#archiveteam 2013-10-22,Tue

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00:52 ๐Ÿ”— cf what forsooth, prithee tell me the secret word
00:53 ๐Ÿ”— cmx cf: yahoosucks
00:54 ๐Ÿ”— cf :) lol
00:54 ๐Ÿ”— cmx :D
01:00 ๐Ÿ”— cf Quick question for you guys: are there any active projects (for the warrior) atm besides urlteam? Formspring has already died (but is still the "ArchiveTeam's Choice"?), and blip has already finished (according to the tracker).
01:01 ๐Ÿ”— Jacek Doesn't look like it then :P
01:02 ๐Ÿ”— cf Just wondering if there was one I was missing. Oh well
01:27 ๐Ÿ”— balrog can we grab http://mitchell.jp ?
01:28 ๐Ÿ”— balrog arcade game company, according to the message in the gray box at the bottom right they ceased development work 20th November 2012
01:29 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh they did home games as well, one of their more famous games is 'puzz loop' released in the usa as 'ballistic', which popcap blatantly copied with 'zuma' and sucked away sales of
01:50 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 Why do people ask, "what forsooth, prithee tell me the secret word" ?
01:52 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&type=signup&returnto=Main+Page
01:53 ๐Ÿ”— balrog the issue with that is that it ends up in the logs
01:53 ๐Ÿ”— balrog so if you google for what forsooth, prithee tell me the secret word it comes up
01:53 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin any human checking the logs could just come and ask themselves, the goal is to stop generic bots
01:57 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 Why not add a captcha?
01:57 ๐Ÿ”— M1das because yahoo sucks
01:57 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin there are captcha-defeating bots
01:58 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 alternatively, you could ask a generic question like "What is the name of the file web archive format used to store the internet?"
01:59 ๐Ÿ”— M1das according to joepie91 it will be a lua coded rpm with bmp's as screenshots
01:59 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 IRC works as well too for the most part I think. People aren't going to go to the trouble of joining irc if they aren't serious about joining the wiki.
02:09 ๐Ÿ”— * phillipsj now knows the secret word without having to join IRC ... wait... That doesn't work.
02:29 ๐Ÿ”— cmx membership in archiveteam kind of requires at least minimal irc participation
02:33 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 How do you know when you become a member? :)
02:33 ๐Ÿ”— Famicoman I like the generic questions
02:34 ๐Ÿ”— Famicoman I set one up on a mediawiki installation a while back about floppy size or something
02:47 ๐Ÿ”— eadler cmx: eh?
02:47 ๐Ÿ”— cmx eadler: nothing formal, just everything happens here
02:48 ๐Ÿ”— cmx odie5533: congratulations! you're a member!
02:48 ๐Ÿ”— * eadler wants to be a member!
02:48 ๐Ÿ”— xmc eadler: congratulations! you're a member!
02:48 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 seems to easy.... hmmm
02:48 ๐Ÿ”— eadler xmc: cool, what do I win?
02:48 ๐Ÿ”— xmc well
02:49 ๐Ÿ”— xmc if you want to be a card-carrying member, go ahead and design a card
02:49 ๐Ÿ”— M1das YAY A CARD!
02:49 ๐Ÿ”— eadler ( รขย€ยข_รขย€ยข)>รขยŒยรขย–ย -รขย–ย  (รขยŒยรขย–ย _รขย–ย )
02:49 ๐Ÿ”— eadler the card
02:50 ๐Ÿ”— Famicoman just base it off Hiro's card from snow crash
02:53 ๐Ÿ”— JRWR Ive noticed that the workers seems to be a little out of date
02:53 ๐Ÿ”— JRWR some of the projects are dead
03:10 ๐Ÿ”— n00b692 WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
03:12 ๐Ÿ”— xmc n00b692: yahoosucks
03:12 ๐Ÿ”— n00b692 merci xD
03:56 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw balrog: archivebot got a copy of mitchell.jp
03:56 ๐Ÿ”— balrog ok cool
05:15 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw wow, I can't figure out how to set the wget version number on wget build
05:15 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw this has to be a GNU standard procedure; I just need to figure out wtf it is
06:24 ๐Ÿ”— phillipsj yip wget -V
06:27 ๐Ÿ”— phillipsj yipw
06:27 ๐Ÿ”— phillipsj er yipdw
06:27 ๐Ÿ”— phillipsj oops, that does not answer the question :P
06:28 ๐Ÿ”— * phillipsj should go back to sleep
06:29 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw phillipsj: set, not get
06:29 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw phillipsj: .tarball-version works, though
06:38 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Hug
07:20 ๐Ÿ”— * BlueMax hugs SketchCow
07:47 ๐Ÿ”— hiker2 Does the Warc Viewer/warc-proxy work with HTTPS stuff?
