[00:07] joepie91: how should we make this one usefull? [00:32] db48x: I have no idea, I wasn't particularly following the discussion [00:32] I've been on a bugticket fixing binge tonight [00:32] so not much attention was paid :P [00:43] :) [00:44] I too like to see a list of bugs and knock them down one by one [00:59] joepie91: maybe we should call you the exterminator, then. [01:47] Brewster is discussing a possibility with me so weird even I am going "do you need a day to think on this" [01:49] SketchCow: what kind of possibility? [01:54] [9:54:00 PM] Brewster Kahle (Internet Archive): you are the best. [01:54] Worth it just for that. [01:54] OK, DISCLAIMER [01:54] This is me talking informally with the boss [01:55] Here's his and mine discussing things [01:55] The number I have is 500tb [01:55] That's what all this new horseshit needs [01:56] So, the number is really $1,000,000 [01:56] If that dropped in our lap, problem solved boom [01:56] But. [01:57] - We PROVE, with a pilot item, that this stuff goes into the wayback in a sane manner [01:57] - We set it up so stuff goes up in TIME ORDER, that is, it's easy with each set to go "this is from XXX" so we know older stuff gets a priority if needed [01:57] - We raise $20k [01:57] - Items will go up [01:58] - HOWEVER, in a crunch, IN A CRUNCH, they go into "offline storage" [01:58] (The Internet Archive hard drive vaults) [01:58] And that is what we just came up with. [01:59] mmm [01:59] what do you want to use as a pilot? [01:59] so raise 20k, 500tb magically appears? [01:59] 500tb that that ultimately could become stored offline magically appears, yes. [02:00] Depending on budget and need [02:00] That would cover our stuff [02:00] If I read it all right. (Twitpic, Panorimo, I think we had some other thing) [02:00] I think this is a fair setup and offer. [02:00] definitely [02:01] For a pilot, I'd say, like, one of the first months of twitpic and panorimo [02:02] twitpic is going to be a pain [02:02] would "some other thing" be twitch or would it be too recent to dump in to IA? [02:02] since we did it seperately [02:02] twitch was already dumped to IA [02:05] Yeah, twitch is fine [02:05] Twitch was approved and was in the single digits (officially) [02:05] Anyway, there you have it. We need to fundraise (I'm talking to people) and we need that engineering effort. [02:05] And then we don't have to think about contracts, storage or anythng. [02:51] The uploading from FOS to the archive of the new collections (new style, sort of, with proper logos and descriptions as per the new attention to same) is continuing. Not surprisingly, it is intensive on both disk and cpu. [05:29] So. [05:30] What are we going to do with panoramio? [05:30] Will the files be available publicly in wayback or not? [05:31] So for what I understand [05:32] I'll create like 100 files for panoramio to prove they work. We raise 20.000 dollars. Stuff goes into offine storage? [05:46] \o/ [06:07] Yes [06:26] Ok, good, I guess we are going for the html + embed + original option? or everything? [06:26] I'll make sure they examples will be created for you asap [06:44] html embed original [07:22] It had worse days! http://teamarchive0.fnf.archive.org:8088/mrtg/diskv3.html [07:40] is that disk stats for fos? [08:54] It's IO [08:55] I'm going to start the panoramio grab to get some examples. SketchCow: which fos rsync can I use for the uploads of the examples? [08:57] You can go ahead and use whatever you're comfortable with. [08:57] Ok [08:57] I'm still hammering FOS dumping everything on it out (the usual monthly cleanout) [08:57] Hopefully Panic will get us on the right track [12:14] I am having problems with get-wget-lua.sh on ubuntu it exits with: [12:14] checking for pcre_compile in -lpcre... yes [12:14] checking for lua.h... no [12:14] checking lua.h presence... no [12:14] checking lua.h usability... no [12:14] checking lua5.1/lua.h usability... no [12:14] checking lua5.1/lua.h presence... no [12:14] checking for lua5.1/lua.h... no [12:14] configure: error: lua not found [12:15] wget-lua not successfully built. [12:15] but I did install lua 5.1 and 5.2 via apt-get [12:16] what is missing? [12:22] LD100: you need the dev package [12:23] ok I installed liblua5.1-0-dev now it starts make [12:24] but crashes [12:25] what's the error? [12:25] http://pastebin.com/xGVpYzNW [12:27] that's not a crash [12:27] that's a space station [12:27] sorry [12:29] LD100: You should probably go to the project channel. [12:31] hmm, let's see [12:32] the error is in building the documentation, which isn't exactly critical [12:46] well, I don't see an easy way to do it [12:47] but you can extract the tarball, run configure with the right options, open the Makefile a line to make it skip building the documentation, then build and install it [15:51] https://udm.branchable.com/index.en.html [16:03] SketchCow: the tests I di was with a pack in the 9***** range. We're now doing packs in the 2***** range and they seem to be around 30% smaller [16:13] OK. [16:26] Archive Bot definitely won't upload automatically, although it currently groups automatically. [16:44] http://www.theoldrobots.com/ [16:44] Thanks [17:13] Hi, im really urgently needin to get the hold of my old bebo photos, as some of them are very sentimental, and have in them my sister who has now passed away, plz can u tell me how i can retrieve them, thank you [17:13] Yes my username is KerryL55 [17:18] Anyone want to take a shot? [17:32] Made another call for raw disks. [20:11] bebo [20:12] what was that project again? [20:12] oh right [20:28] midas: it'd be hard to find that particular profile [20:28] the profiles have id's, not names [20:30] oh i know [20:30] has anyone looked at bebo.com lately? [20:35] you can get the profile ID by going to bebo.com/KerryL55 [20:36] ok great, got it [20:37] https://web.archive.org/web/20140228114325/http://archive.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=4671139966 [20:38] -.- [21:12] So this week, from tuesday till friday I'll be at the CERN [21:12] for research [21:12] cool [21:12] Got internet there, so I'll keep an eye on the projects [21:12] been there alot, mostly to get drunk [21:13] midas: haha [21:13] midas: I'm looking into the influence of solar activity on the decay of the D0 particle [21:13] sometimes i did do some work, but used to work for a bank there and my uncle lives near it ;) [21:14] http://www.domaine-du-paradis.ch/ [21:14] near cern, great wines ;) [21:14] hah, will see if I have some time to visit :) [21:15] not my uncle, but great wines ;) [21:17] I'll keep you informed midas ;) [21:20] have fun :) [21:21] thanks! [21:21] well, I'm there not for the fun, for the research [22:26] SketchCow: you got 100 GB of panoramio grabs to show the grabs are working