#archiveteam 2014-10-28,Tue

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00:02 🔗 joepie91 why hello there ArloJames
00:03 🔗 joepie91 well, this is a pretty low-traffic channel, only really used for "what's the password" and "hey, X is going down", longer discussion is usually moved to #archiveteam-bs, as is off-topic chatter
00:11 🔗 ArloJames joepie91 - I figured, but before I would have assumed that the main channel would be the casual, higher-throughput channel, and then there would be a dedicated #archiveteam-login or #archiveteam-announcements side channel. It matters not, though.
03:22 🔗 ArloJames Night
04:19 🔗 marc yo
04:20 🔗 marc what'sa good doc format- better than .doc?
04:20 🔗 marc pdf?
04:20 🔗 marc (for sf bay guardian newspaper articles frm past 2 0 years- some guy wrote a macro to upgrade everything frm wordstar/word6-> word 2003
04:21 🔗 trs80 ODF?
04:21 🔗 marc hrm not sure word exports to that
04:21 🔗 marc can prolly convert pdf to odf tho
04:21 🔗 marc ODT tho
04:22 🔗 marc interesting i'll look into it thx
04:22 🔗 marc looks like someone made exporter for word2003
05:22 🔗 db48x pdf is a pretty good choice
05:22 🔗 db48x a conversion from doc to pdf to odf probably won't have a lot of fidelity though
05:23 🔗 db48x pdf is great at capturing the visual layout of a document, but it loses a lot of semantic information
05:25 🔗 db48x even things like the reading order of lines of text are missing from pdf (pdf will have the coordinates and size, instead)
05:28 🔗 db48x whatever conversions you decide on, the best thing to do is keep the originals as well
05:29 🔗 db48x we can emulate the old software to read them, or redo the conversions as the tools improve
06:09 🔗 DFJustin ^ this
08:59 🔗 midas or LaTeX
09:47 🔗 db48x LaTeX isn't future-proof. TeX would be
09:49 🔗 db48x and conversions to LaTeX/TeX are annoying
15:28 🔗 joepie91 marc: please make sure a copy of it exists in an open format at least
15:29 🔗 joepie91 no point in having a copy if you can't read it and the information needed to do so is missing
15:29 🔗 joepie91 :)
18:21 🔗 Jonimus have any of the FTP archiving projects gotten ftp://ftp.ti.com/ ?
18:26 🔗 aaaaaaaaa according to the list here: http://dat.serveert.me.uk/p/ftp it looks like no one has gotten it yet
23:01 🔗 SketchCow Hi, archive team
23:01 🔗 SketchCow My little gift. Don't tweet.
23:02 🔗 SketchCow http://archive.org/v2
23:03 🔗 Smiley saw that yesterday. is nice.
23:05 🔗 Smiley down to d's in the meta works
23:57 🔗 wp494 okay I guess tweet all you want
23:57 🔗 wp494 since IA themselves tweeted http://blog.archive.org/2014/10/28/building-libraries-together/
23:57 🔗 wp494 which mentions v2
23:58 🔗 Smiley f's ahoy!!!
23:59 🔗 wp494 IA could make loads of $$$ if they sold tabletop scribes
23:59 🔗 Smiley a wut?
23:59 🔗 wp494 even if it's just the scribe unit itself (as in "bring your own lights & camera")
23:59 🔗 Smiley oh for books?

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