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07:04
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SketchCow |
Uploading the speech |
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07:06
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winr4r |
SketchCow: HEY |
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07:06
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godane |
SketchCow: i uploaded the external url list of images from my torrentbytes dump: http://archive.org/details/torrentbytes.net-exterinal-images-list |
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07:06
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winr4r |
was that on the recorder you left on the podium? |
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07:10
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/20130724JasonScottNDSADigitalPreservation2013ArchiveTeam |
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07:16
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winr4r |
yay |
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07:16
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winr4r |
i'll fix the Talks page once i've updated the snapjoy page |
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07:16
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winr4r |
(snapjoy is officially dead) |
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07:38
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winr4r |
http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talks updated :) |
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07:39
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ivan` |
what's the bottleneck with backing up a much greater percentage of the web? |
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07:39
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ivan` |
primarily money for HDDs, or something else? |
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07:39
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winr4r |
good question |
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07:40
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winr4r |
hardware and bandwidth |
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07:40
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winr4r |
which is to say "hardware" |
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07:40
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ivan` |
bandwidth has gotten really cheap compared to storage |
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07:40
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winr4r |
http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Snapjoy updated |
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07:41
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winr4r |
ivan`: but if you think through the numbers of downloading, say, youtube |
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07:41
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winr4r |
that's a looooot of pipe |
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07:42
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ivan` |
100mbit is $60/mo at a host like OVH |
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07:42
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ivan` |
the storage for the 28.5TB you download is ~$1200 |
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07:43
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winr4r |
yeah, true, storage might be more of the bottleneck |
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07:43
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winr4r |
but then, maybe, and i'm speculating, they can price the bandwidth at $60 a month if they know you're not going to use it full-throttle because of storage costs? |
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07:44
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ivan` |
true, they can cut you off in that case, they request some people to pay another $100/mo for really using all of it |
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07:45
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ivan` |
anyway, you're going to fill up the disks on that machine long before the month is over ;) |
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07:46
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winr4r |
yes |
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07:51
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ivan` |
one copy of 10PB on today's drives is $500K |
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07:53
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winr4r |
yes |
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07:54
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winr4r |
they report that facebook was storing 180 petabytes a year |
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07:54
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winr4r |
we, and i mean we as a species, are going to be fucked when it goes away |
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07:54
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winr4r |
and it will |
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07:58
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ivan` |
"The data is stored on two separate hardware nodes as soon as it is uploaded to archive.org. As far as I know, the system does not do extra ECC (beyond what the hard drive does internally). However, in one of the item's xml files, it stores a list of files for the item along with checksums, which can be used to verify the files on each node." |
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07:58
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ivan` |
interesting, back in 2008 an IA employee told me it was just one copy |
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08:03
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winr4r |
maybe it was! |
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10:43
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norbert79 |
Hey team, while this site doesn't go down (hopefully) it would be still a great material to be saved: http://thesprawl.org/simstim/ |
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10:44
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norbert79 |
or at least the videos inside |
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10:45
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ersi |
Ooooh, immediately got what it is |
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10:47
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norbert79 |
If you are asking what the site is about, it is focusing on hacking and security; the subpage listed contains some nice old documentations |
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10:47
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norbert79 |
many old interviews |
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10:48
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ersi |
Well, it's clearly inspired by William Gibsons work Neuromancer |
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10:48
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ersi |
or well "The Sprawl" series ;-) |
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10:48
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norbert79 |
:) |
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10:48
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ersi |
should re-read that again |
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10:49
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norbert79 |
I was basically looking for old shots on telnet MOTD's from servers when I foun d this |
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10:49
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norbert79 |
*found |
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10:50
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norbert79 |
i meant documentary, not documentations |
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11:50
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balrog |
http://boingboing.net/2013/07/24/book-scanning-brings-the-19th.html |
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13:01
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SmileyG |
https://archive.org/details/snapjoy_images - SketchCow or underscor; needs moving to archiveteam collection, possibly enabling as a gallery? (I'm not sure if my admin access lets me do this, but if it does I couldn't see how.) |
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14:31
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balrog |
can someone move http://archive.org/details/w4rnl.net46.net_20130723 to site downloads? |
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14:33
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omf_ |
Jason's talk about ArchiveTeam at Digital Preservation 2013 is online and has a flac version :D https://archive.org/details/20130724JasonScottNDSADigitalPreservation2013ArchiveTeam |
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14:38
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joepie91 |
argh, I hate audio-only :( |
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14:38
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joepie91 |
I need something to occupy my eyes... |
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14:39
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joepie91 |
even if it's just watching someone lingering around talking |
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14:47
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SmileyG |
We aren't all 15 :P |
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14:47
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* |
SmileyG is old ;( |
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15:43
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edsu |
omf_: thanks for sharing |
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17:35
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antomatic |
Now available in text format: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Digital_Preservation_2013_Transcript |
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17:40
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joepie91 |
antomatic: thanks, that works for me :p |
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17:42
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winr4r |
awesome |
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19:57
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xmc |
hooray! <3 |
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20:55
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SmileyG |
winr4r: o hhey |
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20:55
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winr4r |
SmileyG: hiiii |