#archiveteam 2014-12-03,Wed

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00:16 🔗 balrog dashcloud: does tripod have such a thing?
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00:57 🔗 dashcloud not that I can see- ask godane though- I think he found the angelfire sitemap files
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01:05 🔗 godane http://www.angelfire.com/robots.txt
01:06 🔗 godane you have download the sitemap xml.gz files
01:06 🔗 godane then zcat them
01:06 🔗 godane but the robots will give you a complete list i hope
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01:25 🔗 dashcloud the tripod sitemap is much less helpful than the angelfire one: http://www.tripod.lycos.com/sitemap_index.xml
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01:39 🔗 aaaaaaaaa they are actually under members.tripod.com
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01:43 🔗 aaaaaaaaa and the archivebot is grabbing them
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02:02 🔗 Start arkiver: looks like the highest valid roon blog has changed: https://roon.io/api/v1/blogs/122234
02:02 🔗 Start arkiver: we should probably scrape everything up to 122300 to be safe
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03:37 🔗 balrog tripod has sitemaps? that should greatly ease discovery.
03:45 🔗 Start SketchCow: Juliacoleratings and Sharonsleeper are spammers and should be banned from the wiki
03:49 🔗 dashcloud there's at least two kinds of tripod pages/setups: classic style: http://sicexcels.tripod.com/ & modern style: http://members.tripod.com/no_numbers/
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04:06 🔗 Start http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/01/microsoft-is-getting-rid-of-clip-art/
04:07 🔗 Start if i'm not mistaken, isn't there some part of office.microsoft.com that lets you browse through clip art
04:07 🔗 Start if i'm not mistaken, isn't there some part of office.microsoft.com that lets you browse through clip art?
04:07 🔗 Start if anyone can find it, let me know
04:08 🔗 Start if it's still there
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04:10 🔗 aaaaaaaaa it used to be office.microsoft.com/language setting/images/ IIRC
04:11 🔗 aaaaaaaaa so mine would have been office.microsoft.com/en-US/images/
04:11 🔗 aaaaaaaaa but it used to be some office.com url that I can't remember in earlier versions
04:17 🔗 Start found it: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/images/CM079001906.aspx
04:17 🔗 Start the last two numbers are incrementing
04:17 🔗 Start starting at http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/images/CM079001901.aspx
04:18 🔗 Start there are gaps here and there
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04:44 🔗 Lord_Nigh operation: save clippy begins (i guess)
04:50 🔗 Start i've created a wiki page for microsoft clip art
04:50 🔗 Start i'll ask arkiver about writing grab scripts in the morning
04:50 🔗 Start or as soon as possible
04:51 🔗 Start what should it's irc channel be called?
04:51 🔗 Start two ideas that come to mind are #clipfart and #clippyart
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05:06 🔗 wp494 damnit I thought nadella would be mostly a good guy
05:06 🔗 wp494 also, I vote #clipfart
05:06 🔗 balrog Start: aren't those from Fotolia?
05:06 🔗 balrog so they're not even MS clip art?
05:06 🔗 Start some newer ones are
05:06 🔗 Start there's a ton of older stuff in there
05:07 🔗 Start like this guy: http://officeimg.vo.msecnd.net/en-us/images/MH900240985.jpg
05:10 🔗 Start any more votes/ideas for the irc channel name?
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05:10 🔗 trs80 #ditchart?
05:14 🔗 Start anyone else? so far it's between #clipfart and #ditchart
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05:27 🔗 Start i vote #clipfart
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08:14 🔗 arkiver I vote #clipfart
08:15 🔗 arkiver So with all the new websites, we currently need to start grabbing:
08:15 🔗 arkiver - ep1c (will be done through the viddy grab)
08:15 🔗 arkiver - roon
08:16 🔗 arkiver - microsoft clip art
08:16 🔗 arkiver If I'm missing something there ^ please let me know
08:20 🔗 arkiver In the grab for microsoft clip art I'll grab the whole http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/images/MP900******.aspx range and the images/videos/audios/others that are up there for download
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13:50 🔗 antomat2 Coming to you live from a moving train.
13:51 🔗 antomat2 What hath technology wrought.
13:51 🔗 antomat2 Buh. I have nothing else to say. That is all. :)
13:51 🔗 * antomat2 waves
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17:54 🔗 SketchCow Start: Just figured it out.
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18:02 🔗 SketchCow Hey hi.
