#archiveteam 2014-06-03,Tue

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06:00 🔗 bugzee http://www.tropicalwikis.com/ is no longer endangered for it is now extinct
06:00 🔗 bugzee it's on the page of List of Wikifarms
06:01 🔗 bugzee but it's still listed as endangered, and on it's page is not yet updated
06:02 🔗 bugzee also I want to participate in the wiki, so um, what forsooth prithee tell me the secret word please?
06:03 🔗 exmic yahoosucks
06:04 🔗 exmic go forth and edit
06:05 🔗 bugzee haha, yahoo does suck
06:08 🔗 bugzee err, is the server's time screwed up? it says it's *:53 when it's actually *:08
06:11 🔗 exmic probably
06:14 🔗 bugzee jeez, did a netsplit occur or something?
06:15 🔗 exmic yeah
06:15 🔗 godane i think
06:15 🔗 exmic about an hour ago
06:41 🔗 bugzee I sure hope encyclopedia dramatica can keep up, all that's been responding for months now is their cloudflare saying it can't connect
06:42 🔗 bugzee or else were stuck with the january 2010 archive on pirate bay
07:08 🔗 Kniffy ED is trying to raise money for it or something
07:10 🔗 bugzee yeah, I went to WTFuxNet/#ed, the topic was 'Down, "working" on it'
07:11 🔗 bugzee also the archiveteam wiki page for ED is way out of date, I cleaned it up a bit
07:24 🔗 Nemo_bis thanks bugzee
07:24 🔗 bugzee yw :) I really want to participate in this cause as much as possible, I'll try to be really active
08:41 🔗 X-Scale http://www.nycresistor.com/2014/06/02/get-lamp/
14:22 🔗 SketchCow 2014_03_Canvas_Grab: uploading canvas-megawarc.megawarc.json.gz: [################################] 2/2 - 00:00:00
14:22 🔗 SketchCow Finally
14:22 🔗 SketchCow uploading canvas-megawarc.megawarc.warc.gz: [############################ ] 23853/26933 - 00:02:26
14:25 🔗 SketchCow 2014_03_Canvas_Grab
14:51 🔗 SadDM Done reading the last 2000 Diplomacy zines that I uploaded?
14:51 🔗 SadDM Good news then... there's another 1200+ going up *right now*!
14:52 🔗 SadDM https://archive.org/search.php?query=uploader%3A%22aeakett%40gmail.com%22%20AND%20subject%3A%22dipzine%22
15:02 🔗 SketchCow Excellent.
15:04 🔗 Nemo_bis ArchiveTeam is so diplomatic.
15:07 🔗 SketchCow SadDM: Shouldn't these be in a collection?
15:36 🔗 SadDM Probably... yeah.
15:39 🔗 SadDM The truth is that there's a fair bit of my stuff that could be grouped into collections.
15:40 🔗 SadDM If you made a collection could I move them into it myself, or would you have to?
15:41 🔗 Nemo_bis SadDM: you can move your own items in a collection you're admin of
15:41 🔗 Nemo_bis You can't move your items in a collection you don't admin, or others' items in a collection you admin
15:42 🔗 Smiley someone grab http://www.belowgotham.com/ODE-TO-MIKE-ROGERS.pdf
15:42 🔗 Smiley http://www.belowgotham.com/OTMR-TRANSCRIPT.pdf
15:55 🔗 Muad-Dib_ http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment_search/execute?proceeding=14-28 someone grabbing the FCC comment shitstorm?
15:57 🔗 joepie91 ummm
15:57 🔗 joepie91 we are aware that userscripts is down, yes?
15:57 🔗 joepie91 and simultaneously up at http://userscripts.org:8080/
15:57 🔗 joepie91 seems like a pretty clear alarm bell
15:58 🔗 SketchCow Yes
15:59 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/2014_03_Canvas_Grab is now up.
15:59 🔗 SketchCow Use may be nominal, but at least it's in the infrastructure.
15:59 🔗 chazchaz joepie91: could that be temporary mitigation for something automated pounding it too hard?
16:00 🔗 SketchCow No, userscripts has been this a while.
16:00 🔗 joepie91 chazchaz: it has supposedly been down on :80 since May 18
16:00 🔗 chazchaz That's really odd
16:00 🔗 joepie91 s/odd/concerning/
16:00 🔗 joepie91 do we have a userscripts grab?
16:02 🔗 chazchaz It's concerning too, but this really isn't the standard MO for something going down.
16:02 🔗 chazchaz just makes me curious
16:02 🔗 joepie91 chazchaz: I don't know, it would fit in a hypothetical cost-related shutdown
16:02 🔗 joepie91 where there is an attempt at selling the website
16:02 🔗 joepie91 to just pluck a random scenario from the top of my head
16:02 🔗 joepie91 since it'd ward off 90% of the traffic, but still show the goods
16:03 🔗 joepie91 I can't really think of a good-for-the-world scenario in which it would be moved to :8080 :P
16:03 🔗 chazchaz I would think they would ask for donations or something first.
