#archiveteam 2015-12-21,Mon

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00:07 🔗 arkiver Yes, please check the filename!!!!
00:07 🔗 arkiver Very very important
00:07 🔗 arkiver Scripts are automatically synced, so a wrong filename will cuase the whole grab to crash
00:07 🔗 arkiver If you are not sure, make a pull request
00:08 🔗 HCross Thats what just happened
00:10 🔗 arkiver Start: I see you added some new websites, thanks!
00:10 🔗 arkiver Little thing, if the rss contains all the news you don't have to add the frontpage of a website too
00:11 🔗 Start ok
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00:18 🔗 arkiver Everything grabbed by the NewsGrabber will go into newssites packs
00:18 🔗 arkiver https://archive.org/search.php?query=newssites%20AND%20collection%3Aopensource&sort=-publicdate
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00:27 🔗 arkiver Atluxity: merged!
00:27 🔗 arkiver Are you also going to create file for the feeds you removed with a longer refreshtime?
00:39 🔗 arkiver joepie91: theintercept is added, thanks!
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02:23 🔗 Start more sites have been added to newsgrabber!
02:27 🔗 GLaDOS should we make a new channel for newsgrabber?
02:34 🔗 GLaDOS Start: would it be safe to run newsgrabber in it's current state?
02:39 🔗 Start newsgrabber is already running at http://newsgrabber.harrycross.me:29000
02:40 🔗 Start and we should probably move newsgrabber discussion to #newsgrabber
02:44 🔗 GLaDOS alright, sweet
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03:51 🔗 Start chfoo-: could you get logchfoo to start logging #newsgrabber?
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10:25 🔗 SketchCo1 I would love to know if anyone grabbed the telethon stream.
10:25 🔗 SketchCo1 Youtube only keeps the last 12 hours.
10:25 🔗 SketchCo1 hit me up
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10:39 🔗 PurpleSym Wait, you did not record yourself, SketchCo1 ?
10:39 🔗 Atluxity arkiver: nah, those are such specialists feeds...
10:43 🔗 bai that sucks, they really only save the last 12 hours?
10:43 🔗 bai how silly
10:46 🔗 SketchCo1 it is not aboit complaining. it's about seeing what peiple might hace.
10:46 🔗 arkiver godane might have it
10:46 🔗 arkiver SketchCo1: we started a NewsGrabber
10:46 🔗 arkiver #newsgrabber
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10:47 🔗 arkiver We're going to get every new article from every news website saved!
10:47 🔗 HCross ^ We just need a list of all the newssites in the world!
10:47 🔗 godane SketchCow: i didn't capture it
10:48 🔗 godane i only grab the first 3 hours+
10:49 🔗 godane btw 12 hours is alot better then i fear it would be
10:49 🔗 Sketchcow yeah. we had some special stuff in the missing foitage.
10:49 🔗 Sketchcow but lits of stuff in the stuff we have too
10:50 🔗 Sketchcow We are going to reach ibside google
10:50 🔗 Sketchcow see if we can pull a favor
10:50 🔗 godane grab the last 12 hours first
10:51 🔗 Sketchcow will
10:51 🔗 Sketchcow has to finish pricessing
10:51 🔗 godane where the link to the last 12 hours anyways
10:53 🔗 godane SketchCow: anyways i found medium.com sitemaps again
10:54 🔗 godane so i'm grabbing the 3 months back log
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12:43 🔗 mutoso Sketchcow: Just saw your tweet. I grabbed the stream and I'm actually in the middle of uploading it to the Archive.
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12:44 🔗 mutoso and I do have Saturday 4pm-12am
12:45 🔗 asdf you have the whole stream then?
12:45 🔗 asdf 100%?
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13:14 🔗 mutoso I believe so
13:14 🔗 godane https://archive.org/details/iatelethon
13:14 🔗 godane found it
13:15 🔗 mutoso Yep, that's it. I'm trying to add videos one at a time, but the page has been on this for the past half hour or so. https://i.imgur.com/kGQIBLp.png
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14:05 🔗 mutoso asdf: Just ran a script over my recordings to see what times they cover
14:05 🔗 mutoso 2015-12-19T11:56:01-0800 to 2015-12-19T11:56:51-0800
14:05 🔗 mutoso 2015-12-19T11:56:55-0800 to 2015-12-19T11:57:02-0800
14:05 🔗 mutoso 2015-12-19T11:57:00-0800 to 2015-12-19T12:45:52-0800
14:05 🔗 mutoso 2015-12-19T12:49:04-0800 to 2015-12-19T14:15:27-0800
14:05 🔗 mutoso 2015-12-19T14:17:16-0800 to 2015-12-19T14:17:23-0800
14:05 🔗 mutoso 2015-12-19T14:18:19-0800 to 2015-12-19T14:18:26-0800
14:05 🔗 mutoso 2015-12-19T14:19:22-0800 to 2015-12-19T14:19:29-0800
14:05 🔗 mutoso 2015-12-19T14:20:25-0800 to 2015-12-19T14:20:32-0800
14:05 🔗 mutoso 2015-12-19T14:21:27-0800 to 2015-12-19T14:21:34-0800
14:05 🔗 mutoso 2015-12-19T14:22:30-0800 to 2015-12-19T14:22:37-0800
14:05 🔗 mutoso 2015-12-19T15:38:46-0800 to 2015-12-19T21:38:47-0800
14:05 🔗 mutoso 2015-12-19T21:40:02-0800 to 2015-12-20T03:39:25-0800
14:05 🔗 mutoso 2015-12-20T03:41:21-0800 to 2015-12-20T09:41:22-0800
14:05 🔗 mutoso 2015-12-20T09:42:34-0800 to 2015-12-20T12:13:23-0800
14:05 🔗 mutoso Looks like there's only a couple minute long gaps when the connection dropped for a bit
14:07 🔗 mutoso Never mind. There's an hour gap around 2PM on the 19th. Is that when the stream went down on your end, Sketchcow?
