[00:30] *** mistym has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [00:41] *** wyatt8750 has joined #archiveteam [00:41] any idea why archive.org thinks I have a robots.txt when I don't? [00:41] found when I did this http://web.archive.org/web/20150407003912/http://wyatt8740.no-ip.org/git-glkterm-win32.tar.xz [00:42] links me to http://wyatt8740.no-ip.org/robots.txt [00:42] but that file has never existed and never will [00:44] I just want to archive some source code on my site ;_; [00:44] *** BlueMaxim has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [00:45] From what has been said here, they are working on fixing on robots.txt issues but I don't know the specifics. [00:46] *** WizCry is now known as WizardCry [00:46] ah, okay [00:46] so it's not some scary DNS spoofing thing that's messing with my site [00:49] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [00:49] *** beardicus has quit IRC (My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) [01:01] *** Andy_ has joined #archiveteam [01:01] *** Andy_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [01:08] *** Froggypwn has quit IRC (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~) [01:09] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:23] *** Froggypwn has joined #archiveteam [01:24] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam [01:25] *** godane has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [01:27] *** mistym has quit IRC (Leaving...) [01:31] apparently there was an issue where, if robots.txt was 404 on one subdomain it would try others [01:31] and I notice https://www.noip.com/robots.txt disallows everything [01:31] so it might work if you create a permissive robots.txt [01:31] awkward [01:37] *** godane has joined #archiveteam [02:08] *** godane has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [02:17] i have never made a robots.txt. is it just allow-all / [02:17] 'allow-all /'* [02:17] user-agent: * [02:17] allow: * [02:18] or allow: / [02:18] i've made them before with just the text [02:18] # Go for it. [02:20] *** wacky has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [02:20] *** thefinn93 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [02:21] *** thefinn93 has joined #archiveteam [02:26] *** Coderjoe has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [02:26] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam [02:31] *** wacky has joined #archiveteam [02:36] *** Ymgve has quit IRC () [02:39] *** BlueMaxim has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 512 seconds) [02:39] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam [02:41] *** Coderjoe has joined #archiveteam [02:47] not working [02:48] this is right, isn't it? http://wyatt8740.no-ip.org/robots.txt [02:49] You might try "User-agent" and "Allow" instead of the lowercase versions. [02:50] still nothing [02:51] anyway, is it probably going to be fixed oon? [02:51] can I just wait? [02:51] the page is still up, i'm just trying to make sure its backed up [02:55] try "Allow: /"? but you should be able to wait just fine, we can grab a copy as well :) [02:55] *** Wolfie has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [02:56] did try that too. thanks. I think it was backed up once before but a few things have changed [02:57] It might take awhile for the crawler or whatever checks to notice. [02:57] that's alright [02:58] so someone told it to do it? because I've forgotten the channel that you do it from [03:12] *** BlueMaxim has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 306 seconds) [03:22] wyatt8750: You probably want #archivebot, but I think only +v people there can actually submit jobs. Just ask in there for someone to do it, and they'll put it in for you. 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[04:51] *** Nemo_bis has joined #archiveteam [04:51] *** raylee has joined #archiveteam [04:51] *** altlabel has joined #archiveteam [04:51] *** ny.us.hub sets mode: +oo balrog raylee [04:51] *** swebb sets mode: +o SketchCow [04:51] *** swebb sets mode: +o ersi [04:51] *** swebb sets mode: +o xmc [04:51] *** swebb sets mode: +o balrog [04:54] *** achip has joined #archiveteam [05:02] *** BlueMaxim has quit IRC (Client Quit) [05:24] *** wp494 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 740 seconds) [05:25] *** achip has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [05:27] *** wp494 has joined #archiveteam [05:28] *** achip has joined #archiveteam [05:56] *** godane has joined #archiveteam [06:10] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam [06:34] *** primus104 has joined #archiveteam [06:41] *** freespiri has joined #archiveteam [06:42] is this channel for wayback machine ? [06:42] well... no [06:43] I do not know if the wayback machine has its own channel [06:43] darn it [06:43] would you happen to know of any site worth archiving? [06:44] we like to archive websites [06:45] i wanted to figure out how I could search wayback machine or the web for 2005 apartment comments that could have been deleted over time [06:48] archiving comments from individuals could be important especially around the time of a serious crime.. i think so [06:49] at present, Wayback's main search interface is by URL [06:49] so you'll need to know the URL, or a prefix, to access archives [06:50] in future full-text search might come online but that's a way down the road [06:52] yipdw: I noticed its uses url but when i go to that url, i cannot search the website for past comments [06:53] website search typically hits a server program, and Wayback doesn't emulate those [06:53] what's the URL? [06:54] http://www.apartmentratings.com [06:54] I mean of the comments [06:55] you might have better luck hitting a spiderable index, e.g. http://web.archive.org/web/20050727013705/http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/vcs/index.html [06:55] or http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/vcs/index.html for all versions [06:56] http://www.apartmentratings.com/tx/san-antonio/the-place-at-shadow-valley_210647103378238/review-1280905/ [06:57] i want to find all past comments involving this murder [06:57] the only match for a prefix is http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.apartmentratings.com/tx/san-antonio/ [06:57] that particular URL doesn't exist [06:58] that said, it is a live URL, so you can add it to Wayback [06:58] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [06:59] I've pasted all the comments that i can find in websleuths .. it isnt in Wayback? [07:01] it isn't but you don't need Wayback to find it [07:01] http://www.apartmentratings.com/tx/san-antonio/the-place-at-shadow-valley_210647103378238/review-305823/ [07:02] *** mistym has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:03] It's hard for me to believe that none of the girls neighbors hard anything or commented on this somewhere .. yeah i saw that .. i went through all the comments one by one until i got to 2005 but i am sure allot were deleted [07:06] it's difficult to archive that page because URLs to new reviews only show up on mouse interaction [07:08] thats so disappointing :( [07:08] * yipdw shrugs [07:08] it's a difficult page to archive [07:08] read this and you will see why http://www.apartmentratings.com/tx/san-antonio/the-place-at-shadow-valley_210647103378238/review-111205335/ [07:08] I found http://www.ksat.com/content/pns/ksat/news/2013/02/22/crime-stoppers-need-help-in-heather-ann-willms-murder-case.html [07:09] and I'm stopping here because I'm really not interested in reading about murder cases [07:09] it's too grim [07:09] freespiri: if you have law enforcement on your site you might want to get in touch with IA directly [07:10] I know about all the news articles.. I asked a news reporter friend to do another news story on her [07:11] Ive been bugging them to reopen this cold case [07:12] it should have never gone cold.. just sayin [07:13] what we can do for you is help archive the current state of those pages and provide tools to keep it under closer control [07:13] however, reviews for that particular complex seem to be limited to a fetch on 3/16/2015 [07:14] :) thankyou yipdw [07:14] "The appliances are out of date and the maintenance doesnt fix the real problem they just jerry rig it to make it work for a while." [07:14] sounds like every landlord ever [07:15] true.. true xmc [07:15] freespiri: that said schbirid has a good idea; if you can get law enforcement involved (again) IA might have additional materials [07:16] (maybe; Wayback is usually pretty clear about what it has and doesn't have) [07:19] yipdw: my cousin is friends with a homicide detective and he is also on my Facebook... trust me !! i have bugged him allot about this.. he would have to bug Leon Valley and I do not think Leon Valley competent [07:21] freespiri: I initiated an archivebot job to grab all reviews on that page; see http://dashboard.at.ninjawedding.org/?showNicks=1 [07:22] results typically appear in Wayback within a day of job completion [07:22] I'm sorry i brought up a grim topic .. omg, thankyou yipdw [07:22] extracting URLs from that page sucks [07:22] it's all onclick handlers in divs [07:23] freespiri: anyway, one thing you can do to record what you find is to use https://webrecorder.io/ [07:23] *** yipdw has left [07:23] *** yipdw has joined #archiveteam [07:23] you browse through it and it saves what you see [07:23] then you can download the results as a WARC, which is Wayback-compatible [07:24] this is all easy for you but not for the police.. i totally will , thankyou [07:27] i'm bookmarking your sites.. hold on [07:34] *** freespiri has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [07:43] *** freespiri has joined #archiveteam [07:44] i got booted [07:44] so i had to reboot in Ubuntu [07:50] yipdw: i was trying to say.. i am sorry if i brought up a grim topic. If i could find other valuable links to archive I would except there is not much about this cold case on the internet .. thats why i wanted to dig for other forums and comments sites that discussed these apartments [07:50] or this case [07:51] that's just my personal reaction to this subject; no need to apologize for it [07:51] I hope you do find something out there because cold cases are horrible to deal with on all sides [07:54] anything brought to the surface could only help catching the person capable of doing something like this.. I do think programmers have allot to offer when dealing with issues like this.. this is why i respect you guys so much :) [08:11] if programmers came together and created something easy for parents who have lost a son or daughter to a murderer that searched for things people might be discussing on the web about their children or loved ones would be a blessing ..especially if the tool helped catch the person responsible... but i know this type of tool might be impossible yipdw people always talk .. [08:14] *** rolfb has joined #archiveteam [08:16] possibly you overestimate what can be done with softare [08:17] what do you mean? [08:19] xmc ? [08:29] not impossible, just really expensive right now [08:29] :) [08:29] and potentially requires being the NSA [08:32] the NSA does not care about parents who are grieving or catching murderers !! They only care about the themselves, governemt [08:36] (it was a joke) [08:38] sadly I couldn’t help but wonder if Leon Valley Police even put the DNA found at the scene into codis.. especially after it clicked to me that a similar homicide happened years later a few miles away from this girls apartment.. [08:39] Seems like it's time to move this to our off-topic channel at #archiveteam-bs instead, as it's not a discussion about actual archiving anymore. [08:40] http://www.kens5.com/story/news/local/2014/06/27/10640982/ [08:41] opps.. sorry ersi thought i posted it there [08:42] np, just saying [08:55] I was about to to leave since its really late .. Before i do, I just wanted to tell xmc , thankyou for the laugh about the apartments and the comment. Peoples comments are sometimes the funniest thing to read. Also yipdw thank-you so much for your help with the archiving.. ersi my main purpose here was to ask about retrieving past archives and archiving comments that parents or family... [08:55] ...members could search related to a murder. i would love for this conversation to be archived so interested programmers could see it and program software that is needed... Gnight ALL.. and thankyou again [08:59] *** freespiri has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0/20150328224110]) [09:01] *** rolfb has quit IRC (Leaving...) 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[17:41] Now I just gotta figure out how to use docker. [17:42] *** Start has quit IRC (Disconnected.) [17:50] awesome. bookmarked to run on a machine at home [17:54] Hi anomie [17:54] docker was vastly easier than VirtualBox for me on fedora [17:55] All right. I'll check it out. [18:06] *** habi1 has left [18:08] chfoo: can you please add the layervault project to projects.json? [18:09] #layersalt [18:09] *** Wolfie has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [18:10] LayerVault project will start today! [18:12] arkiver: ok. added. [18:13] thanks! 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