08:04 ๐Ÿ”— hiker2 It seems not.
08:04 ๐Ÿ”— hiker2 I think we need a viewer that works with HTTPS
09:08 ๐Ÿ”— ersi might be a bit troublematic practically though?
09:10 ๐Ÿ”— godane couldn't all https traffic in proxy be treated as http?
09:10 ๐Ÿ”— godane just think that would at least allow the files to be viewed
09:12 ๐Ÿ”— hiker2 godane: some of it. but HTML files will have HTTPS images and assets embedded
09:13 ๐Ÿ”— hiker2 godane: and you can't just treat an HTTPS request as an HTTP one because the browser is expecting HTTPS.
09:13 ๐Ÿ”— hiker2 the browser won't even tell you what it wants until you start the SSL session
09:13 ๐Ÿ”— godane ok
09:15 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 just pushed a new HTTPS Proxy: https://github.com/odie5533/WarcMITMProxy
09:17 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 (improvement on WarcProxy, I think)
09:32 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 Someone earlier wanted to grab some facebook page which loaded posts using javascript over HTTPS. This proxy should work for that, and anything like it
09:33 ๐Ÿ”— antomatic Nice!
09:40 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 could probably be used with regular wget as well, since it supports proxying
09:41 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 but I think the latest wget supports warc anyways
10:54 ๐Ÿ”— gremilkar hi,please send me a secret word for register in wiki
11:03 ๐Ÿ”— M1das yahoo sucks man. it just sucks!
11:06 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Ehm, guys, why don't you move those discussions to #archiveteam-bs? :)
11:20 ๐Ÿ”— M1das Is it me or are some projects just abandoned?
11:20 ๐Ÿ”— M1das example: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=AOL_Music
11:20 ๐Ÿ”— M1das closing down since april, no progress on the wiki
11:26 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis M1das: if you have more information, add it to the page and poke people on this channel
11:26 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis Currently the page only says there are some rumors about something and "
11:26 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis The rumour is ShoutCAST and Winamp are safe for now. "
11:26 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis So it's not very good at adding a sense of urgency
11:27 ๐Ÿ”— M1das i just started mirroring the damn thing :p better save then sorry
11:56 ๐Ÿ”— gremilkar WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
11:56 ๐Ÿ”— antomatic verily, it is 'yahoosucks'
11:58 ๐Ÿ”— gremilkar thanks))
12:05 ๐Ÿ”— ersi That "captcha" brings me so much joy.
12:53 ๐Ÿ”— CowerZZZZ could someone save http://www.fullscreenmario.com/ before nintendont gets their claws into it? (including github code)
13:04 ๐Ÿ”— phillipsj they have a disclaimer at the bottom of the page. Seems legit :)
13:12 ๐Ÿ”— CowerZZZZ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24612069
13:12 ๐Ÿ”— CowerZZZZ nope
13:14 ๐Ÿ”— phillipsj diffculty I have it that I can crawl the site, but then can't redistribute the result for 75 years.
