#archiveteam 2014-12-18,Thu

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04:29 🔗 SketchCow Did we grab ivillage?
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04:44 🔗 yipdw SketchCow: still in progress, ~119,000 URLs to go
04:44 🔗 SketchCow Thanks.
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05:27 🔗 VonScoot SketchCow: what's yer beef with Binstock?
05:28 🔗 SketchCow ha ha HA ha ha ha
05:28 🔗 SketchCow Imagine there's a limpwriting machine
05:28 🔗 SketchCow imagine he sat under it, on high, for most of the day
05:28 🔗 SketchCow and then wrote that editorial
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08:07 🔗 SketchCow VonScoot: It was an idiot editorial. Someone showing how completely idiot and cluless he was.
08:07 🔗 SketchCow Which is fine, one does not expect the online-only endgame of a long-standing magazine to have a winner at the helm.
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08:45 🔗 swebb sets mode: +o ersi
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09:30 🔗 SketchCow http://imgur.com/gallery/bpkHSif
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10:20 🔗 cadbury_ is it normal for the warrior to restart itself?
10:24 🔗 midas yep
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11:35 🔗 ersi cadbury_: Yeah, it's to make sure it's updated and that the project code is updated.
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11:50 🔗 cadbury_ nice, i shan't worry about it then
11:50 🔗 cadbury_ presumably i can start as many warriors as i like?
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13:11 🔗 balrog """Activist investors are pushing for a Yahoo-AOL merge"???
13:14 🔗 db48x cadbury_: in theory, sure. however, running too many things on one IP address can get that address banned
13:15 🔗 db48x cadbury_: that said, if you want to get a bit more involved you can run the software outside of the warrior VM, where you'll have a lot more flexibility
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13:27 🔗 joepie91 balrog: oh god
13:27 🔗 joepie91 that can only go wrong
13:27 🔗 joepie91 horribly, horribly wrong
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13:42 🔗 midas how could that go wr.
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13:43 🔗 midas all gone.
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14:14 🔗 w0rp God help us all.
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14:32 🔗 cadbury_ db48x: what does running outside of the warrior change/do?
14:34 🔗 Kazzy given you more control over what you run, essentially
14:34 🔗 Kazzy instead of running 5 vm's, just run the scripts 5 times, less overhead
14:35 🔗 cadbury_ oh, well that makes sense
14:35 🔗 cadbury_ presumably you can have each script running on a different port for the webui or is that a separate process?
14:35 🔗 Kazzy you can yes, or just disable it when you run the script
14:39 🔗 db48x yea, you can ditch the web ui, and run more concurrent downloaders (and uploaders) than the web ui limits you to
14:39 🔗 cadbury_ is there much advantage to running more?
14:39 🔗 db48x it depends
14:40 🔗 db48x some projects are really banhappy
14:40 🔗 db48x occasionally we've been able to download so fast that we filled up our staging area
14:41 🔗 db48x in both cases we have the tracker apply really strong rate limits
14:42 🔗 db48x which means that running more workers won't really get the work done faster, although you might be able to steal a larger slice of the work
14:43 🔗 cadbury_ i suppose one advantage would be being able to run 1 worker per project available
14:44 🔗 db48x yea, you could do that
14:45 🔗 db48x although I think only twitpic and urlteam are currently in progress
14:45 🔗 cadbury_ multi-URL team scrapers would probably work without a problem
14:46 🔗 db48x yea, urlteam is an interesting case
14:46 🔗 db48x with those they're often scraping multiple shorteners at the same time, and you can have one work unit assigned to you for each of them
14:47 🔗 cadbury_ i don't have enough spare hardware left over for more VMs
14:47 🔗 db48x ooh, looks like they're doing a bunch of shortners right now, so you can go nuts
14:49 🔗 db48x you can run the script directly: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/terroroftinytown-client-grab
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14:51 🔗 cadbury_ the amount of code that actually makes that work is surprisingly small
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14:55 🔗 db48x yep
14:56 🔗 db48x pipeline.py contains the code that defines what steps are necessary to process a work unit
14:56 🔗 db48x it's leaning heavily on Seesaw to provide most of the heavy lifting of running processes and managing concurrency and so on
14:57 🔗 db48x the program that actual interrogates the url shortener comes from a different git repository, but it's not very long either
15:01 🔗 db48x twitpic is here: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/twitpic-grab2
15:03 🔗 db48x you can see that it's pipeline is a bit more complex
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16:26 🔗 Nemo_bis The torrent of https://archive.org/details/URLTeamTorrentRelease2013July doesn't include any file
16:27 🔗 Nemo_bis SketchCow: can you regenerate the torrent?
16:27 🔗 SketchCow I just set it off.
16:28 🔗 SketchCow It's been a hell of a emscripten-DOSBOX Bender this week
16:36 🔗 schbirid https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8767909
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18:33 🔗 raylee SketchCow: youre porting dosbox to the browser?
19:16 🔗 SketchCow Someone already has done it, and it's done.
19:16 🔗 SketchCow Now I'm just trying to make it work with the archive.org structure, which has some unusual aspects.
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21:10 🔗 joepie91 no data lost, but another Yahoo acquisition apparently
21:10 🔗 joepie91 https://peercdn.com/
21:10 🔗 joepie91 PeerCDN Acquired by Yahoo!
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21:29 🔗 deathy that's since quite a few months actually
21:32 🔗 deathy one of the founders started webtorrent I think right after. BitTorrent just using a browser
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21:40 🔗 godane i'm starting to upload more funny or die videos
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23:11 🔗 godane so nine to noon show on radionz is about 11gb a year
23:21 🔗 godane good news is at this rate i will have the backlog of that show in the archive soon
23:22 🔗 godane and then i just have to wait for christmas eve to start downloading the index of 2014 urls for that show
23:22 🔗 godane they end on christmas eve and don't start back until jan ~20
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