[00:05] 101G . [00:05] root@teamarchive-1:/1/THINGYVERSE# du -sh . [00:06] Thingiverse backup is now up to 101g [00:06] At 24k out of 35k objects [00:14] Going to shove the Tumblr test into the archive [00:24] TUMBLR/tumblr-addictedtocock.tumblr.com-20120810-062721.warc.gz [00:24] SAVED FOREVEER [00:24] EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR [00:25] Long after we're dead, the next species to claw to the top finds it [00:25] thank you, archiveteam [00:25] hoorayyyy [00:30] TUMBLR/tumblr-becauseimavampire.tumblr.com-20120813-222701.warc.gz [00:30] hah [00:32] not as strange as http://thedogknot.tumblr.com/ [00:33] (nsfw) [00:33] That one blog gives the future everything they need to know about the 2010s. [00:33] (becauseimavampire that is) [00:33] hahah [00:36] mistym: I'm going to buy two cameras for the scanner, and not use the MKIIs. [00:37] SketchCow: What changed your mind? [00:52] Wear and tear on $4000 cameras meant for documentaries. [00:54] V. good point [01:03] ersi: did you really just ask my what is wrong with leaving a program running that is doig nothing but chewing up memory and occasional bandwidth, is inefficient? :) [01:31] TUMBLR/tumblr-8inchthickness.tumblr.com-20120810-065948.warc.gz [01:31] Tumblr.... the elite [01:37] hot [02:32] dragondon: It's not 1990 man. [02:52] ersi: what has that got to do with efficiency? [02:59] dragondon: Nevermind man, nevermind. Geez. [04:37] Fist fight [04:37] I want it [04:38] * SketchCow breaks pool cue in half [04:38] make it quick [04:38] Na na na na, capt' stabby [04:38] stabby stabby stab [04:38] http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/7/26/3181188/debunked-the-strange-ride-of-millionaire-game-developer-bunky-bartlett [04:38] http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/Mr+Stabby/ [04:42] I didn't know there were 4 Mr. Stabby cartoons, so kudos for that [04:42] Well, now you know. [04:43] THIS MESSAGE WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY; THE MORE YOU KNOW! [04:47] http://archive.org/details/archiveteam-tumblr-test [04:49] D, F, L and T are surprisingly bigger than the other letters [04:49] I wonder why that is [05:02] DeFauLT [05:38] dicks [05:38] fuck [05:38] uh [05:38] lesbians and trannies? [05:38] there we go [05:39] actually, there probably are a lot of reddits that start with those words [05:39] s/reddits/tumblrs/ [07:12] what's the best way to get ahold of a functional 5 1/4" floppy drive these days [07:12] testing my eBay luck? [07:13] probably, or poking companies and asking if they got legacy crap laying about in storage [07:13] is that really a thing people do? [07:14] just walk in the front door and ask if anyone has floppy drives i can take [07:15] Sure, or ask your friends if they have parents/friends in office jobs - and get them to ask the IT [07:15] It's free cleaning service, ma! [07:15] man* [07:15] :) [07:15] what's the best method for connecting one of these things to a modern PC? [07:15] I've helped clean out atleast two IT storages, we got to take whatever we wanted besides hard drives. Uh.. well, probably USB <> IDE dongle? [07:15] or should i just piece and parts together a machine that still had a floppy header on the mobo? [07:16] Always good to have a legacy machine around :) [07:16] i'm learning this slowly [07:17] thanks for the help! [07:17] you're very welcome [07:17] i just successfully rescued my Kings Quest 5 floppies with a USB 3 1/2" drive I got at a thrift store this afternoon [07:17] and a whole world just opened up to me [11:12] i'm backing up gbtv episodes [11:12] or theblaze tv episodes [13:54] you going to be getting some wikimedia images in my underground gamer external image dump [17:23] We really have to seriously think of the reddits. [17:23] You know, after other stuff. [17:24] You know, after the nothing stuff etc [17:33] Right. [17:36] ok [18:05] !List [18:07] i think we can use -np option of wget for reddit [18:07] only cause i think all urls in a topic is a suburl [19:56] godane: Or Wget with a Lua script. [20:25] Whoops, sitesled went under. [20:25] That just took a significant pile of sites. [20:26] amerrykan: The easiest way is to buy through e-bay or through wholesalers. [20:26] Why do you need one - to work with legacy disks and a disk reader? [21:28] SketchCow: turning old PC floppies into images for future use [21:30] http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=teac+fd-55gfr then [21:31] thanks! [21:32] No problem. 55gfrs are the really best ones to have. Try to get new old stock and don't be afraid to buy multiples. [21:33] Because you end up buying them, and then workhorsing the little fuckers into dust [21:33] makes sense [21:33] recommendations for make/model of 3 1/2" floppy drive? [21:33] * closure is in the process of learning the hard way that 16gb usb flash drives from china tend to be a lot crappier build quality than saner, smaller sizes [21:34] usb .. floppies of our decade [21:34] for serious [21:36] i picked up a boxed "Mad Dog Multimedia Dominator 2x External USB Floppy Drive" at a thrift store for $5 yesterday and it seems to do the job but who knows right [21:36] MULTIMEDIA DOMINATOR [21:36] excellent name [21:37] the floppy drive powered solely by energy drinks [21:38] external USB is less desirable because you can't hook it up to kryoflux/discferret for copy protected / weird format stuff [21:39] but for $5 who cares I guess [21:40] it's fine for these early 