13:14 ๐Ÿ”— phillipsj I guess I might be alive then :P
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— M1das 75 years, ill be long gone
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— phillipsj apparently the full source is here: https://github.com/Diogenesthecynic/FullScreenMario
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— CowerZZZZ SketchCow doesn't care, just get it :)
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— M1das you know what, done :p
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— CowerZZZZ everything will survive until jason takes someone on a tour of the datacenter and they accidently lean on THE red button :)
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— M1das cloned, done :p
13:28 ๐Ÿ”— CowerZZZZ reminds me of one of the old protocols at our air base.. if we were actually to come under invasion from the ocean, the commanding general and his closest peer turn two keys and the entire tape vault gets a nice EM field around it to erase all the classified stuff
13:29 ๐Ÿ”— phillipsj I have the 6.6MB zip file too.
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— CowerZZZZ they still fret over how to erase their .5 petabyte RAID in a timely manner
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— M1das 30M .
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— phillipsj hmm....
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— M1das site and git
13:31 ๐Ÿ”— M1das 212K www.fullscreenmario.com
13:31 ๐Ÿ”— M1das 30M FullScreenMario
13:31 ๐Ÿ”— M1das thats one small site
13:32 ๐Ÿ”— phillipsj ohh, I may have downloaded a point release.
13:32 ๐Ÿ”— M1das i cloned the entire git
13:39 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24589338
13:41 ๐Ÿ”— M1das sweet
14:15 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin CowerZZZZ: there's always thermite
14:19 ๐Ÿ”— phillipsj my suggestion would be to keep everything in the RAID encrypted, then "forget" 256 bits.
14:20 ๐Ÿ”— phillipsj would need to burn the hard-copy of the key though.
15:26 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw CowerZZZZ: archivebot got a copy a while ago -> http://archivebot.at.ninjawedding.org:4567/#/histories/http://www.fullscreenmario.com/
15:31 ๐Ÿ”— Duffadash WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
15:33 ๐Ÿ”— Duffadash Say, would anyone be willing to add MobyGames to the Deathwatch list?
15:34 ๐Ÿ”— Duffadash They were bought by GameFly in 2010, had a complete design haulover in 2012, and quickly lost almost all of it's contributors who left in protest
15:34 ๐Ÿ”— Duffadash sorry, not 2012, September 2013
15:35 ๐Ÿ”— Duffadash Lots of information on games are only available in their database, and with no further contributions, GameFly might feel tempted to shut it down.
15:37 ๐Ÿ”— CowerZZZZ mobygames was handy years ago for boxshots.. pretty outdated now though
15:38 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 CowerZZZZ: doesn't matter, still worth archiving
15:38 ๐Ÿ”— Duffadash It's still the best source of information for older game releases. It would be a shame if it disappeared.
15:49 ๐Ÿ”— Duffadash So, is anyone adding it to the Deathwatch?
15:50 ๐Ÿ”— deathy has any information gone missing in the re-design? Seeing discussion about "missing features", could mean anything.
15:59 ๐Ÿ”— Duffadash No information seem to be missing, but the site is a buggy mess. It is virtually impossible to add new content, and it takes forever to load the Cover Art (which is in itself a bad sign)
16:04 ๐Ÿ”— Duffadash The forums are especially interesting, two threads exist for feedback on the new design: http://www.mobygames.com/forums/dga,2/dgb,4/dgm,180391/ and http://www.mobygames.com/forums/dga,2/dgb,4/dgm,180389/
16:22 ๐Ÿ”— antomatic Duffadash: secret word is 'yahoosucks;
16:23 ๐Ÿ”— antomatic without the ;
16:23 ๐Ÿ”— antomatic :)
16:23 ๐Ÿ”— antomatic or the '
16:24 ๐Ÿ”— antomatic :)
17:23 ๐Ÿ”— balrog https://github.com/visdom/ -- those repos should be grabbed
17:50 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 balrog: why
17:50 ๐Ÿ”— balrog http://www.digitalbond.com/blog/2013/10/22/call-yourself-a-hacker-lose-your-4th-amendment-rights/
17:50 ๐Ÿ”— balrog http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/10/22/153259/call-yourself-a-hacker-lose-your-4th-amendment-rights
17:50 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 just click the fork button and you get a mirror
17:51 ๐Ÿ”— balrog I know, but if there's a takedown on github all forks go away
17:54 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 Why is it that repo in particular
17:54 ๐Ÿ”— balrog rtfa
17:55 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 tl;dr
18:00 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 alright read it
18:01 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 I'd already had the /. article open in another tab to be read at a later time
18:02 ๐Ÿ”— balrog aah ok
18:02 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 bitbucket has an online importer
18:03 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/BITBUCKET/Import+code+from+an+existing+project#Importcodefromanexistingproject-Importfromahostingsiteorprojectusingtheimporter
18:12 ๐Ÿ”— godane i just found something very funny
18:12 ๐Ÿ”— godane i started to back up lddb.com and now its gone
18:13 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 your backup is gone?
