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[06:38] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [07:28] So I'd like to start a fundraiser for the bigger projects we do [07:29] I think it is possible to get a few thousand or tenthousands of dollar for project like blip.tv for storage on IA [07:30] Assuming $2000/TB we'd need around $180000 to $200000 for the blip.tv project [07:31] I think the $2000/TB estimate is now a few years old, so that might have dropped by a few hundred dollars, anyone has an idea how much it would be today? [07:45] SketchCow: what do you think of having a fundraiser for our more bigger project? I think we can get enough donation when it comes to popular sites like blip.tv [07:54] I think we can get some tech newssites to post a newsitem about our fundraiser and our project [08:09] SketchCow: could you please change the dns for tracker.archiveteam.org to point towards zloty.xrtc.net sunday around 18-20:00 eastern time [08:12] *** pokeball9 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:19] *** mistym has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [08:34] *** trs80 has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.umich.edu) [08:51] *** Spritecla has quit IRC (Quit: [Quit message changed because SOME-body is an asshole.]) [09:13] *** ruukasu has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [09:17] *** ruukasu has joined #archiveteam [09:17] SketchCow: I wrote a bit of text for a fundraiser on GoFundMe for blip.tv. I'll PM you when you are online. 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[11:13] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:14] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [11:27] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Client Quit) [11:28] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [11:30] *** godane has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [12:09] *** oldcad has joined #archiveteam [12:09] we've had discussions about fundraising before iirc [12:09] Tho that was more about funding archiveteam.... which wouldn't make sense, unless it was hiring storage/servers for us. [12:10] However fundraising for IA would be seperate from ArchiveTeam, tho it'd be a product of our needs... [12:10] *** nmnn has joined #archiveteam [12:41] We raise, say $200000 for blip.tv, and send it all to IA, I'm not seeing the problem there [12:45] I think $200000 is realistic, blip.tv has 500 million monthly views and 40 million unique users each month [12:45] If we can raise $350000 we'll also do all version of the videos and really save the website 100% [12:46] versions* [12:49] You'd need to choose one of those crowdfunding platforms where no money moves until the project is confirmed [12:49] Why? [12:50] GoFundMe is a platform on which we don't have to reach the limit, so anything can go to the project [12:50] Doesn't sound honest [12:50] Especially as the *Me* part is wrong, you are not IA [12:53] Could also try https://snowdrift.coop/ [12:53] I'll have a look at it [12:55] I'm not sure about that websites, it isn't well known, people might not fully trust it and it looks like the website itself isn't totally finished yet [12:55] The funding platform should be well known, that way we can get more funding for the projects [12:59] *** nmnn has quit IRC (west.us.hub irc.eversible.com) [12:59] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (west.us.hub irc.eversible.com) [12:59] *** dugo has quit IRC (west.us.hub irc.eversible.com) [12:59] *** SadDM has quit IRC (west.us.hub irc.eversible.com) [12:59] *** wednesday has quit IRC (west.us.hub irc.eversible.com) [12:59] *** dan- has quit IRC (west.us.hub irc.eversible.com) [12:59] *** estrabd has quit IRC (west.us.hub irc.eversible.com) [12:59] *** DFJustinZ has quit IRC (west.us.hub irc.eversible.com) [12:59] *** xmc has quit IRC (west.us.hub irc.eversible.com) [12:59] *** kniffy has quit IRC (west.us.hub irc.eversible.com) [13:03] *** nmnn_ has joined #archiveteam [13:04] *** Froggypwn has joined #archiveteam [13:05] *** dugo_ has joined #archiveteam [13:08] *** kniffy has joined #archiveteam [13:08] *** DFJustinZ has joined #archiveteam [13:08] *** dan- has joined #archiveteam [13:08] *** wednesday has joined #archiveteam [13:08] *** estrabd has joined #archiveteam [13:08] *** xmc has joined #archiveteam [13:08] *** irc.eversible.com sets mode: +o xmc [13:08] *** swebb sets mode: +o xmc [13:09] *** SadDM has joined #archiveteam [13:09] *** swebb sets mode: +o SadDM [13:10] I hope people are not throwing money at stuff just because they happen to advertise themselves on a famous domain [13:10] I hope that too, but that is I think how it goes [13:11] I doubt it, most funding drives fail [13:11] With funding drives you mean the projects of people who want funding? [13:12] No, I mean the crowdfunding itself for them [13:12] ok [13:12] So what do you think would be the advantage from snowdrift.coop over gofundme? [13:13] I have watched the video, but I didn't get the whole I idea I'm afraid [13:13] Using a large crowdfunding platform is mostly useful if you think you have a very large (or dispersed) audience and no alternative way to reach it. Then the internal social network of the platform, internal ads, newsletters etc. make a big difference [13:13] And why would snowdrift.coop be more useful? [13:14] I'm not advocating for it, just added one option :) [13:14] Yeah, I know, I'd just like to know what you think [13:14] Considering all of them [13:14] We might try both [13:14] See how it goes [13:14] But gotta talk to SketchCow about this first [13:15] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [13:23] 