| Time |
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Message |
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00:05
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odie5533_ |
Do warriors receive a list of urls to download, or do they hunt for urls themselves? |
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00:18
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phillipsj |
prettry sure they get a list from the tacker. That way, everbody is trying different URLs |
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00:41
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odie5533_ |
but then the tracker needed to already have crawled the site, right? |
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00:41
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odie5533_ |
it seems like the site would be crawled twice then. how does the warrior help? |
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00:43
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drfsite |
Would anyone happen to have an archived copy of the media files here? |
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00:43
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drfsite |
https://web.archive.org/web/20040209025641/http://www.skycycleonline.com/media.html |
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01:15
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xmc |
odie5533_: usually we do a quick surface crawl to get valid id numbers and url formats, then fill in the tracker with things we've seen and things we've extrapolated |
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03:32
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Lord_Nigh |
did anyone archive the video of that dude knocking over the boulder? theres lots of dmca takedowns going around |
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03:38
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drfsite |
what video? |
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03:38
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odie5533_ |
this boy scout decided to knock over some million year old boulder to save children |
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03:38
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JRWR |
I know of the one |
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03:40
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odie5533_ |
Lord_Nigh: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=727_1382054402 |
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03:40
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odie5533_ |
I'm surprised he didn't somehow manage to crush himself. |
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03:41
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odie5533_ |
yay glenn! |
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03:43
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JRWR |
Lord_Nigh: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:C49EFD4BE3FBFA7FEB8C4ABF18FAE5A5ADEAB61D&dn=jackass%20topples%20200-million-year%20rock%20formation.mp4.mp4&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.publicbt.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.ccc.de%3a80%2fannounce |
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03:46
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drfsite |
wow |
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03:48
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DFJustin |
I archived it |
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04:07
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DFJustin |
hmm who had that handy script to reupload youtube-dl output to ia |
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04:08
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joepie91 |
sounds like something I'd write, but it isn't |
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04:09
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JRWR |
I kinda wish I had a script where it was question and answer script to upload files to IA |
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04:11
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BlueMax |
does there even need to be question and answer? |
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04:11
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DFJustin |
found it http://code.google.com/p/emijrp/source/browse/trunk/scrapers/youtube2internetarchive.py |
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04:38
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odie5533_ |
Why isn't that on github!? |
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04:40
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odie5533_ |
Does emijrp ever come in here? |
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04:40
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yipdw |
yeah |
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04:40
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yipdw |
and probably just didn't decide to use github |
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04:41
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odie5533_ |
How often does he come in here? |
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04:41
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yipdw |
not sure |
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04:52
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odie5533_ |
DFJustin: Did you use that script? And if so, to upload what? |
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05:01
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godane |
so cause i'm nuts i found another tech podcast |
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05:02
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godane |
called The Tech Report Podcast |
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05:02
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godane |
good news is the rss feed looks like has all mp3 |
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05:02
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godane |
make pushing downloading and pushing it easier |
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05:04
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JRWR |
A New WikiDump has been made for the following Projects: https://archive.org/details/wiki-ftlwikicom https://archive.org/details/wiki-letsplaywikicom https://archive.org/details/wiki-lptwikicom and the big stuff https://archive.org/details/wiki-pcgamingwikicom |
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05:30
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godane |
i also just found a podcast called hacker pubic radio |
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05:42
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JRWR |
godane and its not on ia |
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05:42
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JRWR |
Sounds like a project! |
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05:45
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DFJustin |
I haven't used it yet |
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05:45
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DFJustin |
would need to adapt it to upload already-downloaded things rather than pulling fresh |
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05:46
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odie5533_ |
Do you upload every podcast you find? |
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05:49
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JRWR |
Why not? |
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05:54
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godane |
i will work on tech report podcast for the moment |
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05:55
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godane |
the hacker pubic radio is released in mp3, spx and ogg |
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05:55
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godane |
i'm grabbing the mp3 version since archive.org will make a ogg of that |
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05:55
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odie5533_ |
JRWR: Sounds like a lot of work for stuff that's usually pretty low quality... but if you want to, I wouldn't stop you |
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05:58
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JRWR |
well this is odd |
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05:58
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JRWR |
Why does the wiki teams batch downloader do POST on images |
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05:59
