#archiveteam 2015-04-29,Wed

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00:55 🔗 DFJustin ooh floppy images of pc software is hard to come by
00:56 🔗 DFJustin make sure to write protect disks before imaging
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02:20 🔗 dashcloud if you're interested, I can point you to some I just uploaded
02:55 🔗 DFJustin definitely, there's a work in progress hash database in the MESS project https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/master/hash/ibm5170.xml
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03:05 🔗 dashcloud just paste the links here (~5 or so) or put them in a pastebin?
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03:08 🔗 DFJustin pastebin works
03:12 🔗 dashcloud http://pastebin.com/S2rAapw8
03:14 🔗 DFJustin thanks
03:16 🔗 dashcloud I wasn't trying to make archive-grade images at the time, so apologies if the dumps aren't good enough for the project
03:21 🔗 DFJustin are they all from commercial disks or are there homemade copies
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05:21 🔗 SketchCow I need the halo project to halt for at least a day.
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05:58 🔗 SketchCow I went into #yolohalo to mention it, but seriously, we need to freeze halo.
05:59 🔗 SketchCow I watched free space go down 80gb in less than 30 minutes and that with a window doing NOTHING but rm's of uploaded materials.
05:59 🔗 SketchCow Like, it's off there trying to rm as fast as it can and it's still going down. Machine is at 100 load.
06:00 🔗 xmc hm
06:00 🔗 xmc how do i tell the tracker to stop handing out jobs
06:00 🔗 SketchCow I don't know.
06:00 🔗 xmc me neither!
06:00 🔗 xmc look ma no hands
06:00 🔗 SketchCow The machine! It has outgrown us!
06:00 🔗 SketchCow You must teach it to love, and then break its heart
06:00 🔗 xmc what if i set requests per minute to 0
06:01 🔗 xmc let's see!
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06:03 🔗 xmc well it seems to be denying new requests
06:03 🔗 xmc so
06:03 🔗 SketchCow good
06:03 🔗 xmc It Gets Better (TM)
06:04 🔗 SketchCow That's the big one right now
06:04 🔗 SketchCow I don't want to murder the others because they are on timescales we don't know
06:04 🔗 SketchCow like last.fm needs to be done asap, etc.
06:05 🔗 xmc hooray i know how to work the computer thing
06:05 🔗 SketchCow We got 100gb back
06:06 🔗 SketchCow Another 5. Dfinitely making a difference.
06:06 🔗 xmc that was fast
06:08 🔗 trs80 do you need another rsync target? I could dump some ia.bak for space
06:09 🔗 trs80 although kenshin is probably better
06:09 🔗 SketchCow ia.bak isn't part of this
06:10 🔗 SketchCow 40 more gigs back
06:10 🔗 SketchCow This is FOS, which is the rsync point for a bunch of things
06:10 🔗 SketchCow And that's fine - it's just Halo is 1. very efficient and 2. massive
06:10 🔗 xmc http://www.france-metallurgie.com/wp-content/Creusot-Forge.jpg
06:10 🔗 xmc ^ fos
06:11 🔗 SketchCow So everything else was fighting it. Meanwhile we have 3 terabytes of Halo left to upload from it.
06:11 🔗 SketchCow It'll bang through all it in a short while, it's just the massive uploading was slowing it way too down.
06:12 🔗 SketchCow Load has gone from 101.7 to 84.3
06:12 🔗 SketchCow That's how bad
06:12 🔗 xmc what
06:12 🔗 xmc do the numbers even go that high
06:12 🔗 SketchCow I watched a machine hit 1001
06:12 🔗 SketchCow Back in the days
06:13 🔗 xmc computers hate this one weird trick
06:13 🔗 SketchCow Classic "well, there's yer problem"
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06:13 🔗 xmc we were handing out about 5 items a minute, and it looks like each item is a few dozen mbytes
06:14 🔗 xmc 30mbytes 5x/minute => about 2mbytes/sec
06:14 🔗 xmc so
06:14 🔗 xmc not too small
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07:11 🔗 augusztin well, baraza is certainly a quickly moving project :)
07:12 🔗 augusztin Kenshin does the grunt of the work when it comes to actual downloads :D
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10:33 🔗 vOYtEC hiya, i have openvz vps [unlimited bandwidth] which can not run virtualbox, may i join to ArchiveTeam Warriot in any other way?
