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vertice32 |
hey all, I maintain a longstanding community site for queer and questioning teens that we have decided to sunset |
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what’s the best tool to use to build a warc of a drupal 5.x site ? |
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wget (or wpull) is usually a good choice if the website has a good structure and is not too big |
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chfoo |
heritrix for complex and advanced set up. #archivebot for small to medium sites if you want it in archive.org |
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if it's a website that you want us to crawl, let us know |
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the website is http://www.oasisjournals.com |
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it’s been running for 19 years |
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wow, thanks for running it that long |
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yeah. history is important. which is why i didn’t want to just turn it off |
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and the site served it’s purpose. gay teenagers don’t need somewhere else to talk anymore |
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if you go to the channel #archivebot and post the site, the guys there should be able to kick off a grab of it, or at least point you in the right direction |
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vertice32: otherwise, we've got these on the wiki if you'd want to do it yourself: http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Wget_with_WARC_output http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Wget#Creating_WARC_with_wget |
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vertice32: is your aim to keep maintain a static version of it? |
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A static export is really a feature that big CMS should support better. I've searched one for Joomla and the landscape is very sad, no idea about Drupal. And we don't really offer any tool to serve your own WARC backup on your site |
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Yeah, we normally recommend putting your WARC backup on Archive.org, and then it can be imported into the Wayback Machine |
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linking to it |
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Nemo_bis: the irony of this is, i used to be a core drupal developer, and i’m sure something like that exists somewhere, but a crawled copy is actually preferable to me in this situation |
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DFJustin: what do they return? |
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joepie91 wants me to relay that all bitcasa properties should be archived, https://pdf.yt/d/kdIrOFZdTzelLwY9 because they're financially insolvent |
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Aranje |
they tried to get the court to strike that info, but judge rejected |
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that link is the ruling, with the list of phrases bitcasa wanted struck |
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(sorry for duplicate, I failed to follow his directions haha) |
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arkiver: hi! i see that tracker for ownlog-grab has been set up |
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what's next? Should I change it on github sources and run a few warrior instances? |
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schbirid |
We recently surveyed 231 developers and found that more than half of them still store and manage data on the device. Really? In 2014? |
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schbirid |
With so many apps competing for on-device storage space, this no longer makes sense. And what happens when your users upgrade to a new device? |
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how can you even write something like that |
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schbirid |
sorry, mega -bs |
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bebzol: you should talk chfoo if you have a question about the tracker |
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arkiver |
and you should also inform SketchCow (Jason Scott) about your project |
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bebzol: if the scripts are ready and we get some sort of approval for rsync, i'll put in the warrior |
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the_fox |
According to a now deleted post, the admin with a history of nuking site databases he's in charge of has now stepped down from FurAffinity. |
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the_fox |
So, assuming the post was truthful and the admin didn't slip in any back doors, it appears that FA is now out of imminent danger. |
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schbirid |
aka perfect time to make a good archive |
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the_fox |
Completely agree. Even without him, FA is still a poorly managed site with an increasingly discontent user base. But now there's no need to move quickly. We can take our time. |
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:)\ |
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joepie91 |
also |
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joepie91 |
did anybody take care of bitcasa yet |
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SketchCow |
Like, with weapons? |
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Smiley |
of ass destruction? |
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joepie91 |
SketchCow: weapons of mass archival |
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joepie91 |
SketchCow: bitcasa is insolvent, likely that they disappear very soon |
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schbirid |
it did not look like real proof imo |
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schbirid: ? |
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schbirid |
https://pdf.yt/d/kdIrOFZdTzelLwY9 <- ? |
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schbirid: yes? |
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schbirid |
where does it say that bitcasa is insolvent? |
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joepie91 |
“Insolvent, and with no new venture funding in sight;" |
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joepie91 |
between 6 and 7 on page 1 |
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joepie91 |
err |
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joepie91 |
page 2, sorry |
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schbirid |
those are quotes from that other case which they seek to censor, unless i misunderstand it all |
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Smiley |
hmmm |
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Smiley |
not sure how big this paste is... |
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Smiley |
oh ffs can't copy from that site properly |
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schbirid: wha? they're arguing that these phrases should be sealed in the documents about the class action suit against bitcasa |
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joepie91 |
"the other case"? |
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schbirid |
that case i meant |
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yes? |
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yes |
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I don't understand what's unclear - bitcasa tries to get the statements about their insolvency in the class action case sealed |
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how does this not show that bitcasa is insolvent? |
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schbirid |
were those statements written by them or are they allegations? |
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defendant Bitcasa, Inc. filed an administrative motion for leave to file underseal certain proposed redactions in (1) its opposition to a preliminary injunction and (2) adeclaration filed in support of its opposition |
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Smiley |
allegations... |
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evidently not |
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which the judge refused to blank... |
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leaning towards them being truthful |
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according to that sentence, these statements originate from bitcasa's opposition to the preliminary injunction |
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thus, bitcasa or their representation made the statements |
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lets -bs |
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