#archiveteam 2014-02-12,Wed

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00:12 ๐Ÿ”— godane what does the internet archive use to download google books
00:13 ๐Ÿ”— godane i'm looking at a google books downloader so i can complete my infoworld download
00:24 ๐Ÿ”— godane the google book grab is not working
00:25 ๐Ÿ”— godane ok looks like it may just be that book
01:06 ๐Ÿ”— Cameron_D http://pastebin.com/B6RiEqev
01:51 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw arkiver: yes; for individual pages, use a browser engine and a proxy to capture the request/responses
01:51 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw https://github.com/odie5533/WarcMITMProxy is one such proxy
02:52 ๐Ÿ”— dashcloud I finally finished my grab of www.dreamlandbbs.com , and when I started it, I had each .warc file stop at 1 GB- is that going to be a problem if I upload 73 warcs?
03:43 ๐Ÿ”— godane no
03:44 ๐Ÿ”— godane i have seen items that have a few 100 files without any problems
03:45 ๐Ÿ”— godane and the only derive is making is cdx and idx files of the warc.gz
03:51 ๐Ÿ”— xmc yeah, deriver can chew on as many files as you want
04:31 ๐Ÿ”— dashcloud thanks!
06:05 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow ON AVERAGE, one of the Dogster packs has 30,000 users
06:53 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow http://boltagain.ning.com/page/bolt3-closing-down-1
06:53 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Bolt is closing down.
06:53 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Wow, they are doing it QUICK.
07:06 ๐Ÿ”— RedType i feel like they're thinking "And nothing of value was lost."
07:06 ๐Ÿ”— RedType because of all of the trolls
07:09 ๐Ÿ”— Atluxity never heard of Bolt
07:11 ๐Ÿ”— quijibo good community if your first memory after 5 years is "two separate moderator civil wars"
07:19 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver yipdw: Thank you, I tried that progra but every time I want to install MITMProxy I get an error about ssleay32.dll
07:19 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver :/
07:19 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver I tried a lot and nothing worked...
07:19 ๐Ÿ”— ivan` did you install 32-bit and 64-bit OpenSSL for Windows?
07:19 ๐Ÿ”— ivan` (don't know which one you need for that)
07:20 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver well
07:20 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver ehm I never installed openssl?
07:21 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver I didn't knew that was needed...
07:21 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver I'll do it now
07:28 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver no... Still now working...
07:28 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver still getting the ssleay32.dll is issing error
07:28 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver but it is in the openssl bin folder
07:28 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver lib folder*
09:22 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver what I'doing now:
09:22 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver go to facebook/twitter page
09:22 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver load as any scroll down pages as possible
09:22 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver go to the cache
09:23 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver get all the urls fro the scroll down pages, example: https://twitter.com/i/profiles/show/Polare/timeline?include_available_features=1&include_entities=1&last_note_ts=0&max_id=263340143895801855
09:24 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver facebook example: https://www.facebook.com/ajax/pagelet/generic.php/ProfileTimelineSectionPagelet?no_script_path=1&data=%7B%22profile_id%22%3A535305456508224%2C%22start%22%3A1357027200%2C%22end%22%3A1388563199%2C%22query_type%22%3A8%2C%22section_pagelet_id%22%3A%22pagelet_timeline_year_last%22%2C%22load_immediately%22%3Afalse%2C%22force_no_friend_activity%22%3Afalse%7D&__user=0&__a=1&__dyn=7wKzS10Ax-7o8UhACGeGEmBWpU&__req=jsonp_3&__rev=1119147&__adt=3
09:24 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver Then I'm putting all those links into Heritrix
09:24 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver and Heritrix downloads them together with all the nearest links...
09:24 ๐Ÿ”— arkiver Hopefully that will work...
11:28 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis It's working! https://twitter.com/YahooVictims
11:40 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow What IS that about, by the way.
11:41 ๐Ÿ”— Atluxity we got an arch-enemy
11:44 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis SketchCow: you asked to monitor some wiki pages and news...
11:47 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis Suggestions for name and whatever appreciated, I just set up some RSS -> Twitter feeds because it's easier done than said
11:51 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow No, it's fine, it's just kind of aggressive, just wanted to know what we're up to.
