#archiveteam 2013-07-25,Thu

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07:04 🔗 SketchCow Uploading the speech
07:06 🔗 winr4r SketchCow: HEY
07:06 🔗 godane SketchCow: i uploaded the external url list of images from my torrentbytes dump: http://archive.org/details/torrentbytes.net-exterinal-images-list
07:06 🔗 winr4r was that on the recorder you left on the podium?
07:10 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/20130724JasonScottNDSADigitalPreservation2013ArchiveTeam
07:16 🔗 winr4r yay
07:16 🔗 winr4r i'll fix the Talks page once i've updated the snapjoy page
07:16 🔗 winr4r (snapjoy is officially dead)
07:38 🔗 winr4r http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talks updated :)
07:39 🔗 ivan` what's the bottleneck with backing up a much greater percentage of the web?
07:39 🔗 ivan` primarily money for HDDs, or something else?
07:39 🔗 winr4r good question
07:40 🔗 winr4r hardware and bandwidth
07:40 🔗 winr4r which is to say "hardware"
07:40 🔗 ivan` bandwidth has gotten really cheap compared to storage
07:40 🔗 winr4r http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Snapjoy updated
07:41 🔗 winr4r ivan`: but if you think through the numbers of downloading, say, youtube
07:41 🔗 winr4r that's a looooot of pipe
07:42 🔗 ivan` 100mbit is $60/mo at a host like OVH
07:42 🔗 ivan` the storage for the 28.5TB you download is ~$1200
07:43 🔗 winr4r yeah, true, storage might be more of the bottleneck
07:43 🔗 winr4r but then, maybe, and i'm speculating, they can price the bandwidth at $60 a month if they know you're not going to use it full-throttle because of storage costs?
07:44 🔗 ivan` true, they can cut you off in that case, they request some people to pay another $100/mo for really using all of it
07:45 🔗 ivan` anyway, you're going to fill up the disks on that machine long before the month is over ;)
07:46 🔗 winr4r yes
07:51 🔗 ivan` one copy of 10PB on today's drives is $500K
07:53 🔗 winr4r yes
07:54 🔗 winr4r they report that facebook was storing 180 petabytes a year
07:54 🔗 winr4r we, and i mean we as a species, are going to be fucked when it goes away
07:54 🔗 winr4r and it will
07:58 🔗 ivan` "The data is stored on two separate hardware nodes as soon as it is uploaded to archive.org. As far as I know, the system does not do extra ECC (beyond what the hard drive does internally). However, in one of the item's xml files, it stores a list of files for the item along with checksums, which can be used to verify the files on each node."
07:58 🔗 ivan` interesting, back in 2008 an IA employee told me it was just one copy
08:03 🔗 winr4r maybe it was!
10:43 🔗 norbert79 Hey team, while this site doesn't go down (hopefully) it would be still a great material to be saved: http://thesprawl.org/simstim/
10:44 🔗 norbert79 or at least the videos inside
10:45 🔗 ersi Ooooh, immediately got what it is
10:47 🔗 norbert79 If you are asking what the site is about, it is focusing on hacking and security; the subpage listed contains some nice old documentations
10:47 🔗 norbert79 many old interviews
10:48 🔗 ersi Well, it's clearly inspired by William Gibsons work Neuromancer
10:48 🔗 ersi or well "The Sprawl" series ;-)
10:48 🔗 norbert79 :)
10:48 🔗 ersi should re-read that again
10:49 🔗 norbert79 I was basically looking for old shots on telnet MOTD's from servers when I foun d this
10:49 🔗 norbert79 *found
10:50 🔗 norbert79 i meant documentary, not documentations
11:50 🔗 balrog http://boingboing.net/2013/07/24/book-scanning-brings-the-19th.html
13:01 🔗 SmileyG https://archive.org/details/snapjoy_images - SketchCow or underscor; needs moving to archiveteam collection, possibly enabling as a gallery? (I'm not sure if my admin access lets me do this, but if it does I couldn't see how.)
14:31 🔗 balrog can someone move http://archive.org/details/w4rnl.net46.net_20130723 to site downloads?
14:33 🔗 omf_ Jason's talk about ArchiveTeam at Digital Preservation 2013 is online and has a flac version :D https://archive.org/details/20130724JasonScottNDSADigitalPreservation2013ArchiveTeam
14:38 🔗 joepie91 argh, I hate audio-only :(
14:38 🔗 joepie91 I need something to occupy my eyes...
14:39 🔗 joepie91 even if it's just watching someone lingering around talking
14:47 🔗 SmileyG We aren't all 15 :P
14:47 🔗 * SmileyG is old ;(
15:43 🔗 edsu omf_: thanks for sharing
17:35 🔗 antomatic Now available in text format: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Digital_Preservation_2013_Transcript
17:40 🔗 joepie91 antomatic: thanks, that works for me :p
17:42 🔗 winr4r awesome
19:57 🔗 xmc hooray! <3
20:55 🔗 SmileyG winr4r: o hhey
20:55 🔗 winr4r SmileyG: hiiii

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