[00:34] OK, who wants to help with a boring yet intriguing project. [00:34] Basically, I'm about to put up many, many items up into the archive for JSMESS and the Historical Software archive. [00:37] I'm just about to hit the bed, sorry :\ [00:38] If you want in, it's #livingroom. [00:39] If this is a more long term thing then I might help, I'll start by lurking [00:39] At least a few weeks, likely a month plus. [00:41] ah, right [00:46] hey SketchCow [00:46] mind if i tap the hivemind in here for some prior art? [00:47] Sure, although I find your use of this channel never seems to be quite the right place. [00:47] But I am all for you shaking trees all over. [00:48] well, i can't think of any other channels where people would know about old softwarre [00:48] Is this the EFF thing? [00:48] it's hard to find software historians [00:48] The podcast thing? [00:48] Or another? [00:48] no, it's Museum stuff [00:48] Ah, well, go ahead. [00:48] but it is invalidating software patents with prior art [00:48] well, i'm looking for an interface where you click on a UI item, and a set of other buttons come up. You then mouse to the other buttons, and let go of the button to select your choice [00:49] like FPS circular gun choice menus on 360 shooters [00:49] needs to be prior to 1997 [00:50] also looking for prior to 1997, a system for notifications of communication from various bandwidth levels and sources, that can show the notificaitons in an ordered list that can be reordered [00:50] there's #classiccmp on freenode [00:51] VonCloud: sounds like pie menus, which were iirc a thing pre-1997 [00:51] the ui thing sounds pretty analogous to classic mac menus [00:52] oh? [00:52] nice channel! [00:53] yeah i was thinking that DFJustin [00:58] I feel like point and click graphic adventure games would be a good place to check but I can't think of one offhand [01:04] VonCloud: that sounds like an obvious extension of mac os 5 style [01:04] VonCloud: that sounds like an obvious extension of mac os 5 style menus [01:04] 5,6,7, where you had to hold the click [01:15] Open Look supported hold-drag-release for its menus too: http://cmd.inp.nsk.su/old/cmd2/manuals/unix/slu/html/ch24.htm#Heading22 [01:16] that's what, 1988? [01:17] trying to remember if RISC OS had the same convention with its middle mouse-button for menus, or if it was click-and-select [01:33] VonCloud: should probably point out that on many Linux-ish things, this has afaik been a possibility for quite some time now (right click, move to item, release) [01:34] not sure since when [02:30] VonCloud: Maya's done something like that for a while [02:30] although the action menu can be summoned with spacebar, too [02:34] There were some adventure games you held things down on. [02:34] Discworld game? [03:49] hmmm [03:49] god damn sketchcow, your people come through again [03:49] that adventure game thing is great [04:34] unfortunately you can't tell from youtube if it's a click and hold or a multiple click [05:16] what's the status on winamp forum archiving? [05:54] adventure game thing, VonCloud? [06:27] patent invalidation [06:27] turns out, full throttle invalidates a patent! [06:29] hehe [06:40] the bandwidth level one I don't really understand your description [06:45] also how did you zero in on full throttle, out of curiosity [06:46] never did play that one myself although I have a lucasarts magazine spread on it around here somewhere [12:04] VonCloud: now that you mention Full Throttle fits the description, Curse of Monkey Island might also fit- it came out in 1997, and definitely had the click, menu pops up, select something, let go [18:41] http://pnacl-amiga-emulator.appspot.com/ [20:03] any news of new dying sites? [20:15] http://www.reddit.com/r/shutdown [20:19] nice list [20:37] hmm, hard to parse some of those sites [20:38] looking at do.com - trying to figure out if they actually hosted content [20:39] thank you ivan!! [20:39] if there is content, it seems to be all private [20:39] ivan`* [20:40] i will try do download as many as I can from that... :) [20:40] today already did like 40 dutch websites from new bankrupties... [20:40] nice - http://www.reddit.com/r/shutdown/comments/1pg9ov/metaish_you_can_now_manually_save_pages_in/ [20:42] hmm [20:42] shall we create a list on the archiveteam wiki were we keep track of those websites? [20:43] we have the projects page - http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Projects [20:43] yeah [20:43] but it is almost never updated [20:43] well [20:44] I'll start working on that list tomorrow [20:44] issues with a volumteer based group [20:44] I'll keep track of the webistes from that reddit shutdown page [20:44] and from other websites [20:45] and then people can write their names behind it and the status of their download if they are downloading the website [20:45] what do you think of that? [20:47] gotta go now [20:47] :) [20:47] will do those things tomorrow [20:47] and hope it'll all work out well [20:47] :D