11:51 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I'm obviously fine with aggression
11:56 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis :P
12:31 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK have to agree, dont use firefox then
12:35 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I work with all the browsers because of JSMESS
12:38 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK i cant even use javascript now, my laptop has broken filesystem and i am booted from LAN to ms dos with ssh emulation, so im using text based stuff only now
13:06 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK does anyone have list of what iles are in the The Devil's Doorknob BBS from 1996?
13:06 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK files*
13:07 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Really.
13:07 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow You're really asking that.
13:07 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow So, back in 1983, there was a girl I liked. How's she doing?
13:07 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK theres no txt file with it here https://archive.org/details/Devils_Doorknob_BBS_Capture_1996_2006
13:08 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK the others mostly have txt files with the file list
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow https://archive.org/details/cdrom-devilsdoorknobbbscapture1996-2003
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow https://archive.org/details/Devils_Doorknob_BBS_Capture_1996_2003
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow https://archive.org/download/Devils_Doorknob_BBS_Capture_1996_2003/Devils_Doorknob_BBS_Capture_1996_2003.zip/ gives you the list.
13:13 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow In related news:
13:13 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow We had someone who's been on here for 3 years storm off because in a private message he gave me a question, and I gave a Jason Scott answer.
13:13 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow And he announced he was blocking me and fuuuuuuck you.
13:14 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Anyway, the moral of the story is: come the fuck on
13:14 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I only mention because I see he quit here.
13:15 ๐Ÿ”— SadDM to be fair, you *can* be pretty abraisive at times
13:15 ๐Ÿ”— SadDM "Jason Scott answer" in 3... 2... 1...
13:15 ๐Ÿ”— SadDM :-)
13:15 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow SUPER abraisve
13:15 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow World fuckin' class
13:16 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Top ten michelin stars
13:16 ๐Ÿ”— * SadDM chuckles
13:16 ๐Ÿ”— SadDM the fact that you're so self-aware helps though
13:16 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow It helps nothing.
13:16 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Still stings you in the little dainty man-purse
13:17 ๐Ÿ”— midas err k
13:18 ๐Ÿ”— midas isnt archiveteam a "Fuck you, we are going to do it anyway" state of mind?
13:18 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Yes.
13:18 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow But we attract two types of people.
13:18 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Thick-skinned powernerds dedicated to preservation at all costs
13:19 ๐Ÿ”— midas so if it's going to be fuck you and we are going to do it, you better have that mindset and dont be a tool about it
13:19 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow layabout aspies who are seeking to be a part of a greater thing without really committing
13:19 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow The second ones usually wash out within 2 hours
13:19 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow This one took longer.
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— midas my guess it took you 3 years to check if he/she had that mindset ;-)
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— midas most of the time it kinda works quick if they get a Jason (tm) anwser in the 2 hours they are here
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Others do it too
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow As it should be.
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow We're getting shit done
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— midas btw, do you actually sleep sometimes? you are here 24/7.
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— SadDM Maybe this guy can start an archiveteam ladies auxillary
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— midas burnnnnn ;-)
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I've got FOS downloading thingiverse, a massive portugese FTP site, grabbing the dogster crap, taking in the archivebot, and shoving in databases.
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Also, it'd be more of a tragedy if he did anything.
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow He did not.
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK huh? who are you talking about
13:25 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Shia Lebouf
13:25 ๐Ÿ”— midas worst actor EVER
13:25 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK ...
13:25 ๐Ÿ”— midas and the most shitty skywriter, cant archive sky
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Skychive
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— midas tried it once, almost suffocated in the amount of work...
13:27 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow http://gadgetsin.com/uploads/2011/04/airship_elizabeth_steampunk_handbag_1.jpg
13:27 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis cUh http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/shia-labeouf-announces-retirement-from-public-life-after-plagiarism-scandal-sparks-bizarre-apology-spree-9051553.html
13:27 ๐Ÿ”— midas however, you can compress it pritty well, it's a breeze
13:28 ๐Ÿ”— midas ok, im going to stop this, it's not -bs here and i want to keep the sky clean here.
14:17 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow We all just want a hug.
15:04 ๐Ÿ”— midas "free hugs, but only if you archive your website!"
17:02 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 midas: when SketchCow sleeps, FOS is being awake in his place
17:13 ๐Ÿ”— chfoo someone left me a message: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Chfoo&oldid=18518 . also http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:Current_Projects&oldid=18516
17:17 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis chfoo: people are really in love with mediafire, I'll never understand why. Can you download the file from it?
