#archiveteam 2014-06-06,Fri

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00:01 πŸ”— Asparagir New question -- wget will not allow me to ignore sub-sections of a query string. Will wpull allow that? I see the syntax for adding --reject-regex but I don't see any discussion in the documentation whether it can do this or not.
00:03 πŸ”— Asparagir A better way of phrasing this is that wget will let me ignore foo.html but will not allow me to ignore any pages containing foo as part of its query string. What about wpull?
00:04 πŸ”— DFJustin reject regex should do that
00:06 πŸ”— Asparagir Okay, thanks. Again.
00:06 πŸ”— Asparagir :-)
02:10 πŸ”— yipdw Asparagir: "latter-day Gilded Age" is a pretty neat phrase
05:15 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Oh, Mark Twain. I see.
05:46 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Crazy "Public contributions" graph https://github.com/Krinkle
06:14 πŸ”— Nemo_bis https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/137518/
06:26 πŸ”— joepie91 Nemo_bis: automagic internet-archive-powered URL saver?
06:30 πŸ”— Nemo_bis joepie91: it seems it saves locally or just links existing caches https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WebCache
06:30 πŸ”— Nemo_bis «This was initially designed for kiosk like functionality where a mobile server may only intermittently have internet access and still want to have all links functional when not connected.»
06:36 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Now if only I managed to load archive.org
07:53 πŸ”— joepie91 Nemo_bis: that's kinda cool
07:55 πŸ”— Nemo_bis joepie91: yes but most wikis don't have resources to handle such a cache; would be interesting to test how it handles IA
12:01 πŸ”— SadDM SketchCow: did you make me an admin on the diplomacyzines collection? I can't seem to upload to it (which might also explain my problem yesterday of not being able to edit its description).
12:37 πŸ”— Nemo_bis SadDM: check if your messages in forums have a star :)
12:48 πŸ”— SadDM Nemo_bis: I don't have any forum posts. What would that tell me? That I was *an* admin somewhere?
12:55 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Yes
12:55 πŸ”— Nemo_bis SadDM: you can try to look at the history of a dark'ed item
12:55 πŸ”— SadDM in that collection?
12:55 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Or, obviously, just check if https://archive.org/catalog.php?history=1&justme=1&limit=20 tells you "You're a trusted admin!"
12:57 πŸ”— SadDM Right, but that just says that I'm an admin somewhere (which I am), but doesn't tell me if I am on the diplomacyzines collection.
12:58 πŸ”— Nemo_bis I see.
12:58 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Well, if you don't see any additional command in an item of the collection you're not an admin :)
12:59 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Anyway, for those who are not admins this is what we're talking about https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/File:Internet_Archive_catalog_admin_view.png
13:00 πŸ”— SadDM OK... but the only things in that collection are stuff that I've uploaded.
13:01 πŸ”— Nemo_bis You still wouldn't see the host_stats links etc. IIRC
13:02 πŸ”— SadDM yeah, I'm seeing that now.
13:03 πŸ”— SadDM Well, I'll wait for SketchCow to have a few free moments to look at it.
13:20 πŸ”— godane looks like miracle on 34th street was public on IA around Christmas 2008
13:21 πŸ”— godane based on show links for commandN 162
15:39 πŸ”— SketchCow What
15:40 πŸ”— SketchCow Huh, strange.
15:42 πŸ”— SketchCow SadDM, give me your e-mail again.
15:42 πŸ”— SketchCow I'll try and add you.
15:58 πŸ”— SadDM SketchCow: aeakett@gmail.com
16:35 πŸ”— SketchCow SadDM: The word from my experty people are that you need to log completely out and log back in to get the new privs.
17:05 πŸ”— SadDM OK, I thought I'd done the log out/in dance, but obviously not because things seem to be working now. Thanks SketchCow.
17:10 πŸ”— SketchCow Good.
17:10 πŸ”— SketchCow It's nice to be at the archive! Getting shit done here.
17:18 πŸ”— SadDM OK, so my next question is how do I move an item from the opensource collection to the diplomacyzines collection (https://archive.org/details/raging_main_12-1984-03-03 for example)?
17:21 πŸ”— SketchCow Try doing "Edit item!" at the top of it and see if you can put that collection in it.
17:21 πŸ”— SadDM nope... the collection text field isn't editable for me (should have mentioned that).
17:26 πŸ”— DFJustin yeah because you don't have admin on the opensource collection it doesn't let you edit that from the web interface
17:26 πŸ”— DFJustin you can do it with metamgr or one of the command line tools
17:27 πŸ”— DFJustin https://pypi.python.org/pypi/internetarchive#metadata
17:31 πŸ”— Nemo_bis That's an item he uploaded, so he can just add another "collection" feed at the bottom with his collection, save, edit again enjoying admin rights, remove the other collection if desired
17:31 πŸ”— Nemo_bis * field at the bottom
17:35 πŸ”— SadDM ok, I figured out how to do it via matamgr, but doing thousands of those would be monkey-balls...
17:35 πŸ”— SadDM I'll try Nemo_bis's suggestion via the ia cli
17:39 πŸ”— SadDM ia metadata the_pouch_55-1974-03-18 --modify="collection:diplomacyzines" >>> error: Can't modify read-only field collection (400)
17:39 πŸ”— SadDM :-(
17:42 πŸ”— SadDM ia metadata the_pouch_55-1974-03-18 --append="collection:diplomacyzines" >>> error: Not authorized to add collection (400)
17:45 πŸ”— SadDM when I try doing it via the web interface as Nemo_bis suggested, it sorta works... I can't remove the opensource collection and it still shows up as "eBook and Texts > Community Texts > the pouch 55" instead of "eBook and Texts > Additional Collections > The Magazine Rack > Diplomacy Zines > the pouch 55"
17:45 πŸ”— Nemo_bis If it's thousands you certainly have to use the API
18:04 πŸ”— SadDM Just to confirm what DFJustin said about not having admin on opensource... that certainly seems to be the case because I can edit the collection of an item that is already in the diplomacyzines collection.
18:05 πŸ”— SadDM So... paging SketchCow: I can't move the items myself (see above). Here is a list of items that need moving into diplomacyzines: http://pastebin.com/4hD2Ufa3
18:11 πŸ”— SketchCow Doing it.
18:11 πŸ”— SketchCow Will ask about rights issues to see why this is the case for you.
18:11 πŸ”— SketchCow It will take a little while for the system to see all these changes, but they're being done.
18:15 πŸ”— SadDM No problem. I probably should have asked you about a collection once I realized the scope of what I was doing. It would have saved you a bunch of work... sorry about that.
18:37 πŸ”— SketchCow I can't overstate how little work this is for me.
18:44 πŸ”— SadDM :-)

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