#archiveteam 2014-10-25,Sat

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02:37 🔗 SketchCow Excellent
14:52 🔗 midas seems that twitpic is gone
14:53 🔗 midas frontpage is empty
14:53 🔗 midas but, data still exists: http://twitpic.com/135xa
14:54 🔗 godane very odd
14:54 🔗 godane send warrior after areas that need grabbing
15:11 🔗 joepie91 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable
15:11 🔗 joepie91 cc midas godane
15:11 🔗 joepie91 (for the image URL)
15:12 🔗 midas hm? works here?
15:12 🔗 midas refresh it a couple of times
15:15 🔗 godane https://dn3pm25xmtlyu.cloudfront.net/photos/large/1827262.jpg?1232052212&Expires=1414336322&Signature=M3Dx66kXYdcgrTVlxqBCPqZ2osLKCwd4OZj84B3L0h~33bi~TCd8395uq5ImqqVCZfCqUUwdenExmfPACy1rUXX8lIxK2v8fyZMUt6r-kZMO3b039g1hBRBWy9BM-EzmwENCD7qf34fFLjrTylRqCpIHvyKEQ3453-jz7F38wNA_&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA
15:21 🔗 ersi Outlook cloudy.
15:25 🔗 godane i was hoping we could just attack the number.jpg ulrs
15:25 🔗 godane but no
15:25 🔗 godane you need special keys
15:25 🔗 antomatic that's the change Noah made once the 500m were grabbed
15:25 🔗 godane oh
15:25 🔗 Kenshin sadly we didn't have the space for the last 300m
15:25 🔗 Kenshin at that point of time when it was still unblocked
15:26 🔗 Kenshin and because they announced no-close as well
15:26 🔗 Kenshin there was no incentive to push for the last 300m
15:26 🔗 Kenshin when they did announce re-close, too late, already locked the photos with key
15:26 🔗 antomatic and archiving had temporarily stopped because he said "Yay, Twitpic is acquired, you want to go skateboards?"
15:26 🔗 antomatic [This is how website owners speak, I imagine]
15:26 🔗 Kenshin if we grabed the last 300m it would ahve probably been easier at this point really
15:27 🔗 Kenshin in worse case we could have just redirected the base-36 URLs to base-10 image links
15:28 🔗 Kenshin either way nothing more we can do
15:28 🔗 antomatic 500m is still a very good result
15:28 🔗 antomatic especially given the circumstances
15:28 🔗 Kenshin let's just say if they didn't announce the acquire
15:28 🔗 Kenshin we would have continued
15:29 🔗 Kenshin and probably got close to current
15:29 🔗 antomatic Hindsight is always 20/20.
15:29 🔗 Kenshin i blame it on the lack of storage
15:29 🔗 antomatic As you say, it was hard to make a case for the space once they said it wasn't being wiped
15:29 🔗 Kenshin i was pushing 3-4gbps nonstop for the cloudfront project
15:30 🔗 Kenshin i got the 500m in 3 days
15:30 🔗 antomatic even in the light of "won't be fooled again" there are always practical limits
15:30 🔗 Kenshin I'd quote House, "Everybody lies"
15:30 🔗 antomatic Hehe. :)
15:31 🔗 antomatic All those weeny commenters on HN, all "they can't afford the transfer costs" and stuff.
15:31 🔗 antomatic You'd have thought we were taking a dying man's last dime.
15:31 🔗 ersi This is starting to be something for #archiveteam-bs
15:31 🔗 Kenshin the 500m would have cost them a few thousands i guess
15:32 🔗 antomatic It's a useful discussion for considering future AT policy and approaches to cases like these, though, maybe, ersi?
15:32 🔗 Kenshin ersi: i think this is something everyone needs to learn about when archiving all future sites
15:32 🔗 antomatic but -bs is fine too
15:33 🔗 Kenshin AT needs a firm solution for the storage issue
15:33 🔗 * antomatic nods
15:33 🔗 yipdw someone give me a bunch of twitpic URLs
15:33 🔗 yipdw ArchiveBot isn't banned and we have image access
15:33 🔗 antomatic weh?
15:33 🔗 yipdw just do it
15:34 🔗 Kenshin yipdw: you can always do base36 conversion for 500m+
15:34 🔗 ersi Well, as long as it's not fretting about what we've lost for hundreds of lines and useless policy talk
15:34 🔗 Kenshin yipdw: 49.213.23.196
15:34 🔗 Kenshin gah bad paste
15:34 🔗 ersi Policy is, do (archiving) > talking
15:34 🔗 Kenshin http://twitpic.com/89oqgx
15:35 🔗 Kenshin ersi: yes but when storage is an issue, not possible to "do"
15:35 🔗 antomatic archiving without a plan is just masturbation. :)
15:35 🔗 yipdw watch http://archivebot.at.ninjawedding.org:4567/
15:35 🔗 * antomatic watches
15:35 🔗 ersi Sometimes, making a plan is when archiving doesn't happen and the building burn down
15:35 🔗 ersi So it's not just masturbation. Whatever, I'm out :)
15:36 🔗 yipdw maybe I need to phantomjs that
15:36 🔗 yipdw huh yeah
15:37 🔗 yipdw so yeah, either keep talking about archiving or URLs
15:37 🔗 Kenshin yipdw: it worked
15:37 🔗 Kenshin you grabed the image fine, 200
15:37 🔗 yipdw it's full of signed request shit, but yeah
15:37 🔗 Kenshin well because it's a complete grab, the signing is fine
15:37 🔗 Kenshin the html will link to the image
15:37 🔗 yipdw yeah, it'll just screw wayback up without some processing
15:37 🔗 yipdw oh yeah or that
15:37 🔗 yipdw ANYWAY
15:38 🔗 Kenshin lets move this to #quitpic
15:38 🔗 yipdw ok
15:39 🔗 godane antomatic: thats why i create plans with my archives
15:39 🔗 godane looks at my funnyordie collection and you see the plan
15:39 🔗 antomatic you do great work, godane. that needs to be said.
