| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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01:03
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joepie92 |
SketchCow; you will likely appreciate: http://devnull-as-a-service.com/home/ |
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01:22
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xmc |
c.f. RFC 863 |
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01:23
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xmc |
TCP and UDP port 9 |
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03:48
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Lord_Nigh |
if theres something asking for a nasty takedown and needs immediate mirroring, its this: http://blog.ioactive.com/2013/10/hacking-counterfeit-money-detector-for.html?m=1 |
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03:49
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Lord_Nigh |
i'm sure the company who made that thing he so gloriously tore the security illusion to bits on will want that article nuked |
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03:58
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yipdw |
Lord_Nigh: done |
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03:59
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SketchCow |
BELL CURVE |
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06:39
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Emcy |
isohunt.to |
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06:39
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Emcy |
honeypot? |
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06:40
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Emcy |
With the original isoHunt gone there is no simple way of comparing the new isoHuntΓ’ΒΒs database with the old one but the team behind the resurrection inform TorrentFreak that so far around 75% of isoHuntΓ’ΒΒs torrent database has been restored. |
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06:40
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Emcy |
how is that possible |
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06:43
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DFJustin |
we did download a lot of it |
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06:44
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Emcy |
nowhere near 75% |
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06:44
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Emcy |
and this is nothing to do with archive team in any case, apparently |
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06:47
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joepie92 |
who here used digitalocean for archiving again? |
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06:48
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joepie92 |
and no, not related to archiveteam |
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06:49
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joepie92 |
(re: isohunt) |
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09:06
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BiggieJon |
i have a few vps's on DO |
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09:07
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ryonaloli |
DO? |
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09:07
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BiggieJon |
digital ocean |
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09:07
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ryonaloli |
they're a hosting company? |
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09:07
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BiggieJon |
yes |
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09:08
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ryonaloli |
are they very good? |
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09:08
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BiggieJon |
not sure, I think thats why jopie92 was asking |
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09:09
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BiggieJon |
I havent seen any issues, but I have heard others have had issues with them |
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09:09
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joepie92 |
nah, was a diff reason |
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09:09
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joepie92 |
and no, they are not "very good" |
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09:09
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joepie92 |
from what I have picked up they are "okay" |
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09:09
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ryonaloli |
how come? |
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09:10
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joepie92 |
they have a poor security track record, and apparently their network isn't great either |
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09:10
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joepie92 |
as well as meh disk speeds for supposed SSD |
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09:10
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BiggieJon |
plese explain the security concern |
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09:10
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ryonaloli |
ah, that's pretty bad then |
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09:16
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joepie92 |
BiggieJon: panel compromises, not properly wiping disks after destroying a droplet (thus making it possible for customers to recover deleted data of other customers) |
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09:17
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joepie92 |
they had an issue where you could capture traffic of other VPSes also |
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09:17
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citruspi |
Is this Digital Ocean? |
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09:18
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ryonaloli |
how does that make them "okay"? more like almost criminally negligent |
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09:19
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BiggieJon |
heh, poor security is pretty much the norm in cheap vps hosting |
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09:19
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BiggieJon |
is there a "good" vps host we recommend ? |
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09:19
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ryonaloli |
does leaseweb do vpses? |
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09:20
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citruspi |
Yep - http://www.leaseweb.com/en/cloud-hosting/virtual-server |
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09:21
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ryonaloli |
are they any good for vpses? |
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09:21
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norbert79 |
hmm, now I start to think about moving my VPS too |
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09:22
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citruspi |
I'm not sure... I use Linode + Digital Ocean + Rack Servers above my bed |
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09:22
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ryonaloli |
what vps do you use? do? |
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09:22
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citruspi |
norbert79: Where are your VPS's now? |
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09:22
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norbert79 |
Dutch provider |
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09:22
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norbert79 |
XLSHosting |
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09:23
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ryonaloli |
what's a good fairly cheap but very secure/uncensored vps service? |
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09:23
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norbert79 |
I pay for 1 core 2 GBof RAM and 80 GiB of HDD space and 250 GiB of bandwith 23Γ’ΒΒ¬ monthly |
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09:23
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ryonaloli |
if anyone knows one |
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09:26
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ws2k3 |
Hello i was looking but where can i find the isohunt data from you archive? |
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09:27
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citruspi |
ws2k3: There's a working backup by another group at http://isohunt.to |
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09:27
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ws2k3 |
yeah i noticed that but i was more looking for the data itself |
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09:27
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citruspi |
Oh, I'm not sure... |
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09:27
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ryonaloli |
citruspi: is that backup full? |
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09:28
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ws2k3 |
as far as i know tyhe backup is not full no |
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09:28
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citruspi |
I believe all the torrents are there, but comments are missing |
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09:28
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citruspi |
I may be wrong though |
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09:28
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ryonaloli |
all comments and metadata? |
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09:28
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ws2k3 |
not sure |
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09:29
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citruspi |
> While there is still work to be done and bugs to be ironed out, things are well underway. The interface is completely familiar, with categories to browse on the left hand side as usual. Torrent pages appear as they previously did although the Γ’ΒΒtime addedΓ’ΒΒ box appears to show when the torrent was added to the new isoHunt site, not when it was added to the original isoHunt. |
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09:29
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ws2k3 |
