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03:04 πŸ”— fie So like, is there a way to get storage medium for free?
03:04 πŸ”— fie Through Valhalla or something else?
03:05 πŸ”— fie Because I have a permanent residence with central AC completely paid off that is at no risk of being sold.
03:05 πŸ”— fie but I'm poor as shit otherwise.
03:06 πŸ”— fie and I run this torrent site for archiving old VHS tapes and home movies and found footage and found audio etc
03:06 πŸ”— fie but it's all stored volatile
03:07 πŸ”— kyan fie: how big is it?
03:07 πŸ”— kyan Usually you can upload stuff to the Internet Archive (https://archive.org)
03:07 πŸ”— kyan as long as it's not huge that should be fine
03:07 πŸ”— fie currently about 500GB and growing all the time. I have no bluray burner and many of my external drives have died.
03:08 πŸ”— fie but I figured if someone could send me some backup medium I could help out with valhalla as well
03:08 πŸ”— asdf 500gb is nothing on the internet archive
03:08 πŸ”— fie Yeah I know right
03:08 πŸ”— fie It might be a little more but it's growing all the time and if I had more space to work with it would grow quickly I have piles and piles of VHS tapes to go through
03:09 πŸ”— asdf but external drives are cheap, why don't buy four and store the 500gb on each of them just to not lose them, at least
03:09 πŸ”— asdf ah right, money
03:09 πŸ”— fie yeah quite
03:09 πŸ”— fie I'm working part time at the dollar general which is becomming intollerable... I want to burn the building down like every time I work the job makes me feel like a robot.
03:10 πŸ”— fie I used to be a web developer for frost bank in texas but through a series of unfortunate events I lost it and now I am in arkansas and there is no work here for me
03:10 πŸ”— fie depending on the job I'm either overqualified or I don't have a college degree so either way they don't want me
03:11 πŸ”— fie Also, I'm on contact with several people from public access
03:12 πŸ”— fie who used to have shows and they have all these tapes laying around
03:12 πŸ”— fie they are interested in getting them ripped but it's a matter of trust or whatever
03:12 πŸ”— fie don't want to send them off.... only copies of ancient shows that if lost are gone foreverzzz
03:13 πŸ”— fie I recently discovered the public access archive on archive.org... I don't know the process for doing that stuff
03:14 πŸ”— fie I guess I'd get in contact with the person in charge of that... I've never put anything on archive.org just keep my own archives
03:14 πŸ”— fie seeekret underground arrrkkives offline and darknetz
03:14 πŸ”— fie haha
03:14 πŸ”— kyan well if you were able to ship the tapes to IA, they have some digitivateon progjeccs
03:14 πŸ”— kyan *digitization projects
03:14 πŸ”— fie so yeah, that's my schpiel... comments suggestions?
03:15 πŸ”— kyan could also ship hard drives, etc. whatever
03:15 πŸ”— fie kyan, I have my own digitization project
03:15 πŸ”— fie Is what I'm saying
03:15 πŸ”— kyan Ok, but you were grumbling about people who have stuff but dont trust you enough to give it to you
03:15 πŸ”— kyan so, maybe they'd trust IA
03:16 πŸ”— fie Oh, well my idea was that I would drive out there
03:16 πŸ”— fie one of the guys I'm sure would let me stay in his basement or something
03:16 πŸ”— fie Mr Let's Paint
03:16 πŸ”— fie from Let's Paint TV
03:17 πŸ”— fie He's a figure head in the LA public access tv scene
03:17 πŸ”— fie so I'd just bring my equipment and setup some online storage and stransfer it back to home base and woron it from there
03:18 πŸ”— fie work on*
03:18 πŸ”— fie He's promised to hook me up with others from the scene
03:18 πŸ”— fie like francine dancer and david libre hart
03:19 πŸ”— asdf maybe he or someone can lend you the drives just to transfer all the files to IA or somewhere else
03:19 πŸ”— asdf drives are cheaper than history
03:19 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa lengthy/off-topic in #archiveteam-bs
03:19 πŸ”— fie they all have tapes
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03:20 πŸ”— fie aaaaaaaaa, lengthy yes but I'm trying to find out info on getting storage which would allow me to contribute to Valhalla
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03:21 πŸ”— fie sorry for my tangents I've been saving up all of this info in my head so I can barrage jason scott next time I see him at con
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04:17 πŸ”— DFJustin fie: you can just register a free account and start uploading away at https://archive.org/upload/
04:17 πŸ”— DFJustin no need to contact anyone in charge necessarily
04:20 πŸ”— fie DFJustin, thanks
04:20 πŸ”— fie I'll check it out at some point
04:20 πŸ”— DFJustin there are already other people uploading vhs type stuff so it would fit in great https://archive.org/details/digitizedfromvhs
04:21 πŸ”— fie some of the stuff needs to stay secret but I want to permanently archive it in case it doesn't exist any more but keep it secret for now
04:21 πŸ”— fie that's probably not the archive.org way though... I don't know
04:21 πŸ”— fie some of it's personal filez
04:21 πŸ”— DFJustin it can be done but you'd have to work it out with jason or someone
04:22 πŸ”— DFJustin anything not secret can just go right up though
04:23 πŸ”— DFJustin if it's already on a torrent you can also upload a torrent file instead of the file itself
04:24 πŸ”— DFJustin archive.org will automatically retrieve the contents
04:31 πŸ”— DFJustin only gotcha is that you generally want to have one "thing" per archive.org item, and not throw 100s of videos onto one item just because they're in a batch torrent or whatever
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08:23 πŸ”— fie DFJustin, it's a private tracker
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10:18 πŸ”— * Atluxity jumps on the ftp-grab
10:20 πŸ”— Atluxity there will be more items for the ftp-grab, right?