15:39 🔗 antomatic always.
15:39 🔗 godane grab older stuff first
15:40 🔗 antomatic makes sense
15:40 🔗 godane my advices is more for the stuff thats not shutting down
15:41 🔗 godane cause otherwise you lose the stuff that more popular
15:43 🔗 godane also this at least give you some thing if they shutdown with no warning
15:44 🔗 godane with twitpic the best way of archiving that IA can handle is maybe grabbing the url images on the front pages that IA has
15:45 🔗 godane this way you give IA something and you have less dead links in wayback machiine
15:46 🔗 godane anyways i'm grab more global news videos
15:46 🔗 godane like News Hour and News Hour Final
16:33 🔗 SketchCow Morning
16:33 🔗 SketchCow This went to -bs quick
18:31 🔗 signius I am already running scripts on a couple of VPS boxes but when i try & run the scripts on a VM on my local LAN i am just getting Server returned 0 .........Sleeping
18:32 🔗 signius What am i doing wrong ? or not doing that i should be ?
18:34 🔗 Kazzy does the vm have internet access?
18:34 🔗 signius yeah
19:07 🔗 bzc6p TWITPIC "ACQUIRED" BY TWITTER. http://blog.twitpic.com/2014/10/twitpics-future/
19:09 🔗 bzc6p (the quotation marks mean "kind of")
19:10 🔗 godane its at least saved in a read-only state
19:10 🔗 godane but this one bothers me: You will still be able to login to your profile to delete content or delete your account on Twitpic.com
19:11 🔗 godane also twitter gives all there stuff older then 6 months to the library of congress i think
19:13 🔗 joepie91 "Twitter shares our goal of protecting our users and this data."
19:13 🔗 joepie91 hahahahahahahaha.
19:13 🔗 joepie91 I don't think there's any sharing involved there...
19:21 🔗 pikhq godane: At the very least, if you send communication to Twitter saying "hey, we'd like to archive stuff!" they're likely to send a response. :P
19:23 🔗 joepie91 pikhq: try to send actual communication to Twitter and then say that again :P
19:23 🔗 pikhq I didn't say it would be more than a formletter.
19:23 🔗 joepie91 pikhq: nono, you misunderstand
19:23 🔗 joepie91 the problem isn't in the response received
19:23 🔗 joepie91 the problem is in actually sending them a communication
19:23 🔗 joepie91 I've tried this before
19:24 🔗 pikhq They *do* have a mailing address, no?
19:24 🔗 joepie91 after an hour I gave up on finding anything that wasn't an incredibly narrowly defined topic-specific contact form
19:24 🔗 joepie91 pikhq: snail mail? possibly, I have no idea
19:24 🔗 joepie91 certainly not any kind of online human support
19:26 🔗 pikhq Huh, impressive. Their website actually makes it hard to find contact info.
19:27 🔗 joepie91 yep.
19:27 🔗 joepie91 contract to Yahoo, the much-maligned destroyer of data, who have an actual online support department
19:27 🔗 joepie91 contrast *
19:27 🔗 joepie91 with a human responding
19:27 🔗 joepie91 :P
19:27 🔗 joepie91 anyway, this is going into -bs territory
19:33 🔗 SketchCow "going"
19:33 🔗 joepie91 shush :P
19:33 🔗 SketchCow Dude, we passed WELCOME TO -BS, FIRST IN TANGENTS on the highway 3 hours ago
19:33 🔗 joepie91 the siren didn't even go off yet!
19:57 🔗 godane SketchCow: i started grabbing News Hour Toronto
19:58 🔗 godane looks like they may have better archives then Global National archives
20:00 🔗 chronomex someone wants an off topic siren?
20:00 🔗 chronomex woop woop woop off-topic siren
20:00 🔗 chronomex oh, that was half an hour ago
20:09 🔗 SketchCow Excellent
20:10 🔗 godane looks like i can get episodes going back to 2013
20:17 🔗 godane SketchCow: there is also a english south korea news program called KBS News Today
20:17 🔗 godane there episodes of that on youtube
22:58 🔗 arkiver https://web.archive.org/web/20141007064755/http://www.genealogy.com/users/m/e/i/Paula-Arleen-Meinert/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-1583.html
22:58 🔗 arkiver https://web.archive.org/web/20141007063953/http://www.genealogy.com/users/m/e/i/Paula-Arleen-Meinert/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-Index.html
22:58 🔗 arkiver https://web.archive.org/web/20140929010450/http://www.mundia.com/be/Person/27883978/5094683264
22:58 🔗 arkiver it's there
22:58 🔗 arkiver and it's awesome
22:59 🔗 arkiver :)
23:01 🔗 arkiver https://web.archive.org/web/20140924190350/http://www.mundia.com/af/Search/Results?surname=BAHA&birthPlace=Afghanistan

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