18:02 🔗 SketchCow -----------------------------------------------
18:02 🔗 SketchCow archive.org is putting up wikimedia-like banners
18:02 🔗 SketchCow test and give feedback when you feel like it
18:02 🔗 SketchCow -----------------------------------------------
18:07 🔗 schbirid too much text, too tiny, banner blindness orange, where can i opt out?
18:08 🔗 schbirid why does IA need money suddenly?
18:08 🔗 schbirid what is the goal?
18:12 🔗 balrog schbirid: to pay for storing more data?
18:12 🔗 yipdw "why does IA need money suddenly", as terabytes of twitpic are slammed onto s3.us.archive.org
18:13 🔗 balrog (shout-out: we're trying to get #aohell going better but need people experienced with protocol reverse engineering)
18:13 🔗 schbirid i know it can put any money to good use but i did not get the impression that money is _needed_ and that there is a set sum (75$ of "everyone") needs to be funded
18:13 🔗 aaaaaaaaa orange on black doesn't contrast enough for me
18:13 🔗 aaaaaaaaa and that peach on orange doesn't either.
18:15 🔗 aaaaaaaaa but it is nicely written and much better than wikipedia's version
18:20 🔗 schbirid (what i am saying is: people might like to know the target and cause)
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18:28 🔗 Nemo_bis SketchCow: ah, luckily you mean the OLD wikimedia-like banners
18:28 🔗 Nemo_bis Because the new ones take an entire 1024x768 screen and look like an obituary, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Fundraising_2014
18:29 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Oh good point. One thing I don't like about wikipedia's is that they don't really say what or how much they want. Plus, I don't like it when I can't easily figure out the underlying financial picture.
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18:38 🔗 Nemo_bis Oh, any amount is good. It all goes to wise investors in New York
18:38 🔗 Nemo_bis https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?oldid=100396 says 20 M$ for the "English users in English countries" december ride
18:40 🔗 SketchCow 13:17 < schbirid> why does IA need money suddenly?
18:40 🔗 SketchCow So, you've not been in here..... for the past 5 years
18:40 🔗 SketchCow IA loses money basically every single year.
18:40 🔗 schbirid oh poop, i thought it was all super duper funded :(
18:40 🔗 SketchCow It has a very nice rich guy supporting it
18:41 🔗 SketchCow But it is definitely not super duper funded and we definitely don't have an endowment yet.
18:41 🔗 aaaaaaaaa They really should link to their 990 or audited financial statements, or maybe they do but I can't find it.
18:42 🔗 Nemo_bis I'm definitely surprised. I thought the columns and triangle logo was a symbol of the oil platform in the SF sea owned by IA. isn't it?
18:42 🔗 Nemo_bis Oh, maybe it's because the oil price is dropping
18:42 🔗 Nemo_bis Evil arabs
18:43 🔗 aaaaaaaaa the new Library of Alexandria must be playing the long game now.
18:44 🔗 kyan The Institute of Museum and Library Services (http://www.imls.gov/) issues grants, does IA take advantage of that?
18:44 🔗 SketchCow The oil platform is where we keep all the servers with the archiveteam downloads.
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18:46 🔗 SketchCow About to go out and buy more crates and more plastic bags, because that's my life now.
18:47 🔗 midas no supermarkets near the oil platform
18:48 🔗 commentat howto archive a site like http://archief.schooltv.nl/wieisdedader/index.jsp
18:49 🔗 commentat it is shutting don @ end this month
18:49 🔗 kyan commentat, warcprox?
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18:49 🔗 commentat can it handle a flash site?
18:49 🔗 midas cc joepie91_ ^
18:49 🔗 midas schooltv
18:50 🔗 commentat the site contains all flash items to open other flash items
18:50 🔗 midas we should grab all of it
18:50 🔗 SketchCow kyan: Our fundaiser thanks you, and says we've been eyeing grants from them, and watching where they go.
18:50 🔗 kyan cool :)
18:51 🔗 commentat it is part of an educational program but the Dutch "schooltv" has a new site without flash so all flash related items are lost @ end this month
18:51 🔗 commentat maybe more interesting items @ this archief subdomain
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20:23 🔗 midas SketchCow: about that, the funding thing. is the mailinglist completely fixed now?
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22:46 🔗 Start i'm guessing we won
22:47 🔗 Start i'm guessing we won't be able to save relay
22:47 🔗 Start i couldn't find any sort of api or any other efficient discovery methods.
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