90s DOS games i'm extracting at the moment [21:41] the key is: [21:41] 1 - make sure your extractor does comparisons to make sure it did it right [21:41] i'm redumping each disk twice and then diff'ing, and haven't hit a mismatch yet, so it seems pretty solid [21:41] 2 - don't throw shit away just because you 'saved' it [21:41] Just pack it up and away [21:41] ayup [21:42] dd has a 'nocache' option that would make my life easier but i can't figure out the command-line syntax it expects it in [21:42] dos games can have disk copy protection but it's less common than other platforms [21:44] if i'm running 'dd if=/dev/sdb of=Disk.img' where do i supply 'nocache'? [21:44] i've tried adding 'conv=nocache' before 'if=' and after 'Disk.img', it complains that it doesn't understand what i'm asking [21:44] google wasn't much help [21:45] Why do you need nocache? [21:46] when i try to make a second dump of the disk (to compare with diff), disk cache just immediately makes a copy of the image it just read [21:47] i worked around by cycling through the stack of disks twice but if i could turn of the cache, i could automate it with a script [21:47] if I RECALL it's o= [21:47] o=nocache? [21:47] dd of=ofile oflag=nocache conv=notrunc,fdatasync count=0 [21:47] oflag [21:47] try that [21:47] Sorry, just the oflag, not the rest of that crap [21:48] ok, i'll give it a shot when i can boot back into linux after work [21:48] thanks for the insight [21:52] amerrykan: Are you using the raw disk device? [21:52] Wait I'm thinking Mac :) [21:52] Yes, he is, of course he is. [21:52] ddrescue has a raw mode switch which bypasses cache [21:53] I prefer it over dd in any case because of progress reporting and logging. [21:53] i'll look into it [21:54] any recommendations for cranking out reliable ISO images? [21:54] from CDROM/DVDROM? [21:54] i find mismatches in my images occasionally across multiple redumps [21:55] sometimes it can take four to five redumps to produce matching images [21:55] data isos? really? [21:55] ? [21:56] chronomex: this is the same thing i was talking about here a week or two ago [21:56] sorry, I haven't been paying attention to this channel lately [21:57] i thought you were part of the conversation, i could be mistaken [21:57] i had a vacation between then and now :) [22:21] do the discs in question have audio tracks [22:31] chronomex: BETRAYER [22:53] :( [22:53] ./software 617-599-2284 "Renegade" [22:53] ./town 617-599-2284 Lynn, MA [22:53] Whoops [22:56] SketchCow: tell me about media mail- when is it worth using over regular boxes? trying to clean up and ship stuff out to people who would actually use it or store it properly [22:56] media mail is a special price you get when your container is all books or cds or disks or tapes or whatever [22:57] "published materials" [22:57] it's nearly always worth it, but larger containers get you a bigger discount [22:57] Right. [22:57] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_mail#Service_level_choices [22:58] for example, I've sent crates of books to archive.org. A crate holding, say, 50 books. $15. [22:58] Got there in three weeks. [22:58] how efficient are they at scanning books? [22:58] I have piles of tech books [22:58] They are slow as molasses, because they have a massive backlog [22:58] figured as much [22:58] So if you mail it in hoping to browse the pages next month, fail. [22:59] But if you want to ensure it will: 1. be scanned 2. be stores [22:59] Well, there you go [22:59] also they don't make it public unless it's PD [22:59] http://statusboard.archive.org/ is very informative for this. [22:59] yeah. if it's not PD, I'd at least like to receive it [22:59] (to do what I please with it) [22:59] http://archive.org/details/enlacocinamonlog00sure [22:59] I don't think it works that way, balrog_ [22:59] not with IA at least [23:00] if I scan stuff myself, yeah it does work that way :) [23:00] correct [23:00] you can scan and upload yourself [23:00] then maybe send it in or whatever [23:00] yeah [23:00] say "here are some books I already scanned fyi" [23:00] That book, I just linked... it was 10 days from acquisition (into the system) to being electronically available. [23:00] SketchCow: not bad [23:01] yeah that's pretty quick [23:01] apparently the latest version of ABBYY (11) now has the option to turn your scans into ebooks [23:02] But I'll see ones from China take 9 months. [23:02] The reason is, the way they're transported, IA puts them into a shipping container and sends it by boat to Shenzhen [23:02] So they get logged here and go off there for scan. [23:14] so if I have computer manuals and such, should I send them to IA or you for them to end up on the site? [23:15] IA directly is best [23:20] What sort of materials are being gathered for scanning? [23:25] in reference to what? [23:25] Oh, I was referring to your statement about computer manuals and such. [23:36] ah [23:37] I have a bunch of crap in a storage unit I'll be sifting through later this year. Would be good to know if anything I'm considering tossing would be worth sending to be scanned. [23:37] I've got some old sound card manuals, motherboard manuals, old computer books, and some old driver/setup CDs [23:37] Yeah, I have a bunch of stuff like that. [23:38] and the box of Palm Pilot CD's plus Palm Pilot I got cheap somewhere [23:39] Hah, I have a palm pilot [23:40] Is there already an archive of computer manuals to prevent sending in dupes?