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17:53
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Lord_Nigh |
digital.com - sorry this site has been excluded from the wayback machine - huh? |
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17:54
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Lord_Nigh |
i know dec.com and digital.com were aliases of one another before september 2000 or so |
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17:54
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Lord_Nigh |
but why is digital.com blocked and dec.com not? |
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17:54
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Lord_Nigh |
(looking for http://www.digital.com/info/DTJK01/DTJK01SC.TXT ) |
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17:54
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balrog_ |
http://www.hp.com/robots.txt |
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17:54
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balrog_ |
I don't see an explicit ia_archiver block there |
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17:55
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Lord_Nigh |
though it does list /info/ as blocked. hmm |
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17:55
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Lord_Nigh |
i'm looking for the old dec technical journal indices |
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17:55
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Lord_Nigh |
and yeah i think the dectalk source code is well and truly lost; martin minow might have had a copy before his death in december 2000 since he wrote much of it :( |
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17:56
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Lord_Nigh |
well, he was one of the people who ported over the C bsd4.1 mitalk code which became klatttalk before dec licensed it |
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17:57
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Lord_Nigh |
fonix has the dectalk 4.31 src from force computers inc but that might be the last copy of any derivative of mitalk |
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17:57
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Lord_Nigh |
i would be extremely surprised if MIT still has a copy of the mitalk source code |
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17:58
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Lord_Nigh |
and klatt's wife/kids MIGHT have a copy of the klatttalk src, but who knows |
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17:58
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Lord_Nigh |
since klatt died in 1988 of lung cancer |
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17:59
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balrog_ |
looks like there USED to be a mirror of dec's ftp on http://computer-refuge.org/ |
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17:59
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Lord_Nigh |
maybe SketchCow knows who to ask, i'm almost out of ideas |
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17:59
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Lord_Nigh |
the best i can do is ram the dtc-01 roms through ida or something and see if anything is understandable/recoverable that way |
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18:01
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balrog_ |
you have this document? http://www.linux-mips.org/pub/linux/mips/people/macro/DEC/DTJ/DTJK01/DTJK01PF.PDF |
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18:03
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balrog_ |
you could email the guy who's listed on the whois for computer-refuge.org |
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18:03
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balrog_ |
since http://computer-refuge.org/classiccmp/ftp.digital.com-jun2004/pub/Digital/info |
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18:05
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balrog_ |
meh, I'll email him |
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18:05
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balrog_ |
ok? |
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18:05
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balrog_ |
Lord_Nigh: ^ |
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18:07
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Lord_Nigh |
ok |
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18:08
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Lord_Nigh |
got that pdf, better copy of the one i had before |
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18:09
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Lord_Nigh |
guess: DTxxxxSC = ASCII (get it? SC? ascii?) |
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18:09
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Lord_Nigh |
PF = pdf |
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18:09
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balrog_ |
hmm, yeah |
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18:09
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Lord_Nigh |
and i'm guessing PS was postscript |
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18:09
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balrog_ |
so it would be the same data? |
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18:09
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Lord_Nigh |
probably |
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18:09
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balrog_ |
any reason you want the ascii? |
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18:10
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balrog_ |
does it have something the PDF does not? |
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18:10
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Lord_Nigh |
no |
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18:10
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balrog_ |
ok |
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18:14
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Lord_Nigh |
still the dec stuff needs to be archived properly... |
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18:14
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Lord_Nigh |
also someone mentioned the bell labs technical archives stuff still exists somewhere? |
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18:14
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balrog_ |
yeah :/ |
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18:14
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balrog_ |
the technical journal? |
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18:14
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balrog_ |
right here: http://www.alcatel-lucent.com/bstj/ |
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18:14
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Lord_Nigh |
ok |
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18:15
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Lord_Nigh |
do they have the issues from the 1970s? |
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18:15
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balrog_ |
they have all issues |
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18:15
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Lord_Nigh |
cool |
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18:15
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balrog_ |
"from volume 1 issue 1 in July 1922 to the final issue published in December 1983" |
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18:15
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Lord_Nigh |
i wonder if they have the errata to the article mcilroy wrote in the 70s |
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18:15
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Lord_Nigh |
he scanned the errata and the article and put it on his page |
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18:15
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balrog_ |
were the errata published in one of the issues? |
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18:21
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Lord_Nigh |
balrog_: probably in a later issue |
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18:21
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balrog_ |
figured as much |
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18:46
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godane |
i got rtmpdump working with gbtv |
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18:46
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godane |
or the blaze tv its called now |