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aleatoryb |
hey all, happy merry. i'm working on archiving videos from the us senate select cmmttee on intel. there's 3 kinds: realmedia (gross but workable), flv on some proprietary akamai server (why I'm here), and flv on an akamai adobeHDS server (gross but workable). all the sen. committee sites are likely to change when new congress takes over |
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aleatoryb |
not rtmp, some proprietary system that throttles flv transfer to a trickle without some encrypted requests at regular intervals. can go into more detail if anyone's interested |
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godane |
i want to see a link to one of these videos? |
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godane |
i got a example: http://www.banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.LiveStream&Hearing_id=9a041872-9581-4912-8414-16c343da15f2 |
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aleatoryb |
http://www.senate.gov/isvp/?type=live&comm=intel&filename=intel092110&stt=0:00:00 |
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aleatoryb |
the first .flv link that shows up in network dev tab is wget/curlable but very very slow |
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aleatoryb |
these were hosted on an older flash media server (fms.senate.gov) from 2009-2013 which was shut off.. they moved the media onto this other server but never actually updated the links on the committee page |
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aleatoryb |
i discovered them because the naming protocol is consistent :P |
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aleatoryb |
godane - http://ussenate-f.akamaihd.net/intel092110.flv?v=3.1.0&fp=LNX%2011,2,202,425&r=XOOPN&g=IXXOJNQLIPVF is direct flv. the requests after that seem to trigger the unthrottling from the streaming server. |
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aleatoryb |
requesting without the gunk after the ? returns 403 forbidden. But it's public domain! :P |
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godane |
very weird |
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godane |
its its not even going in real time |
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godane |
also 2g is very big for this video |
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aleatoryb |
yes.. and yes. |
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aleatoryb |
The only thorough documentation on the server is this paper https://www.academia.edu/367387/An_Experimental_Investigation_of_the_Akamai_Adaptive_Video_Streaming |
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aleatoryb |
or http://c3lab.poliba.it/images/d/d8/Akamai_wima2010.pdf if academia.edu throws a login-wall |
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aleatoryb |
I can spend the few hundred hours resuming wgets as they eventually get cut off, but if there's something more straightforward that'd be great :D |
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aleatoryb |
fwiw more recent hearings are much easier to scrape |
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godane |
i noticed this: http://calchannel.granicus.com/ViewPublisherRSS.php?view_id=7&mode=vpodcast |
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godane |
the only problem is it gives good file names in firefox but will not in wget |
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aleatoryb |
yeah, granicus supplies discoverable .mp4 and even captions in .json for full floor proceedings |
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aleatoryb |
they don't do anything with senate committies afaik |
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aleatoryb |
didn't realize they were hosting all the CA legislative stuff, though. that's ... going on the ToDo list |
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aleatoryb |
oh, wget doesn't actually seem to be able to resume these after all. |
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01:14
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aleatoryb |
being able to get a complete file via resumes would at least be something. otherwise I think I'm left to writing letters to akamai and the committee chairs |
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01:16
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godane |
http://www.calchannel.com/recent-archive/ |
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01:16
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godane |
that has files going as far back as 2012 |
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01:16
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aleatoryb |
that's the california legislature, not the senate intel committee |
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godane |
i know |
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godane |
looks like the california legislature is at least all there |
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aleatoryb |
sen intel has realmedia from 2007-2008, these problematic flvs from 2009-2013, and HDS adaptive streaming late 2013-2014/present |
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godane |
never mind |
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godane |
looks like clip 1975 is in 2014 |
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godane |
should be in 2011 based on wayback grabs |
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aleatoryb |
those go back to 2012, requesting lower file IDs seems to get them even if they aren't in the rss |
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aleatoryb |
http://calchannel.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=7&clip_id=13 for instance (some numbers are 'denied', however). any advice on how to archive these crappy flvs from SSCI? |
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HTTP server doesn't seem to support byte ranges. Cannot resume. :[ |
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godane |
aleatoryb: i know of a way |
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aleatoryb |
it's a christmas miracle! |
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03:40
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godane |
with calchannel i can just make a brute force archive of clip_id from 1 to 2400 |
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aleatoryb |
I've done that with other granicus collections. But that doesn't cover these FLVs |
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godane |
they have mp4 and mp3 files in the warc.gz html files |
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03:43
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aleatoryb |
like http://ussenate-f.akamaihd.net/intel092110.flv?v=3.1.0&fp=LNX%2011,2,202,425&r=XOOPN&g=IXXOJNQLIPVF -- and 25 or so others like it |
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godane |
found the m3u8 file: http://ussenate-f.akamaihd.net/i/intel092110.flv/master.m3u8 |
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aleatoryb |
interesting. ffmpeg produced 1 minute of silent audio from that m3u8 |
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aleatoryb |
ve haff ways of making you talk! (this is the same committee that produced the report on cia torture a couple weeks ago :P ) |
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aleatoryb |
well what have we here? http://ussenate-f.akamaihd.net/i/intel092110.flv/index_0_a.m3u8?e=b471643725c47acd - lots of segment files |
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aleatoryb |
lots of 3 second audio files in there as mpeg transport streams |
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aleatoryb |
ffmpeg reads it as a ~1.5 hour mp3, but when I tell it to remux it breaks on a 404 about a minute in. Some of these work, though. Could be a good sound art project in these fragments. |
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