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first 150 convertico items uploaded: https://archive.org/details/ConvertICO.comScrapeAugust2015 |
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MEGA as people know it is in danger as kim dotcom isn't involved with it anymore: http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/31/kim-dotcom-is-not-involved-with-mega-anymore-plans-to-build-yet-another-cloud-storage-service/ |
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Guys, the blip.tv grab has started http://tracker.archiveteam.org/blip/ https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/blip-grab #blooper.tv |
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chfoo: can you please make blip archiveteams project of choice? |
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Start: nice! But I think you should make the items web items so they go into the wayback machine |
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http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipes.popular |
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useretail |
Thank you for using Yahoo Pipes! To help focus our efforts on core Yahoo product experiences, users will no longer be able to create new Pipes starting August 30th 2015. The service will be put in read-only mode until we will discontinue Yahoo Pipes on September 30th 2015. |
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thanks you! |
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We are searching for space for the Blip.tv project |
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We got 45T from Kenshin, but we need a lot more then that |
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how much more? |
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damn |
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so we'd need at least 65T more |
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dont have that laying at the moment |
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or will allow me:p |
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Balrog-34 |
hey, how open is AT to archiving controversial content |
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xmc |
archiveteam archives anything |
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xmc |
you may have trouble getting other people interested in your project, but you're welcome to do an archiving project and call it an archiveteam project |
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Balrog-34 |
okay |
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Balrog-34 |
First I would like to say please don't ban me for proposing this |
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Balrog-34 |
Paheal is deleting "underage content" now |
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Balrog-34 |
this is a lot of their image base and contains a whole bunch of very old images which may not be hosted anywhere else because of low quality |
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Balrog-34 |
(for reference, Paheal is a "Rule 34" image gallery website, they'll accept porn of anything no matter what it is how low quality it is-- or at least they used to) |
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Balrog-34 |
I feel that these images are historically important, so I want to rev up a project to save all the images, tags, and metadata |
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Balrog-34 |
actually making the scraper shouldn't be too much hassle, the biggest obstacles would be throttling and Paheal's own shaky servers |
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main problem is finding manpower and infrastructure |
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Balrog-34 |
thoughts? |
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xmc |
i won't touch this |
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Balrog-34 |
I was afraid of that |
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xmc |
that's not controversial, that's illegal in basically everywhere |
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>basically everywhere |
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xmc |
also many people consider it morally repugnant, myself included |
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Balrog-34 |
I already checked and it's not illegal where Internet Archive is based or in large chunks of the uS |
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xmc |
what, underage porn? |
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Balrog-34 |
drawn underage porn |
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RedType |
xmc: well techncially it's not illegal since it's simulated |
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i.e. no children harmed |
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RedType |
but yeah gross |
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Balrog-34 |
I find it rather gross too |
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but it's still historically important |
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FYI, that material can get you in trouble in Canada |
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it's a representative of the "Wild West" days of the Internet when you had all these weird subcultures crawling out of the woodwork (and I don't mean CP rings) |
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yipdw |
I am not particularly inclined to use the Warrior system for this crap, but I am just one admin among many |
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the US already has precedent for drawn lolicon being classed as cp |
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yipdw: yes, I'm aware, and if anybody actually wants to do this I'll be putting the IRC channel on Rizon so nobody gets in trouble |
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kniffy: that precedent got struck down as unconstitutional, federally it's the same as any other porn (i.e. let the states sort it out) |
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believe me, I'm not letting anybody get arrested on my account over this |
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and wait, are the Warrior servers in fact hosted in canada |
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no, they are global |
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okay, so there isn't any central node |
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wasn't familar with that aspect |
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there is a central node but the downloaders are everywhere |
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I really don't feel like putting people out there for some pet porn project |
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it's rude |
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but yeah I want to keep it as separate from AT's infrastructure as it needs to be to avoid getting people in trouble |
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yipdw |
http://warriorhq.archiveteam.org/ lists our current best count of warrior VM locations and projects |
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Balrog-34 |
My interest in saving this dross stems from my general interest in "end of the internet" communities and the early days of the Web when everyone was still figuring things out |
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also, are these map points based on IP or are they self-reported? |
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it's based on GeoIP data, specifically from smart-ip.net |
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https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/warrior-hq/blob/master/geoip.rb has more details |
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okay, I was just curious because of the nodes that are shown in the ocean or on the north pole |
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yipdw |
those are projects |
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yipdw |
those are filled in by whoever added the project to the project manifest |
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ah |
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yipdw |
occasionally they're not filled in or are wrong |
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Balrog-34 |
but yeah, I'm just scraping for interest |
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yipdw |
you may find more interest when .se/.nl come online |
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Balrog-34 |
thanks to my "end of the internet" research (psychology has always fascinated me so I'm really interested in possible underpinnings for all these weirdo communities) |
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Balrog-34 |
er |
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Balrog-34 |
thanks to my research I have an idea of where to go for Warrior downloaders |
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Balrog-34 |
also, yipdw, are you referring to servers or time zones? |
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yipdw |
time ones |
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yipdw |
z |
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xmc |
if you're going to archive cp-esque things, i request you not use the archiveteam name as endorsement |
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Balrog-34 |
xmc: not a problem |
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xmc |
"we're using the tools archiveteam publishes" is ok, "this is an archiveteam project" isn't |
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Balrog-34 |
like I said, I don't want to drag anyone into this |
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Balrog-34 |
if you want in, sure |
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Balrog-34 |
if not, I won't hold it against you |
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Balrog-34 |
I already had some vague marketing copy in mind (marketing is my other great interest) for a sort of bizzarro AT specifically for NSFW/NSFL projects that are too out there to bother the average AT contributor with but still need saving |
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Balrog-34 |
but anyway |
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Balrog-34 |
thanks for listening to me (and not banning me immediately for even proposing this) |
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23:54
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Balrog-34 |
If anyone wants to talk to me about this, see if I'm idling on Rizon |
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Balrog-34 |
I may also post my warrior project here when it's finished to see if anyone's interested |
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Balrog-34 |
(doesn't mean I'll actually want to put it in the AT repo, I'll put it on GitHub or maybe GitGud since those 8chan nerds will be all over this like white on rice) |
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yipdw shrugs, I don't think this is bannable |
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yipdw |
you just hit a personal low point that's all |
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yipdw |
low point for me that is |
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Balrog-34 |
eh, I wouldn't call it a low point |
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23:58
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Balrog-34 |
I'm just a diehard data hoarder with an unhealthy interest in internet history |
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xmc |
near or at the moral nadir of archiveteam so far |
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Balrog-34 |
well, sorry I guess |