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10:38 🔗 SmileyG yes, you can run the code directly
10:40 🔗 SmileyG http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page -- theres a list of projects to choose from, those which can be run manually will details how on their projectp age
10:42 🔗 Infreq vOYtEC: theres the option of running the warrior within a docker container, if that's still too much overhead the warrior scripts can be run manually
10:43 🔗 SmileyG ^^
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10:53 🔗 vOYtEC SmileyG, which project is most demanded? i see some of them have limited life. i mean, which project is worth to support?
10:53 🔗 vOYtEC Infreq, thanks - i will take a look on that
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10:55 🔗 SmileyG I'm not sure atm, I'm not upto date with all the projects,.
10:56 🔗 Infreq vOYtEC: currently it's baraza disco and grab
10:56 🔗 Infreq but it's really up to you where you want to put your bandwidth to use :p
10:58 🔗 vOYtEC Infreq, great, will join to baraza then; it's nicely explained installation on github, thank you :)
11:00 🔗 Infreq yw
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11:06 🔗 vOYtEC ...and it's working now, great thing
11:07 🔗 dashcloud DFJustin: they all should be images of the original disk
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12:05 🔗 gui7 hey, I'm getting an error when running ./get-wget-lua.sh
12:06 🔗 gui7 I pasted the end of the error message here: http://pastebin.com/0VebaHVi
12:06 🔗 gui7 I think this is an error I had on another project some other time, and someone helped me solve it. something about compiling documentation or something and I had to move a file out of a tmp folder? any ideas?
12:07 🔗 gui7 I should have added - this is for the baraza project
12:18 🔗 Infreq naa it's a gereral error with pod2man quick fix is just use 12.04 over 14.04
12:20 🔗 Infreq or you can dig round and try and fix the perl 5.18 bug
12:29 🔗 Infreq all ears if anybody has another way to fix thou :p
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15:56 🔗 chfoo i should probably put the latest wget+lua tarball to wherever it grabs it from
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16:13 🔗 SketchCow load on fos is down to 5.
16:13 🔗 ersi RELEASE THE FLOOD GATES!
16:14 🔗 SketchCow nope
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17:11 🔗 SimpBrain vs code for win/nix/mac https://code.visualstudio.com/Download archive worthy?
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17:18 🔗 www2 can some one add this forum treaths for archiving? http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=29276.0 and http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36313.0
17:19 🔗 www2 where the 36313 is current ative threat software that use is Simple Machines
17:20 🔗 augusztin SimpBrain: what do you want to archive ? i doubt it will disappear
17:20 🔗 augusztin SimpBrain: you can still get older VS Foundation or Express releases
17:21 🔗 SimpBrain ah right, dont previews disappear from the limelight?
17:21 🔗 augusztin where do you see it being preview ?
17:22 🔗 www2 the reason is that this is a discution about a possible breakthrough in space travel (i speak about Faster than light)
17:23 🔗 www2 * Faster than light travel
17:24 🔗 joepie91 that's tricky to archive
17:24 🔗 joepie91 hold
17:25 🔗 Kazzy augusztin: top left corner of the page he linked
17:26 🔗 SimpBrain it's part of the ms build going on
17:27 🔗 augusztin Kazzy: oh... well, whatever then :). It's not like they will kill the product. Also aren't previews usually timelocked anyway ?