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JRWR |
that breaks NGINX |
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05:59
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odie5533_ |
What do you mean? |
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05:59
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JRWR |
2607:5300:60:ad1::1 - - [24/Oct/2013:01:52:53 -0400] [pcgamingwiki.com] "POST /images/2/2e/Zen_Puzzle_Garden_cover.png HTTP/1.0" 405 166 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0" |
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06:00
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odie5533_ |
That's bad. |
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06:00
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odie5533_ |
What are you using to dump the wiki? |
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06:00
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JRWR |
https://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/source/browse/trunk/dumpgenerator.py |
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06:00
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odie5533_ |
Who wrote it? |
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06:00
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odie5533_ |
wow that's a long script. |
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06:01
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JRWR |
look at the reversions |
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06:01
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odie5533_ |
nemo and emijrp |
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06:02
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odie5533_ |
line 671 |
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06:02
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JRWR |
line 671/1195 |
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06:02
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odie5533_ |
perhaps |
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06:02
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odie5533_ |
JRWR: What command did you use? |
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06:04
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JRWR |
launcher.py wiki.txt |
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06:04
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godane |
whats funny is that episode 1364 of hacker pubic radio talks about vintage tech icon pay phone coin box |
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06:04
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JRWR |
https://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/source/browse/trunk/batchdownload/launcher.py |
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06:05
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godane |
i will go after the website for stuff thats not .org, spx, and mp3 just so we have the other stuff |
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06:07
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odie5533 |
so the launcher.py calls the dumpgenerator.py? |
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06:07
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odie5533 |
crazy. |
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06:07
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JRWR |
Yep |
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06:07
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JRWR |
its meant for a big ol list of wikis |
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06:08
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odie5533 |
JRWR: well |
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06:09
🔗
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odie5533 |
for a quick fix, just delete the ", data=...") stuff |
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06:09
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odie5533 |
so that the line reads: urllib.urlretrieve(url=url, filename='%s/%s' % (imagepath, filename2)) |
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06:09
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odie5533 |
might break other stuff though! :D |
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06:10
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odie5533 |
but that code is hacking since he's overriding urllib internals. bad bad bad! But I've done similar stuff before heh |
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06:11
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Lord_Nigh |
http://bap.ece.cmu.edu/download/bap-0.8/ was released on oct 17 and taken down on oct 22; unsure why; it was also stored at a git repo at https://github.com/cmubap/bap which was taken down simultaneously; i'm in communications with someone who has a checkout of that git |
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06:11
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Lord_Nigh |
there is some lawyer related crap why it was taken down |
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06:11
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JRWR |
oh my |
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06:11
🔗
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JRWR |
sounds like a bittorrent mirror is in order |
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06:11
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Lord_Nigh |
exactly |
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06:12
🔗
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JRWR |
ill be happy to seed it for some time :) |
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06:12
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odie5533 |
don't these lawyers know that code wants to be free? :) |
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06:13
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Lord_Nigh |
especially since the 0.7 code is still up at http://bap.ece.cmu.edu/download/bap-0.7/ though it looks like it may have been modified when everything else was taken down |
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06:13
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odie5533 |
listing: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://bap.ece.cmu.edu/download/bap-0.8/&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&gws_rd=cr&ei=TLpoUuKaC8v5kQfvpoBY |
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06:14
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JRWR |
damn, who thought it was a good idea to do POSTs to get data |
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06:14
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Lord_Nigh |
the code WAS released as gplv2... so once i get a copy i'm pretty sure i'm allowed to further distribute it... |
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06:14
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odie5533 |
JRWR: looks like it was done to fix the GET not working oddly enough |
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06:14
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odie5533 |
Lord_Nigh: sort of. |
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06:14
🔗
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JRWR |
lol |
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06:14
🔗
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odie5533 |
Not if it's illegal code |
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06:14
🔗
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JRWR |
ill watch the logs |
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06:15
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Lord_Nigh |
afaik its not illegal |
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06:15
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odie5533 |
If it's illegal to begin with, and they had no right to release it, then you have no right either |
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06:15
🔗
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Lord_Nigh |
true |
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06:15
🔗
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JRWR |
dat user agent |
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06:16
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odie5533 |
JRWR: yeah, I'm not sure why they didn't just use URLopenerUserAgent().retriever(...) |
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06:16
🔗
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odie5533 |
*retrieve |
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06:16
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JRWR |
sounds like a rewrite is in order |
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06:17
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odie5533 |