18:13 ๐Ÿ”— godane no
18:13 ๐Ÿ”— godane i didn't get all of the images/items in the database
18:14 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 well it's still up for me
18:15 ๐Ÿ”— godane i got tons of 503 server unavailable errors
18:15 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 you prob overloaded the server
18:16 ๐Ÿ”— godane this must be some crappy server
18:21 ๐Ÿ”— Telescopi Did they block you?
18:24 ๐Ÿ”— chfoo odie5533: for WarcMITMProxy, the output isn't gziped and i'm also having problems with connections hanging
18:25 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 ah, I forgot to re-enable gzip
18:26 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 I pushed an update for gzip compression
18:26 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 chfoo: on what site are you getting hanging connections?
18:27 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 Also, I think it may leave open some SSL connections in case they will be used again for more traffic
18:27 ๐Ÿ”— chfoo its stuck on fbexternal-a.akamaihd.net
18:28 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 Can you give an example site?
18:28 ๐Ÿ”— chfoo i'm trying to get https://www.facebook.com/isoHunt
18:28 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 I'm glad you were able to get it running at all! I had trouble installing mitmproxy, but I use Windows so that is probably my problem.
18:29 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 loads fine for me
18:30 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 Try using a new browser. I use QupZilla Portable, which works nicely.
18:30 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 Where is the load all posts button?
18:30 ๐Ÿ”— chfoo hmm, it might be just be a problem in firefox then
18:30 ๐Ÿ”— chfoo i scrolled all the way down until the show posts from 2013 show up
18:31 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 QupZilla is actually based on Firefox, but the important thing is that it doesn't get stuffed up with any caching from your regular browser
18:31 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 There are tons of posts =/
18:31 ๐Ÿ”— chfoo yeah
18:32 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 they are all loading for me in QupZilla though
18:32 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 warc.gz is now 9 MB+
18:32 ๐Ÿ”— chfoo i'll try it out later, i've got something come up i have to do
18:33 ๐Ÿ”— godane Hello everyone! The "new" LDDb server (DELL) up and running since July has proven faulty and unstable. A new one (HP) has been reserved and the whole migration will happen again on October 15th. Hopefully it will fix all crashes/locking issues!
18:33 ๐Ÿ”— godane thats from there facebook page
18:34 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 my god isohunt was a prolific fb poster
18:36 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 hmm, what happens to all the thousands of comments?
18:36 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 when a facebook page gets deleted I mean
18:45 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 chfoo: It would probably be a good idea to write a script to automatically grab an entire facebook history. Loading posts manually is a lot of work
20:04 ๐Ÿ”— tephra http://www.gunnaraxen.se/ seems like this is down might be back up later
20:10 ๐Ÿ”— Boltie 0
20:16 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 tephra: what was that site?
20:17 ๐Ÿ”— tephra odie5533: Swedish politician
20:19 ๐Ÿ”— odie5533 I take it he didn't win?
20:19 ๐Ÿ”— tephra odie5533: in trouble with the law right now
20:19 ๐Ÿ”— tephra odie5533: well yes he is in our parlament
20:20 ๐Ÿ”— tephra hopefully it goes back up so we can grab it like its never been grabbed before
23:05 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow We grabbed full screen mario quite some time ago now
23:54 ๐Ÿ”— beatstart WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD

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