17:27 🔗 joepie91 www2: http://dashboard.at.ninjawedding.org/?showNicks=1
17:28 🔗 joepie91 should be running nopw
17:28 🔗 joepie91 now *
17:28 🔗 joepie91 the one at the top
17:28 🔗 www2 thx
17:29 🔗 joepie91 www2: in case you want to wget a local copy: http://sprunge.us/aUbf
17:29 🔗 joepie91 that's the list of page URLs
17:30 🔗 augusztin joepie91: does that have support for sitemaps ? (just asking for future)
17:31 🔗 joepie91 augusztin: archivebot? no idea tbh :P
17:31 🔗 joepie91 chfoo or yipdw might know
17:31 🔗 joepie91 in this case I just wrote a quick script to generate all the page URLs
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17:32 🔗 augusztin joepie91: i mean that for example i developed a site which is just a giant database for marathon runner results. normally via wget you are unable to get to all results, you need to submit forms. but at same time there is a sitemap, which links ALL the webpages
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17:32 🔗 augusztin all the ~290k or so links :)
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17:33 🔗 joepie91 augusztin: why does it require submitting forms?
17:34 🔗 www2 i found a rss feed for nasaspaceflight.com https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss
17:34 🔗 augusztin joepie91: well you usually search via forms :)
17:34 🔗 augusztin joepie91: there is not much sense in listing all the 290k runners, races etc on one single page
17:35 🔗 joepie91 augusztin: not one single page, but that doesn't mean you can't/shouldn't list it in categories
17:35 🔗 joepie91 :)
17:35 🔗 augusztin joepie91: while at same time you get something like http://more.arrs.net/sitemap/sitemapindex.xml , that links to txt list
17:36 🔗 augusztin i mean sitemap is pretty well defined standard, so it might be good to support it for archviebot ?
17:36 🔗 joepie91 augusztin: right. Google can read that, but not all bots necessarily can, and humans definitely can't
17:36 🔗 joepie91 in theory, yes
17:36 🔗 joepie91 but you still shouldn't develop your stuff that way
17:36 🔗 joepie91 :p
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17:36 🔗 augusztin (i develop it according to client's requirements ;)
17:38 🔗 joepie91 augusztin: the idea that the client knows best is nonsense
17:38 🔗 joepie91 you're hired as a developer because your experience and knowledge is in that field
17:38 🔗 joepie91 part of that experience and knowledge is that it's a stupid idea to build a site that way
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17:38 🔗 joepie91 if a client is wrong, then a client should be told they are wrong
17:39 🔗 joepie91 if they knew perfectly how everything should work, they wouldn't have had to hire a developer
17:39 🔗 augusztin joepie91: my point was just that supporting sitemap would be a good idea, being standardized and all
17:40 🔗 joepie91 augusztin: right - as I said, it would be, but it's still a dumb idea to build a site like that :)
17:41 🔗 aaaaaaaaa wpull, and by extension the bot will follow standard-compliant sitemaps to the text files, but I don't know if it's link extraction will work on those text lists.
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17:44 🔗 balrog relevant: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/29/verizon-warns-fios-user-over-excessive-use-of-unlimited-data/
17:44 🔗 garyrh "unlimited"
17:44 🔗 augusztin $315
17:45 🔗 augusztin sounds horrible to me
17:45 🔗 augusztin considering i could get 250/250 optical with iptv for 30 euros :P
17:52 🔗 SmileyG hmmm
17:52 🔗 SmileyG :D
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17:52 🔗 SmileyG i wish i could.
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17:53 🔗 aaaaaaaaa 525 down from my ISP would cost me just under $1 200 a month for six months and $1 500 for the remaining 30 months.