Perhaps just a fix. If it were rewritten, I'd say change from urllib to Twisted. |
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06:17
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JRWR |
also, I noticed its border line a DoS |
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06:18
🔗
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JRWR |
it spams the fuck out of the webserver |
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06:18
🔗
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odie5533 |
that's not good. |
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06:18
🔗
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odie5533 |
also, it looks like the _urlopener, while looking a bit hackish, is actually recommended by the API docs. |
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06:18
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JRWR |
same network, im getting 40req/s |
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06:19
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odie5533 |
with Twisted I always use delays and set a max number of requests |
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06:19
🔗
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JRWR |
I dont mind, but adding random requests and maybe some better user agents would work |
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06:19
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odie5533 |
JRWR: What is it doing, exactly? You give it a list of image urls? |
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06:19
🔗
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JRWR |
no |
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06:20
🔗
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JRWR |
it dumps the ENTIRE contents of a wiki |
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06:20
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JRWR |
XML + Images |
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06:21
🔗
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odie5533 |
First does XML right? |
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06:21
🔗
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JRWR |
Yes |
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06:21
🔗
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JRWR |
uses the API to pull it all |
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06:22
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odie5533 |
Do you do a lot of wiki archiving? |
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06:22
🔗
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JRWR |
I own a Very LARGE wiki farm |
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06:22
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odie5533 |
What does that mean? |
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06:22
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JRWR |
and I hate messing with the database, my caches love me :) |
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06:23
🔗
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JRWR |
and well, I broke my own dump scripts that they include with mediawiki |
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06:23
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JRWR |
even now im dumping a 2G XML file |
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06:25
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JRWR |
Yay! its working |
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06:25
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|
JRWR |
all 2200 images |
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06:30
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JRWR |
oh god FTLWiki is Huge |
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06:38
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JRWR |
ah, thats more like it https://archive.org/details/wiki-pcgamingwikicom |
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06:39
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Nemo_bis |
odie5533: no, only emijrp; I just do some small changes |
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06:40
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Nemo_bis |
JRWR: what do you mean that it breaks nginx? |
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06:40
🔗
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JRWR |
it 405s on "true" files |
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06:40
🔗
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JRWR |
if you try and do a POST on them |
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06:40
🔗
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Nemo_bis |
perhaps we should try both then |
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06:41
🔗
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JRWR |
I would try GETs first, then POSTs |
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06:41
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Nemo_bis |
apparently POST was used because in some cases GET requests didn't work, according to the comment |
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06:41
🔗
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Nemo_bis |
yeah, sure; wanna submit a patch? :) |
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06:41
🔗
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JRWR |
uhhh..... me + python = bwhahah |
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06:54
🔗
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godane |
this sucks |
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06:54
🔗
|
godane |
looks like there is already a collection |
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06:55
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|
godane |
but it was done badly and out of date |
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06:55
🔗
|
godane |
this is about hacker pubic radio |
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06:57
🔗
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godane |
i may have redo the first two items i have uploaded |
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06:57
🔗
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godane |
add a _mp3 to item names just so they will upload |
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06:58
🔗
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godane |
some of the way this collection was done is sort of half ass |
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06:58
🔗
|
godane |
like this item: https://archive.org/details/hpr1282 |
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06:58
🔗
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odie5533 |
Nemo_bis: just do GET. Leave POST for if the GET didn't work someone can fix to that |
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06:58
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godane |
it should only be hpr1282 in it |
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06:58
🔗
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odie5533 |
I don't think POST should ever be the default behavior. |
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06:58
🔗
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godane |
but hpr1284 is also in it |
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07:00
🔗
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odie5533 |
Nemo_bis: have you read through all the code of dumpgenerator.py? Or have you only made tiny fixes to it>? |
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07:01
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Nemo_bis |
odie5533: yes, I guess I read it all at some point in time |
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07:02
🔗
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odie5533 |
aren't there other scripts to generate backups of medaiwiki sites? |
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07:03
🔗
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JRWR |
there are, but this set is very nice as it does all the heavy lifting for you when it works |
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07:04
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JRWR |
I just submitted three bugs |
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07:08
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odie5533 |
JRWR: It would probably help your issues if you gave the specific commands you used to reproduce the problem |
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07:08
🔗
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odie5533 |
"1. Do a normal API based Full XML+Image Dump using SVN Trunk " |
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07:11
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JRWR |
odie5533 added a comment |