10:20 πŸ”— Atluxity ah, #effteepee
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17:31 πŸ”— SketchCow Hello Internet Archive,
17:31 πŸ”— SketchCow GuildPortal (at http://www.guildportal.com/) is/was a commercial site that allowed organizations to create a site for their roleplaying guilds, for such online role-playing games as World of Warcraft.
17:32 πŸ”— SketchCow Many of these guilds had/have forums, news posts, etc. Some of these forums are invaluable information and posts of interest. For example, my guild has a roleplaying forum where hundreds of stories were written and shared about fictional characters.
17:32 πŸ”— SketchCow My guild's forum is/was at http://umbraladvent.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=35136&TabID=312819
17:32 πŸ”— SketchCow GuildPortal announced recently they were shutting down at the end of the month. They don't offer any export tools. My guild has copied most everything to our new site, but not every guild has that luxury.
17:32 πŸ”— SketchCow I think this site would be of interest to future generations and should be archived. In checking around, I see that you have some snapshots for some guilds from 2007, but generally you haven't archived this site recently.
17:32 πŸ”— SketchCow Given the impending loss of these stories and news posts and exchanges, I am wondering if you can set this site for a full crawl?
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17:41 πŸ”— CatButts quick question
17:41 πŸ”— CatButts how much RAM does a Warrior VM munch?
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17:45 πŸ”— phuzion CatButts: By default, 400MB is the maximum memory it's designed to use. That can be adjusted in VirtualBox settings, if necessary, though.
17:47 πŸ”— CatButts I'm pondering wheter to run it on my potatobox PC
17:48 πŸ”— phuzion You can run the scripts directly if you run linux, you know.
17:49 πŸ”— CatButts windoz XP
17:49 πŸ”— CatButts foreva
17:49 πŸ”— CatButts or until potato catches fire
17:49 πŸ”— CatButts hmmmm
17:49 πŸ”— CatButts would the scripts work in cygwin and friends?
17:50 πŸ”— CatButts I wonder
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17:59 πŸ”— DFJustin pls don't
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18:01 πŸ”— CatButts I take that as a no
18:04 πŸ”— phuzion yeah no really don't. Run a VM if you're on Windows.
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18:28 πŸ”— PurpleSym Discovery for GuildPortal should be fairly easy. For every <id>: guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=<id>
18:28 πŸ”— PurpleSym There’s also a β€œserver list” with links to subdomains.
18:30 πŸ”— PurpleSym http://paste.ubuntu.com/13649327/
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18:41 πŸ”— achip server list from the browse page, if you view in /raw the cyrillic characters may get a little wonky on the russian servers http://paste.nerds.io/paboqutike
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20:18 πŸ”— PurpleSym All subdomains from GuildPortal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13651101/
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20:50 πŸ”— Start http://business.financialpost.com/fp-tech-desk/personal-tech/farewell-songza-google-inc-shutting-down-music-streaming-service-it-acquired-in-2014
20:50 πŸ”— Start "Farewell, Songza: Google Inc shutting down music streaming service it acquired in 2014"
20:52 πŸ”— schbirid someone archive http://www.filedropper.com/exlcomtestrelease_1 please https://www.reddit.com/r/Xcom/comments/3umiec/i_made_an_xcom_game_in_excel/
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21:49 πŸ”— Knoeki I'm not sure, maybe this isn't the right place, maybe someone knows how to get this kinda shit to the right people: http://www.ebay.de/itm/272064814897
21:49 πŸ”— Knoeki would be good if that stuff ended in the right hands
21:49 πŸ”— Knoeki for the sake of ripping it
21:50 πŸ”— phuzion Knoeki: Am I reading that correctly as 12,000 assorted 3.5" floppy disks for 1.50 Euro?