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18:02 🔗 augusztin aaaaaaaaa: and 2nd biggest city in slovakia has https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZFRwxfS0kA for ~20 euros
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18:05 🔗 yipdw augusztin: yeah, wpull uses sitemaps as one of its URL sources
18:06 🔗 yipdw provided that it's a sitemap.xml
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18:15 🔗 yipdw augusztin: if you can generate all the URLs, another way to ensure coverage is to generate that list and feed it into archivebot as a text file
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19:34 🔗 augusztin http://techcrunch.com/2015/04/29/psst/ i guess this has nothing for us
19:34 🔗 augusztin "Anonymous sharing app Secret will shut down soon, according to sources close to the company. The announcement could be made as soon as today or tomorrow"
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20:05 🔗 SketchCow Back home
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20:14 🔗 midas welcome back
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21:11 🔗 SketchCow OUYA revealed to put itself on the auction block
21:11 🔗 SketchCow Suggest channel #KNEWYA
21:14 🔗 xmc seconded
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21:29 🔗 ersi saw that coming, but then again, who didn't
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21:33 🔗 xmc basically
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21:36 🔗 SketchCow Knewya kicks me out
21:37 🔗 SketchCow Oh wait
21:37 🔗 SketchCow (You have joined to too many channels)
21:37 🔗 SketchCow YES
21:37 🔗 SketchCow YESSSSS
21:37 🔗 ersi #winning
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21:50 🔗 SketchCow Tomorrow I go to NYC
21:50 🔗 SketchCow Then Atlanta on Friday
21:50 🔗 SketchCow Then California on Sunday
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21:51 🔗 SketchCow Then Minneapolis. Then to Los Angeles. Then to Virginia.
21:52 🔗 dinomite_ What's happening in Virginia?
21:52 🔗 dinomite_ is now known as dinomite
21:52 🔗 xmc like a shark, if you stop moving you die
21:52 🔗 SketchCow RVASec
21:52 🔗 SketchCow I'm giving a unique talk there.
21:52 🔗 SketchCow "Machines of Loving Grace", exploring decades of computer advertisement lies
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22:08 🔗 DFJustin oh good, watching every talk has started getting repetitive lol
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22:17 🔗 xmc you know you can maintain your membership-in-good-standing of archiveteam without watching all the SketchCow talks, right?
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22:21 🔗 SketchCow Well, you don't get keys to the sauna
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22:30 🔗 SketchCow Hey, I found a City of Heroes CD-ROM (2 CDs) from 2005!
22:31 🔗 godane cool
22:32 🔗 godane i uploaded a demo of world of warcraft from 2006 once
22:32 🔗 godane it was part of a maximum pc dvd
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22:42 🔗 SketchCow I'm just getting every CD-ROM I can visually see from my chair.
22:42 🔗 SketchCow Pretty crazy
22:43 🔗 godane i found earlier how to grab old c-span video from c-span.org
22:43 🔗 godane i'm not sort of you guys want me to go after it but i can if you want
22:44 🔗 godane its most likely going to be uploaded like i did with reuters and cbsnews
22:44 🔗 godane all video of that day in one item
22:46 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: me and achip are currently working on a mail-newsletter archive script
22:46 🔗 arkiver achip is looking into a permanent domain for the mail
22:48 🔗 arkiver Plan is to subscribe to every single newsletter, spam, etc. and store what we receive
22:48 🔗 arkiver #projectnewsletter
22:48 🔗 godane hmm
22:48 🔗 godane can i get my gmail into mbox format?
22:49 🔗 godane just thing of a way to download all of gmail
22:49 🔗 arkiver not sure if you can do that, I guess you can
22:49 🔗 godane i have mail of all of most of theblaze newsletter
22:49 🔗 nox gmail has an export all mail function now last i used it it was mbox format
22:51 🔗 SketchCow Excellent idea.
22:51 🔗 nox https://www.google.com/settings/takeout
22:52 🔗 arkiver I estimate interface and scripts are ready in 1 or 2 months
22:52 🔗 arkiver most important issue is we have to find a permanent domain
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23:21 🔗 xmc gmane has a thingy to do this already
23:24 🔗 SketchCow Down in the WEEDS with the CD-ROM/DVD-ROMs
23:24 🔗 SketchCow Stamps.Com starter disks. Disney "Online Club" booters. Baldur's Gate
23:25 🔗 * pikhq suspects Baldur's Gate has little reason to be archived.
23:25 🔗 pikhq Though of course it also has little cost.
23:25 🔗 pikhq What's a gig between friends?
23:26 🔗 garyrh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
23:38 🔗 godane i liked the first ps2 game of baldur's gate
23:47 🔗 * xmc ships a crate of cds to SketchCow
23:48 🔗 xmc it's like i'm halo and you're fos
23:50 🔗 SketchCow I'm just going through everything.

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