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07:12
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odie5533 |
looks better |
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07:12
🔗
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odie5533 |
Is dumping wikis popular? |
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07:12
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odie5533 |
Or is dumping other stuff more popular? |
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07:12
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JRWR |
somewhat |
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07:13
🔗
|
JRWR |
its more common to find a wiki |
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07:13
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JRWR |
since mediawikis are easy to setup and allow for content to be stored |
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07:13
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JRWR |
I run PCGamingWiki.com (Their servers) and well 47k a day in visits is nice |
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07:28
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odie5533 |
JRWR: What do you use to view warc files? |
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07:36
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odie5533 |
http://www.magicthegatheringtactics.com/ is already down. I assume no one got a grab of it? |
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07:40
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godane |
odie5533: its not down for me |
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07:41
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odie5533 |
oh. won't load for me. someone should probably grab it since the game is shutting down |
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09:39
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odie5533 |
Does WARC support HTTP1.1? |
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09:41
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odie5533 |
I guess it does by splitting up the request/responses. |
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09:41
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odie5533 |
HTTP1.1 makes things more complicated... |
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12:05
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yipdw |
odie5533: so long as there's one or more responses to a given request, WARC/1.0 should be able to handle any such version of HTTP |
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12:06
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yipdw |
correction, zero or more responses per one request |
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12:06
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yipdw |
WARC will correctly capture a "no response received" situation |
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16:14
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DFJustin |
paging sketchcow / undersco2 - rsync to fos failing for lack of space on device |
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18:10
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undersco2 |
please bang on this and make sure you don't see any breakage or errors |
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18:10
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|
undersco2 |
http://archive.org/details/historicalsoftware |
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18:37
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phillipsj |
in-browser emulators? lynx won't touch it :P |
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18:39
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|
ats |
undersco2: it's a bit weird pointing at the Spectrum version of Elite -- isn't the BBC version (the original) in the archive? |
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18:39
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|
ats |
(Ian Bell actually recommends the NES version as the best 8-bit one...) |
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18:40
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undersco2 |
unsure, would be a SketchCow question |
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18:40
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|
undersco2 |
he picked the things |
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18:41
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DFJustin |
it's kind of pot luck currently as to what computer systems are working |
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18:42
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DFJustin |
bbc is in mess ought to work but there may be some silly issue with the compile |
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18:44
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|
* |
ats launches his Z80-equipped Cobra MkIII and goes for a spin |
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18:47
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touya |
new elite coming 2014, can't wait |
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18:51
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|
ats |
Spectrum, Apple ][ and Osborne I all seem to work OK for me, and the text looks good |
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18:53
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* |
ats idly ponders a "focus on British games" page along similar lines to point his students at... |
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19:42
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SketchCow |
Any weirdness, let me know |
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19:44
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SketchCow |
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApQeH7pQrcBWdDgtQmxhQS1ibEJua1JRYlJScWt2dWc&usp=sharing |
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19:57
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SketchCow |
So look. |
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19:57
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SketchCow |
I shifted data off the filling partition |
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20:02
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yipdw |
SketchCow: my coworkers saw that software archive, they love it |
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20:07
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SketchCow |
Great |
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20:46
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JRWR |
I might have a new peoject to do |
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20:46
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JRWR |
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/old-portrait-services-temporarily-re-enabled/ |
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20:47
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JRWR |
eve has re-enabled their old portrait server, Im already running a script right now that is brute forcing it, since the id for the avatar can be 1 ro 9000000 |
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20:47
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JRWR |
the old docs are here for it http://oldportraits.eveonline.com/ |
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20:47
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JRWR |
WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD |
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20:48
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SketchCow |
yahoosucks, good sir |
|
20:48
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SketchCow |
I have the greatest question ever. |
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20:48
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/VisiCalc_1979_SoftwareArts |
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20:48
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SketchCow |
I can't get it to do a second row of data |
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20:48
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SketchCow |
Any ideas? |
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20:53
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DFJustin |
there's probably an easier way but you can type >A2 |
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20:53
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DFJustin |
source https://archive.org/stream/atariusersguide00fyls#page/16/mode/2up |
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20:56
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deathy |