21:50 πŸ”— Knoeki well
21:50 πŸ”— Knoeki that's the current bid, it would seem
21:50 πŸ”— Knoeki still 9 days to go though, so.. who knows :|
21:50 πŸ”— CatButts hehe
21:51 πŸ”— CatButts I have a few packs of those lying around
21:51 πŸ”— Knoeki apparently it's pick up only.
21:51 πŸ”— Knoeki CatButts, i have a crate full here behind me that I need to get to the right people
21:51 πŸ”— Knoeki though I've gone through a bunch already and most of them are dead
21:52 πŸ”— CatButts I suppose it's worth taking a look through mine
21:52 πŸ”— Knoeki always is
21:52 πŸ”— Knoeki best to just rip 'em and zip them up either way
21:52 πŸ”— phuzion Even if we had someone who was willing and able to pick it up, I don't know whether the process of archiving 12K disks would be worth the man-hours, you know?
21:52 πŸ”— * Knoeki shrugs
21:52 πŸ”— Knoeki just throwing it out there
21:52 πŸ”— phuzion I'm absolutely not trying to discourage it
21:52 πŸ”— Knoeki I've already passed it around a bunch of other places :P
21:53 πŸ”— phuzion But without any kind of index of what data could possibly be on there, it's hard to say whether it's worth looking at or not, you know?
21:53 πŸ”— Knoeki just, basically the only archiving scene outside of this channel i'm familliar with are some people that are working on archiving c64 disks
21:53 πŸ”— CatButts I have a bunch of old gaming CDs I might want to archive
21:53 πŸ”— Knoeki phuzion, possibly demo/cracking scene material that isn't available online yet.
21:53 πŸ”— CatButts but I've always disconsidered it due to storage needed
21:53 πŸ”— phuzion CatButts: How many discs?
21:54 πŸ”— CatButts I have shitloads, but only interest in a few ones
21:54 πŸ”— Knoeki CatButts, there's some projects which do this stuff
21:54 πŸ”— CatButts then maybe I can be of use
21:54 πŸ”— Knoeki they might already have them archived
21:54 πŸ”— Knoeki but maybe not
21:54 πŸ”— Knoeki the name escapes me right now
21:55 πŸ”— Knoeki I still have some CD-i discs to rip but I don't quite have the right CD drive for it that could properly do it.
21:55 πŸ”— CatButts also, while I'm here, I wish to learn more about finding lost crud online
21:55 πŸ”— CatButts I think there's more to it than google and archive.org
21:56 πŸ”— CatButts though the answer depends highly on what you are looking for
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21:59 πŸ”— Darkstar well I have a KryoFlux and live "only" 4 hours from there. If nobody else is doing it I might take a shot at those 12k floppies :)
21:59 πŸ”— Darkstar but it's apparently mostly Amiga stuff and we all know how rare original disks were back then ;-)
22:00 πŸ”— Knoeki just 'cause they ain't "original" doesn't mean they can't contain (valuable) history (:
22:00 πŸ”— Darkstar true :)
22:01 πŸ”— Knoeki I need to continue ripping my c64 disks one of these days
22:02 πŸ”— Knoeki or.. rather... give them to someone that can do it
22:02 πŸ”— Knoeki only method I have takes like a minute per side.
22:02 πŸ”— Darkstar c64 ripping is difficult for me since I don't have a modified floppy drive
22:02 πŸ”— Darkstar 1min/side is pretty standard, not much to do against that. you want multiple revolutions per track just for the error correction and stuff
22:03 πŸ”— DFJustin originals can be mailed to the c64preservation.com guy
22:03 πŸ”— Darkstar ok so has anyone placed a bid there already? I don't want to artificially raise the price
22:04 πŸ”— Knoeki Darkstar: don't need a modified floppy drive
22:04 πŸ”— Knoeki warpcopy works really well too, but I don't have an RR-NET
22:04 πŸ”— Knoeki however that's what the transfer guys I know use, takes a couple seconds per side that way (15 or so?)
22:05 πŸ”— Darkstar yeah but I really want a lowlevel flux dump if possible, not decoded gcr data. especially since those disks are so old and rapidly deteriorating, chances are you get better data reconstruction from a flux dump
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22:06 πŸ”— Darkstar ok, bidding :)
22:06 πŸ”— Knoeki nooooo
22:06 πŸ”— Knoeki :(
22:06 πŸ”— Knoeki always wait until the last 20 seconds
22:06 πŸ”— Knoeki or so :D
22:07 πŸ”— Knoeki no point in bidding early most of the time
22:09 πŸ”— Darkstar just a small bid to keep me updated . from my experience, old floppies don't go up that much in price, I already got many that way
22:10 πŸ”— Knoeki I suppose (:
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22:21 πŸ”— Knoeki Darkstar: anyway.. good luck. (: hope you get it
22:21 πŸ”— * Knoeki continues scouring ebay for even older junk.
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