗 alard Certainly, it's even something that is on the archiveteam agenda.
20:55 🔗 ZoeB time to preserve some sites then \o/ yay!
20:55 🔗 ZoeB thanks for the help :)
21:10 🔗 SketchCow It most certainly is open source.
21:10 🔗 SketchCow alard - did you see the warc to zip thing?
21:10 🔗 SketchCow It was awesome
21:10 🔗 alard This? http://warctozip.herokuapp.com/
21:28 🔗 SketchCow yes
21:32 🔗 underscor He wrote it, didn't he?
21:32 🔗 godane SketchCow: i got BS Zelda no Densetsu run through up: http://archive.org/details/BS_Zelda_no_Densetsu_Week_1
21:33 🔗 godane and BS Zelda no Densetsu - Kodai no Sekiban: http://archive.org/details/BS_Zelda_no_Densetsu_Kodai_no_Sekiban_Week_1
21:34 🔗 godane there is 4 weeks for each game
21:35 🔗 godane and with real voice acting audio
21:35 🔗 alard underscor: I'm quite familiar with the warctozip thing, yes. :) (Still think it's a good idea to host it on a fos-like machine, by the way.)
22:02 🔗 godane got all mpaa press releases pdfs
22:02 🔗 godane and mirror of the site
22:30 🔗 underscor alard: do you have instructions? I have a more-stable VM I can put it on
22:31 🔗 alard underscor: https://github.com/alard/warctozip-service
22:32 🔗 alard (off to sleep now)
22:32 🔗 underscor godane: once this crazy-long derive finishes, it will be at http://archive.org/details/commodore-64-training-tape-with-jim-butterfield
22:33 🔗 underscor (you can watch progress here: http://archive.org/catalog.php?history=1&identifier=commodore-64-training-type-with-jim-butterfield )
22:34 🔗 DFJustin oh cool didn't know there was a rename.php
22:35 🔗 underscor It's very access restricted
22:35 🔗 DFJustin natch
22:35 🔗 SketchCow Yes, let's keep discussing IA infrastructure in the public channel
22:35 🔗 underscor (for obvious reasons, otherwise people could shit on other people's items)
22:36 🔗 DFJustin :<
22:36 🔗 SketchCow Here is what the last fifteen years has taught me
22:36 🔗 SketchCow Step 1. "blah blah using php at a.com"
22:36 🔗 SketchCow Step 2. a.com is utterly destroyed
22:36 🔗 underscor :<
22:36 🔗 SketchCow I hate PHP soooooooooooooo much
22:37 🔗 underscor ^ yeah, that
22:37 🔗 underscor It's the worst thing about the archive, to me. </non-employee-hat>
22:37 🔗 SketchCow I keep forgetting you're an employee
22:37 🔗 SketchCow ha HA ha
22:38 🔗 underscor but IA's other qualities make up for it
22:39 🔗 philpem I just need something to catalogue my collection of weird digital artefacts :-/
22:39 🔗 philpem seriously: XTREE just doesn't cut it any more.
22:39 🔗 SketchCow http://www.ebay.com/itm/221096941590?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1426.l2649#ht_500wt_1414
22:39 🔗 SketchCow Will I win?
22:39 🔗 balrog is there any reason PHP *has* to be used?
22:39 🔗 SketchCow Will I win.
22:39 🔗 balrog SketchCow: please do :)
22:40 🔗 philpem SketchCow, Oh I hope you win. And then proceed to archive them all :)
22:40 🔗 balrog though when it comes to Lord_Nigh and myself, it seems Apple II floppy disks breed around here on their own
22:40 🔗 SketchCow Yes.
22:40 🔗 SketchCow I'll be turning my laser on you disk people soon, you know
22:40 🔗 SketchCow Look the fuck out
22:40 🔗 balrog I'm rather exhausted
22:40 🔗 SketchCow I'm temporarily held up doing some post defcon documentary shooting clip classification
22:40 🔗 balrog worked 8:50-5:20 today
22:40 🔗 SketchCow I'm twice your age
22:40 🔗 balrog errrr 7:50
22:40 🔗 SketchCow you can handle it
22:40 🔗 balrog I can handle it, true :)
22:41 🔗 balrog documentary stuff is important
22:41 🔗 balrog in general, there's so much stuff out there worth archiving, it would be impossible for one person to do it all :[
22:41 🔗 balrog SketchCow: a friend of mine has a large personal collection of Amiga disks
22:41 🔗 balrog mostly originals
22:42 🔗 balrog Amiga ... should be easier than those darned Apple II disks
22:42 🔗 philpem I wanted to get the DiscFerrets sent out on Saturday.. like hell that happened.
22:42 🔗 underscor balrog: no particular reason. that's just what it was originally written in back in '97
22:43 🔗 DFJustin yeah just stuff in an off the shelf 3.5" hooked up to kryoflux/discferret and bam
22:43 🔗 balrog underscor: maybe parts should be rewritten? I mean, IA could use a good facelift
22:43 🔗 philpem managed to eat something with tomato in it (god only knows what). bam! food allergy special.