Nemo_bis: on hp ftp.. did a compression test on "hpdesignjet.zip" to see what's possible.. nothing much came out of it. "Compression Ratio: 1.010.", couple of hundred meg savings. Not useful at all to upload it I guess.. |
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21:04
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mistym |
SketchCow: Ha, I was *just* wondering the same thing |
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21:05
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mistym |
Oh huh, I entered something that made left/right do vertical scrolling instead |
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21:12
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Nemo_bis |
deathy: with what settings? |
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21:13
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Nemo_bis |
unless you have over 20 GB RAM, you'd need -U for that one :) |
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deathy |
Nemo_bis: ran with "-lU" since that's what you mentioned yesterday. Just got a server with 48 GB of ram today :) |
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JRWR |
I wonder if I should submit this project to the warriors |
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21:20
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JRWR |
this is taking forever, Ive got 9 million IDs to find |
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21:25
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Nemo_bis |
deathy: wow, so you don't even need to use -U :D how long did it take? maybe you can remove even -l |
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Nemo_bis |
I suspect the piping done by lrztar has worse effects than lrzip directly on a tar on disk |
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deathy |
Nemo_bis: 21 minutes for the lrzip. I actually unarchived, created a tar and then ran lrzip. Well..sleep now. Let me know if you want me to try it on any other big archives |
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Jacek |
JRWR, I'd imagine their servers can handle a nice number of connections. Got threading? |
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Nemo_bis |
deathy: impressive :) a test without -lU would be fun |
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Nemo_bis |
maybe that's the wrong testcase, it's possible there isn't as much duplication as in others |
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TSwift |
what if archive.org goes down |
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TSwift |
do we archive archive.org |
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21:46
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Nemo_bis |
TSwift: yes, for instance I ask people to mirror my https://archive.org/details/wikimediacommons collection; I'd also like to know more about the Alexandria mirror |
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Nemo_bis |
I wonder if some researcher is downloading huge datasets; usually the link to Internet2 is much less busy, iirc. https://monitor.archive.org/weathermap/weathermap.html Maybe someone I asked to mirror Commons files :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Internet_mirror_services |
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Nemo_bis |
Also fun: http://www.internet2.edu/news/pr/2013.04.24.first-100G-transcontinental-transmission-rande-link.html |
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DFJustin |
TSwift: http://blog.archive.org/2012/04/26/downloading-in-bulk-using-wget/ |
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TSwift |
cool, ty |
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21:49
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Nemo_bis |
also, while you're at it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16840995035 ;) |
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21:49
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DFJustin |
I've been meaning to write a gui leech tool with the new ia python stuff but someone will probably beat me to it |
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21:52
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Nemo_bis |
DFJustin: which new stuff? https://pypi.python.org/pypi/internetarchive (which has quite impressive stats btw) |
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21:56
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DFJustin |
that's the one |
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22:04
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JRWR |
update of the eve project atm: http://pcgamingwiki.com/eve |
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22:21
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dzne |
ugh, efnet seriously doesn't even partially mask people's IP address after all these years? |
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22:22
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touya |
never did, never will |
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22:29
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joepie91 |
^ likely accurate |
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22:35
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dzne |
the things that never change are never good things |
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22:56
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JRWR |
lol |
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23:08
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JRWR |
I like freenodes system |
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JRWR |
:) |
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23:08
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JRWR |
why are we not on freenode anyway? |
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SketchCow |
I like EFNet |
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balrog |
freenode is too structured for a band of rogue archivists :) |
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23:30
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JRWR |
man this is going to take forever, anyone have ideas? the eve online project im working on, I've contacted the devs with no response so far |
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JRWR |
here is the code Im using for the worker right now: http://hastebin.com/tonamaxovu.php |
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23:34
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dzne |
what problem are you having? |
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23:35
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JRWR |
its a image every 0.5 |
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JRWR |
the keyspace is 9 million |
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JRWR |
they close on the 28th, the server |
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JRWR |
0.5s |
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dzne |
like they're throttling your connection? |
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JRWR |
na, more like ccp being slow |
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dzne |
when you say "worker" does that mean you have a pool of multiple of those things going at once? |
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23:37
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JRWR |
its a IIS server with a backend to MSSQL (I think) |
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JRWR |
nope, just one ATM |
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JRWR |
didnt want to kill it, but I didnt expect for it to be this slow |
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dzne |
I'd run about 100 of those at once and see if that improves things :) |
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JRWR |
illl give that a try, I hope they dont get mad at me |
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dzne |
if they're closing down anyway... |
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dzne |
they probably won't care/notice |
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23:39
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dzne |
what's "ccp" ? |
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23:40
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dzne |
oh n/m |
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23:41
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dzne |
don't know much about the game :) |
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23:42
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JRWR |
its all good, CCP are reditors and I have already made a post |
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23:42
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JRWR |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1p5hrq/in_light_of_the_old_portrait_server_being_nuked/ |