16:11 🔗 joepie91 chazchaz: you'd be amazed at how many people feel bad about asking for donations
16:11 🔗 joepie91 because they perceive it as begging
16:12 🔗 joepie91 in some cases, to the point of rather selling things than accepting donations
16:12 🔗 SketchCow Or weakness
16:12 🔗 joepie91 for entirely non-financial reasons, just the perception
16:31 🔗 chazchaz I really hope it's not being sold. I really dont see why anyone would buy it except to abuse the fact that a lot of tools trust it in automated/semi-automated ways.
16:31 🔗 balrog joepie91: if someone wants to properly archive userscripts, they'll need to use wget-lua with a script that redirects port-80 accesses to port 8080
16:31 🔗 balrog I don't know how to do that :/
16:32 🔗 chazchaz I feel like it should just involve passing an extra flag to wget
16:32 🔗 balrog chazchaz: the issue is that there are hard links which go to port 80
16:33 🔗 balrog absolute URIs
16:33 🔗 balrog these need to get force-redirected to port 8080
16:39 🔗 joepie91 chazchaz: to "expand our services portfolio"
16:39 🔗 joepie91 did I mention "it has been a great journey"? :P
16:39 🔗 joepie91 balrog: I think wget has a rewrite rule thing, no?
16:39 🔗 joepie91 if not, wpull can probably be made to do it
16:44 🔗 chazchaz After looking around, there doesn't seem to be a convenient way to do this on the networking stack/iptables end
16:45 🔗 chazchaz Apparently, iptables only lets you change outbound destination ports if the destination is localhost
16:56 🔗 chazchaz Never mind, it can't even do that.
16:58 🔗 balrog as I said, probably use a wget-lua script
17:40 🔗 bugzee MochiMedia is gone, what do we do about that?
17:41 🔗 bugzee both links are disconnected
17:41 🔗 exmic chazchaz, joepie91: http://archivebot.at.ninjawedding.org:4567/#/histories/http://userscripts.org:8080/
17:43 🔗 exmic also in http://archive.org/download/archiveteam_archivebot_go_004/ is one from Nov 2013
17:50 🔗 ats_ chazchaz: yes it can -- e.g. "iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -d 1.2.3.4 -p tcp --dport 12345 -j DNAT --to-destination :5678"
17:59 🔗 bugzee does archiveteam ever do anything with BitTorrent sync?
18:00 🔗 exmic not yet, have a good idea?
18:03 🔗 schbirid2 if btsync was FLOSS i would be all over it
18:04 🔗 bugzee I know we love bittorrent itself, but bittorrent sync is like dropbox on steroids
18:05 🔗 Nemo_bis exmic: do you have one such direct link for sugarcrm forums too? I have some problems loading the whole archivebot dashboard
18:07 🔗 Jonimus Yeah the fact that bittorrent sync isn't FLOSS is a shame but it is a pretty slick setup.
18:08 🔗 schbirid2 it's an elimination criteria for me
18:10 🔗 exmic Nemo_bis: what was the url that sugarcrm was grabbed starting at?
18:10 🔗 Nemo_bis exmic: http://forums.sugarcrm.com/ , AFAIK
18:12 🔗 exmic Nemo_bis: it's still running, 22 days / 32G / 743,000 * HTTP200
21:42 🔗 gui77 I'm trying to run the justintv project on a new VM and after running pip install seesaw, the "get-wget-lua.sh" file doesn't exist
21:42 🔗 gui77 I also had to sudo the pip install seesaw command - any idea why this is happening?
21:46 🔗 exmic I bought somethingawful archives access, maybe I'll crawl it sometime
21:49 🔗 balrog exmic: someone should :)
21:49 🔗 balrog just ratelimit
21:49 🔗 * exmic nods
21:54 🔗 joepie91 exmic: aha, awesome
21:54 🔗 joepie91 re: userscripts
21:54 🔗 exmic :)
21:54 🔗 joepie91 Jonimus: I concur with schbirid
21:55 🔗 joepie91 not open-source == non-starter
21:55 🔗 joepie91 especially where it involves security claims
21:55 🔗 joepie91 also, bugzee, what's the thing with mochimedia? what happened to them?
22:14 🔗 yipdw joepie91: http://web.archive.org/web/20140325052914/http://mochiland.com/articles/mochi-media-winding-down-services-end-date-of-3-31-2014
22:15 🔗 yipdw it seems that Mochi had no meaningful position beyond Flash games
22:15 🔗 yipdw so their parent company said fuck it
22:16 🔗 yipdw interestingly, neither Mochi Media nor Shanda (their parent) are related to Y Combinator
22:17 🔗 yipdw which hints that there may be another source of douchinium in the world
22:32 🔗 balrog http://cubeworldforums.org shut down last week, no notice.
22:32 🔗 balrog SketchCow: ^
22:33 🔗 balrog http://cubeworldforum.org/ rather
22:48 🔗 SketchCow Bummer
22:48 🔗 SketchCow But not much we can do, then
22:48 🔗 balrog I know :/

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