17:18 ๐Ÿ”— chfoo i never looked at it yet. i was hoping someone would do it for me
17:37 ๐Ÿ”— garyrh chfoo, it looks like it's a httrack crawl for ms.nintendo-europe.com/dkc
17:44 ๐Ÿ”— chfoo hmm, alright. i guess i will take a look at it later and upload it on behalf. not sure why they didn't upload it themselves though.
18:03 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis most people are astonished when they learn they can upload stuff to archive.org
18:03 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis After all, most people are astonished even when they learn they can edit a wiki OOOOOH
18:03 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK no
18:04 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK that's a very different thing
18:04 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis I'm not saying it's the same, only that I see the same pattern when I tell people "do it yourself"
18:06 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK i was surprised myself tht you can upload stuff these days like the shareware cd dumps, in fact when i told that to some people that it's there they were very very surprised, especially ones that used to be active in the warez scene etc
18:06 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK but editing wiki is a given i think, i mean thats the point of the wiki
18:07 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis Sure. Technically, uploading the stuff ArchiveTeam uploads is prohibited in clear letters by the IA terms of use. :)
18:08 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis But that's not what stops most people, copyright paranoia is not so widespread outside Wikimedia. :P
18:09 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK yea i guess so, well i hope people continue uploading some rare cds still, waiting for the day the voodoo cds and number fate will be there i guess especially
18:11 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis One would think that in this period of general economical crisis many would get tons of such stuff out of their cellars to get some dollars at the local flea market
18:12 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK i guess most of the stuff contained is "trash" or useless, but there are sometimes rarities among it, aside those early leaks of stuff like unreal, some other programs and tools that got lost meanwhile, i know of few other people looking for that
18:12 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK hmm
18:12 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK i used to buy in the 90s pirated stuff from the vietnamese
18:13 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis I spent a few hundreds euros on the online flea markets of Italy but they're not as cheap as I'd like
18:13 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis Tons of idiots going "hey I paid this issue 4 รขย‚ยฌ now 20 years later I want at least 1"
18:14 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK lol
18:15 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK well but thanks to those guys i got acess to some carttirdges etc that werent sold in europe, games on the famicon/nes and some rare games/hacks
18:15 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK they even had that "somari" thing, yes, i did buy it
18:15 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK look it up if you want
18:15 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin all the old cds are worthwhile imo, maybe when they came out they were worthless cause you could get all the same stuff online, but now 15+ years later a lot of stuff is hard to find or not available
18:16 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK i believe there were even some videos on ytube i saw years back, with guys cursing this game out
18:19 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis Leo_TCK: you ripped them yourself?
18:22 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK afraid not, most of my cartridges are with my grandparent place
18:22 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK stored
18:22 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK i didnt hae the equipment to rip them anyway
18:23 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK though my version of somari differed a bit from the rom that is avail around
18:23 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK so perhaps one day when i get back there
18:23 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK i can do something about it
20:40 ๐Ÿ”— midas i found a cd back some time ago, got 15 hours of internets on it.
20:40 ๐Ÿ”— midas i think joepie91 archived one with 60 hours of internet on it
20:40 ๐Ÿ”— midas in .nl it was normal to ship internets to someone by cd
20:41 ๐Ÿ”— midas (we smoke alot of pot)
20:45 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 midas: I did not
20:45 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 but you should archive that CD
20:46 ๐Ÿ”— midas wow, i thought you already archived that
20:46 ๐Ÿ”— midas anyway, yeah. it's here somewhere
20:46 ๐Ÿ”— midas wanadoo cd i think
20:47 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 <Nemo_bis>most people are astonished when they learn they can upload stuff to archive.org
20:47 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 I have noticed this also
20:48 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 midas: I'm _looking_ for these kind of CDs
20:48 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 but haven't found any
20:48 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and I destroyed / repurposed my old stack of them as frisbees years ago
20:48 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 :(
20:48 ๐Ÿ”— midas even better when people understand they can see stuff at archive.org, it's like they are reborn
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— midas joepie91: ill start searching for cd's this weekend i think
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 midas: :D
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 also, the usual offer is still open
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— midas i hope.., you saw the jason room pictures right?
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 if you have old CDs with crap on it and you're too lazy to image them, send them to me :P
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 well if you're in NL anyway
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 because for the price of international shipping you might as well rent a private jet and come deliver them in person
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 midas: yes
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— midas yeah :p
20:50 ๐Ÿ”— midas well, think of that room, and put a bomb in it.