200k is crazy much money [13:24] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [13:26] *** BlueMaxim has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:28] *** mistym has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [13:32] *** Jonimus has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [13:38] *** antomati_ has joined #archiveteam [13:38] *** swebb sets mode: +o antomati_ [13:39] *** antomatic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [13:47] *** Jonimus has joined #archiveteam [14:20] *** RichardG has joined #archiveteam [14:36] *** primus104 has quit IRC (Leaving.) [15:19] *** Ungstein has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [15:20] *** Ungstein has joined #archiveteam [15:25] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [15:35] *** mistym has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:09] *** primus104 has joined #archiveteam [16:23] *** godane has joined #archiveteam [16:35] *** nmnn_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:35] *** Stiletto has joined #archiveteam [16:37] *** Stilett0 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:41] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [16:41] *** aMunster has joined #archiveteam [16:45] yeah [16:47] *** nmnn_ has joined #archiveteam [17:25] Do we have any way of capturing live twitch streams? [17:25] It'll be on youtube at _some_ point, but that looses the comments, if want them too [17:34] Summer Games Done Quick is the event [17:34] it's on Twitch.tv [17:35] What is the link? [17:38] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [17:40] http://www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick [17:41] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [17:41] SketchCow: we have started the grab of userprofiles of last.fm! [17:44] I'm not sure we can preserve the comments of the livestreams [17:44] it should be possible, but not with wpull or wget or such tools likely [17:48] the chat is based on irc protocol supposedly [17:54] *** SimpBrain has joined #archiveteam [17:57] you can join one chat at a time [17:57] check out Chatty [17:58] stream itself is easy with livestreamer [18:17] *** signius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 306 seconds) [18:17] *** Spritecla has joined #archiveteam [18:19] *** gui77 has joined #archiveteam [18:28] what mediawiki plugin runs your captcha? [18:29] captcha? [18:29] well [18:29] *** signius has joined #archiveteam [18:29] the thing that directs people here to ask "WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD" [18:29] and accepts a response [18:29] i think it's just a password box thingy [18:29] huh [18:29] mk [18:30] * xmc shrug [18:40] *** SN4T14__ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:41] *** SN4T14 has joined #archiveteam [18:42] *** tomwsmf-a has joined #archiveteam [18:54] *** nmnn_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [19:42] *** Stilett0 has joined #archiveteam [19:44] *** aaaaaaaaa has joined #archiveteam [19:44] *** swebb sets mode: +o aaaaaaaaa [19:45] *** Stiletto has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:48] *** Stiletto has joined #archiveteam [19:50] *** Stilett0 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 306 seconds) [20:04] arkiver: don't forget that those crowdfunders take a percentage and by going through an intermediary may affect tax deductibility, if not done properly. [20:07] Smiley: capturing video and chat? [20:08] oh nvm [20:10] Rotab: ... :/ [20:23] aaaaaaaaa: yes, I'm aware of that, the amount of money actually going to IA would be bigger if it would be donated directly to IA [20:25] But I also think because IA isn't saying anything on the donationpage about the project (and of course won't say anything about it) and therefor doesn't have some kind of goal of what we want to reach, people are less attracted to donate [20:25] I also think people will faster donate on a well known funding site then on IA's site, but that's just totally what I think [20:26] I'd say just give the crowdfunding on GoFundMe a try and see how it goes [20:26] gofundme is a begging platform [20:26] so? [20:26] don't use it? [20:26] i suggest indiegogo if you want something more crowdfundy [20:26] * xmc shrug [20:26] I'll have a look at it [20:27] HOWEVER don't let me get in the way of money to archive.org [20:28] *** goekesmi has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:32] *** SimpBrain has quit IRC (Leaving) [20:50] *** goekesmi has joined #archiveteam [20:52] xmc: indiegogo looks good to me, indeed less of a 'begging platform', maybe it'd be the best place for our fundraiser [20:53] I think raising $200.000 is not unreasonable, blip.tv had 40 million unique monthly users. [20:53] All we need to do is advertise the fundraiser well, and we should get to our goal [20:54] cool [20:54] well, blip.tv had 40 million freeloaders [21:05] https://support.indiegogo.com/hc/en-us/articles/202530253-How-To-Raise-Funds-For-A-Beneficiary [21:06] "Non-profit Campaigns: If you are raising funds on behalf of a 501c3 non-profit organization, we highly recommend that you contact the 501c3 and let them know you are creating an Indiegogo campaign on their behalf. [21:06] Set the payment options so the funds go directly to the beneficiary by entering the beneficiary’s bank account on your campaign’s Funding tab. " [21:19] SketchCow: I hope you also would like to do a crowdfunding project. [21:20] If we're going to do this I'll do my best creating some good text, images and maybe a video for this project (although a video probably won't happen). 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