22:43 🔗 balrog :[
22:44 🔗 philpem roaring headache from saturday evening to this afternoon, plus "arghifImovetheneverythinghurts"
22:47 🔗 godane i uploading mpaa.org panic download
22:48 🔗 godane with zip of all pdfs from www.mpaa.org/news/pr
22:48 🔗 philpem still need to sit down and do the use case and ERD diagrams for Hoard.
22:49 🔗 godane i couldn't get that in warc.gz cause that page used some www.mpaa.org/ajax/default.aspx
22:49 🔗 * philpem wonders why people are archiving the MPAA's site...
22:49 🔗 godane philpem: i archived ifpi.org
22:50 🔗 godane philpem: http://archive.org/details/ifpi.org-20120810-mirror
22:50 🔗 godane it has alot of pictures, pdfs, and some mp3 and wma
22:51 🔗 philpem ah
22:51 🔗 philpem MP3s on the IFPI's site? say it ain't so! :D
22:51 🔗 underscor balrog: I agree. It's difficult, organizationally, though. There are a lot of people who have to work in concert.
22:51 🔗 godane its interviews or phone interviews
22:52 🔗 godane there is only one wma and one mp3
22:52 🔗 underscor Plus, I'm really not in a position for things like that. I already know too much/cause too much trouble as is in my position as collections monkey
22:52 🔗 underscor just ask SketchCow
22:54 🔗 godane hey shaqfu
22:54 🔗 shaqfu Hey
22:54 🔗 philpem bleh, this machine is doing my head in.
22:55 🔗 godane i'm getting bad influence season 1 to 4
22:55 🔗 philpem if anyone happens to know any ex-Polaroid engineers from the Massachussetts
22:55 🔗 philpem office, please let me know?
22:55 🔗 philpem trying to find someone who worked on the film recorder product line.
22:56 🔗 philpem or anyone who happens to have a copy of the "interface toolkit" SDK or hardware docs (SCSI commands, SDK instructions and so on)
22:56 🔗 SketchCow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hawEYcGRC_c
22:58 🔗 godane philpem: do it have anything to do with polaroid id card maker
22:58 🔗 godane *does
22:59 🔗 philpem one of the ID card makers used a HR-6000 film recorder, yes.
22:59 🔗 philpem think it was the ID-4
22:59 🔗 balrog SketchCow: tweeting that you're bidding on something is not always recommended :/
22:59 🔗 godane philpem: http://www.marietta.edu/~mcshaffd/macro/pfilmrec.html
23:00 🔗 underscor SketchCow: I imagine that playing while we walked through the casinos on monday night
23:00 🔗 SketchCow balrog: If someone wants to spend hundreds to fuck me over, kudos
23:01 🔗 philpem godane, yeah, I've seen that. user instructions.
23:13 🔗 philpem I've got the HR-6000 user guide and Rasterplus but it won't work properly on any of my machines (and I'll be damned if I'm buying an ITX machine just for that)
23:13 🔗 philpem SDK docs would be very useful, documentation on the filmtable format would be, quite honestly, the dog's nuts.
23:15 🔗 dashcloud got a link to the device page? (or somewhere that tells about the machine/device in general?)
23:15 🔗 philpem best I've found are ebay listings
23:16 🔗 philpem http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Polaroid-HR-6000-Digital-Palette-Film-Recorder-w-/230386061812
23:16 🔗 philpem I actually posted on classiccmp about it.
23:16 🔗 godane uploaded: http://archive.org/details/mpaa.org-20120813-mirror
23:17 🔗 philpem there are five models: CI-3000S, CI-5000S, HR-6000, ProPalette 7000 and ProPalette 8000 (in order of capabilities)
23:17 🔗 philpem the 3000S and 5000S are SCSI capable. 3000 and 5000 are not. SCSI is standard on the HR6000 and ProPalette series.
23:17 🔗 dashcloud thanks!
23:20 🔗 philpem the drivers I know of are Cameleo (Linux, by CalderaGraphics), ImagePrint (polaroid's DOS driver), SuperPrint 2 Polaroid Edition (Win3.1, Zenographics), eXTRASlide (NeXT), RasterPlus (Win/Mac), SiPrint Assistant (Mac Classic) and Art Department Professional (Amiga)
23:20 🔗 balrog There was also an IRIX driver afaik
23:20 🔗 philpem yeah
23:20 🔗 philpem and one for the Atari ST
23:21 🔗 philpem the manuals I really want are the "SCSI Parallel Interface Specification Manual" and "Digital Palette Product Specification Manual"
23:22 🔗 philpem there's also a tool called "GENTEST" or "DP2DIAG" which was distributed to service centres by Polaroid - part number 13437, "Digital Palette Test Software"
23:28 🔗 godane i'm going to be uploading Isaac Asimov Science Adventure II
23:28 🔗 godane is there a chance of it going dark?
23:29 🔗 godane it was release in 1994
23:29 🔗 chronomex there's always a chance :)
23:32 🔗 godane i may live with this one going dark if it has to
23:32 🔗 godane but i prefer that it doesn't go dark in less there a dmca notice for it
23:57 🔗 philpem http://www.philpem.me.uk/code/filmrec/

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