20:50 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis joepie91: oh, can I?
20:50 ๐Ÿ”— midas and fill the bomb with CD's, keycords, businesscards, random stuff
20:50 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis joepie91: do you also scan magazines?
20:51 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 Nemo_bis: yes, but that is more or less on hiatus until I get a decent A3 scanner
20:51 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 I do scan them, but very very slowly
20:51 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and occasionally
20:52 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 midas: and then you have your room? :D
20:52 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis Hm. Well let me know if you run out of material.
20:52 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis joepie91: how fast are you with CDs?
20:52 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 Nemo_bis: will do, but I also have a habit of roaming around the streets on paper trash collection day and taking home boxes of magazines... :P
20:52 ๐Ÿ”— midas joepie91: more or less yeah
20:52 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 Nemo_bis: fast
20:52 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 I've optimized/automated it quite a bit
20:53 ๐Ÿ”— midas i had friends who compared my office space to 5 seconds after the hiroshima bomb.
20:53 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 home-made CD label scanning sleeve for faster scanning, both scanning and imaging scripted - effectively a while True: # wait for return key loop
20:53 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis joepie91: sounds cost effective, wouldn't work here because we have per-address bins and weekly collection
20:54 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 yeah, that'd be a problem
20:54 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 the place where I live - the city center anyway - just has off-the-street collection
20:54 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 on collection day you put boxes with paper / cardboard crap outside
20:54 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and they drive by and pick it up
20:54 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 which is a sensible strategy when you consider that most houses here don't have space for a front lawn, let alone a collection bin
20:55 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 but it also makes it very easy to take home boxes of reading materials :)
20:55 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and, as opposed to grocery store dumpsterdiving and large trash scouring, nobody gives a damn
20:55 ๐Ÿ”— midas ah yes, our famous kliko system
20:55 ๐Ÿ”— midas kliko's suck, i fell in one once.
20:56 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 lol
20:56 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 life long hatred against kliko's
20:56 ๐Ÿ”— midas yeah
20:56 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 midas: we don't have those here in the city center though... just electronic RFID card (wtf?) central collection bins for general trash
20:56 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and off-the-street pickup for paper and plastic (wtf?)
20:57 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 plastic pickup is like twice a month, too (??!???!?!)
20:57 ๐Ÿ”— midas fyi, i smoke. yes, people hate me for it and think i should be shot for smoking. i dont care. what happened is that someone threw away my carton of smokes.
20:57 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 perhaps you can tell that we have a very wacky waste collection system here...
20:57 ๐Ÿ”— midas i like the plastic pickup system.
20:58 ๐Ÿ”— midas too bad i have a garage full of stuff + plasic bags full of plastic now
20:58 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK i hate those RFID trash cans it once got stuck and i kicked it and stuff and
20:59 ๐Ÿ”— midas we have RFID trashcans?
20:59 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK tried to open it multiple times with the card and wasted four times on nothing, and it can only take so much
21:00 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 midas: sadly, yes, we do
21:00 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK and you have to do per one big plastic bag
21:00 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 in Dordrecht we do
21:00 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 fucking awful things
21:00 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 broken half of the time
21:00 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 full the other half
21:00 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and you get fined when you put bags next to the bin
21:00 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK yes like i'm saying too, since i started living in.nl
21:00 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 where the fuck do you need to put them otherwise, seriously
21:01 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 (they will actually cut open your bags, and look for anything with your address on it, to figure out who put the bag there, and then deliver a fine to you... I am not kidding)
21:01 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK and they also see each time you use the trash can in the municipal building
21:01 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 Leo_TCK: they do not -yet- charge by the use here (the collection bins), but it's almost certain that that's going to happen in not too long
21:01 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 there is no other reason to replace the cardless bins with card-requiring bins
21:02 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK this is card requiring one
21:02 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 (of course the cardless bins -never- broke down - they were fully mechanical)
21:02 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK the one i use
21:02 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 Leo_TCK: where do you live?
21:02 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK but they do subtract from it the money per use
21:02 ๐Ÿ”— xmc woop woop woop off-topic siren
21:02 ๐Ÿ”— xmc take it to #archiveteam-bs
21:02 ๐Ÿ”— Leo_TCK ok
21:03 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 oh, I thought this was -bs, haha
21:03 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 sorry
21:03 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Yeah, I was going to say.

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