but i was looking where i could download all the data that is recovered |
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09:29
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citruspi |
> User torrent comments are also absent but it at least seems possible that these might be recovered in a future update. Additionally, brand new torrents are also being added to the site so its usefulness will not only be limited to preserving the past. |
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09:29
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citruspi |
> so far around 75% of isoHuntΓ’ΒΒs torrent database has been restored. |
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09:30
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ws2k3 |
yeah but i was wondering where did they get that database |
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09:30
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ws2k3 |
the owner of isohunt.to |
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09:30
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ryonaloli |
maybe the owner of isohunt handed the data off to someone else |
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09:31
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citruspi |
ryonaloli: I don't think so |
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09:31
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ws2k3 |
what what i have readed thet did that based on all the data that has been pulled by all users |
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09:31
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ryonaloli |
pulled by users? |
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09:31
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ws2k3 |
http://torrentfreak.com/isohunt-resurrected-less-than-two-weeks-after-110-million-mpaa-deal-131029/ |
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09:31
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citruspi |
> This is it. We are shutting down isoHunt services a little early. I'm told there was this Internet archival team that wants to make historical copy of our .torrent files, I'm honoured that people thinks our site is worthy of historical preservation, but the truth is about 95% of those .torrent files can be found off Google regardless and mostly have been indexed from other BitTorrent sites in the first place. So I might as well do |
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09:31
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citruspi |
a proper send-off to you dear isoHunt users, before final shutdown sequence on Tuesday. |
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09:32
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citruspi |
- Owner of isoHunt |
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09:32
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citruspi |
I don't he would have give the database just for an archiving and restoration attempt... |
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09:32
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ryonaloli |
yeah, saw that. he also said "i'll be back" |
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09:32
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citruspi |
> I'll be backkk. |
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09:32
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ws2k3 |
so you think its the same people behind it ? |
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09:33
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citruspi |
Same people behind the original isoHunt and the new clone? Doubt it. |
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09:33
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ws2k3 |
if you douth is then how did they get the data |
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09:34
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citruspi |
I would imagine it was some other group doing the same thing that the Archive Team does... Scraping the site and downloading the files. Most likely, they started before the Archive Team and/or did faster. |
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09:34
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ws2k3 |
hmm |
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09:34
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ryonaloli |
or maybe they had it already done |
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09:34
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ryonaloli |
just in case it went down |
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09:35
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citruspi |
Yeah, but I feel like that would be a pain in the neck... You'd have to keep going over the whole site to check for new torrents and new comments on existing torrents. |
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09:35
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citruspi |
I'd rather just do it once |
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09:37
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ryonaloli |
maybe they had a complete copy from a while ago, then when it was shutting down then only updated the new torrents |
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09:37
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citruspi |
Maybe so... |
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09:51
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ws2k3 |
well its a nice job they doing thats for sure |
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11:20
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joepie92 |
to reiterate |
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11:21
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joepie92 |
archiveteam is NOT involved in these new 'isohunt replacements' |
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11:48
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joepie92 |
are we archiving pastebin yet? |
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11:52
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ryonaloli |
can pastebin even be archived? |
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11:52
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ersi |
Of course. |
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11:52
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citruspi |
technically? I'm pretty sure |
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11:52
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citruspi |
is is feasible/easy to do? not entirely |
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11:52
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citruspi |
actually, scratch that |
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11:52
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ersi |
We've done unfeasible things before |
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11:52
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citruspi |
It'd be pretty simple |
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11:53
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godane |
technically anything can be archived with a big enough hard drive |
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11:53
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ryonaloli |
no, i mean, aren't pastes unlisted by default? |
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11:55
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citruspi |
they are? |
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11:55
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citruspi |
Nope |
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11:55
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citruspi |
Paste Exposure is Public by default |
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11:55
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citruspi |
ryonaloli ^ |
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11:55
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ryonaloli |
oh |
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11:58
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joepie92 |
frontpage has the last X pastebin posts |
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11:58
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joepie92 |
with a watcher thread and a downloader thread, that should be feasible... |
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11:58
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citruspi |
latest public posts... |
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11:58
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joepie92 |
yes, that's what I meant |
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11:58
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joepie92 |
:P |
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11:59
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citruspi |
That's what I was thinking... Two scripts, one to archive existing ones and one to archive new ones as they get made |
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11:59
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citruspi |
I figured as much |
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12:00
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citruspi |
That's actually why I logged in... I was wondering if I could help with any of the manual projects. But if you're planning on archiving PasteBin, I'd love to get in on that. I actually wrote a pastebin package for Python a couple of months ago |
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12:00
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citruspi |
When I say logged in, I mean hopped on the IRC... |
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15:05
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joepie92 |
archiveteam@croissant:~/pastebin-scrape$ ./start.py |
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15:05
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joepie92 |
pastebin-scrape is now running. Run `python retrieve.py` to add additional retrieval workers. |
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15:05
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joepie92 |
and now we wait |
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19:21
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joepie92 |
We have temporarily blocked you from accessing our website because we have detected that you are browsing the site a little fast. The block usually lasts about 1 hour. Next time, please go easy on us. |
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19:21
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joepie92 |
grrrr |
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20:50
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S[h]O[r]T |
there are a lot of people who have private pastebin archivesin the security community |