14:08 🔗 godane i think it was around that time
14:09 🔗 godane the first 3 and half hours are saved
14:10 🔗 godane so if it dropped then we still have it
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14:53 🔗 joepie91 a book in NL has been banned
14:53 🔗 joepie91 http://nos.nl/artikel/2076565-srebrenica-boek-de-doofpotgeneraal-alsnog-verboden.html
14:53 🔗 joepie91 cc arkiver
14:53 🔗 joepie91 it may be worth trying to obtain a copy of this somewhere, before it slips into unavailability too much
14:54 🔗 joepie91 first two chapters are at http://speakeasy.nl/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/DDG-hoofdstuk-1-en-2.pdf anyway
14:56 🔗 HCross Everyone say hello to NewsBuddy, our new news archive bot in #newsgrabberbot (well all it does is say what the bot is saving)
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15:03 🔗 FAMAS greetings all
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15:16 🔗 DFJustin yeah it was down for around an hour so that sounds complete
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15:19 🔗 DFJustin looks like the item is just taking a while to encode the video (derive.php) https://archive.org/history/iatelethon - should finish at some point
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15:30 🔗 phuzion HCross: Is it cool to just start throwing PRs at NewsBuddy? I've got a few sites I'd like to see archived.
15:31 🔗 HCross its not meant to do one site once, its designed to go back over the sites
15:31 🔗 phuzion Right, these are news sources that put out multiple news articles per day.
15:31 🔗 HCross Throw it in!
15:32 🔗 phuzion Cool, I'll get started.
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15:40 🔗 DFJustin looks like this guy recorded the telethon as well https://archive.org/details/@samizdat
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15:43 🔗 phuzion HCross: PR created. Let me know if I did things right.
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15:43 🔗 godane this guy is uploading tons of cd images: https://archive.org/details/@denzquix
15:44 🔗 phuzion gotta grab this one for sure https://archive.org/details/mastering-internet-development-with-activex
15:50 🔗 HCross ActiveX - please end me
15:51 🔗 godane SketchCow: these should be move to the computer shopping collection: https://archive.org/search.php?query=computer%20shopper%20collection%3Amagazine_rack
15:51 🔗 FAMAS what is required for this user to gain the ability to issue commands to archivebot?
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16:05 🔗 joepie91 godane: SimTunes!
16:06 🔗 joepie91 some good stuff there
16:07 🔗 godane i know
16:07 🔗 godane i found a random computer shopper uk cd from july 1998
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16:07 🔗 godane thats how i found this guy
16:09 🔗 godane looks stuff uploading a month ago is in cdrom collection
16:09 🔗 godane so it will get there at some point
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16:21 🔗 Sketchcow samizdat got 8pm onward
16:25 🔗 Sketchcow looking fir 4pm to 8pm
16:27 🔗 DFJustin ah looks like mutoso's upload will have that once the item processes some more
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16:49 🔗 phuzion HCross: Any chance you can take a look at that PR I sent? I've got a few others I'd like to write, and want to make sure I'm doing things at least somewhat right
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16:53 🔗 arkiver phuzion: commented
16:54 🔗 phuzion arkiver: would adding just that rss URL work, or should I add each individual RSS link on that page?
16:55 🔗 FAMAS how to obtain a copy of a completed site archive for personal use in archive formats?
16:55 🔗 arkiver phuzion: it looks like http://blog.cleveland.com/realtimenews/atom.xml would cover all articles
16:55 🔗 arkiver so that only should be enough
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16:57 🔗 arkiver Though maybe note local news, you might need to add more rss feeds for that too
16:57 🔗 phuzion Is the bot smart enough to not grab the same article twice if it shows up in the same RSS feed twice?
16:57 🔗 arkiver Yes
16:57 🔗 phuzion I mean, if it shows up in two different RSS feeds
16:58 🔗 phuzion So, it might just be smartest to throw all the RSS feeds in there then?
16:58 🔗 arkiver No, because that would mean all URLs of those RSS feeds will be grabbed over and over again
16:59 🔗 phuzion Oh, ok. I'll start with the realtimenews url for now
16:59 🔗 arkiver ok, let's do that
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17:00 🔗 arkiver phuzion: but if you need to add all RSS feeds to grab all articles, then please do that
17:01 🔗 arkiver If one or two of the RSS feeds update frequently and the others don't you can add two python files
17:01 🔗 arkiver with two different refresh times, one file for the short refresh time and one for the longer refresh time
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19:45 🔗 DFJustin Sketchcow: first 12 hours are up now at https://archive.org/details/iatelethon
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21:19 🔗 joepie91 arkiver: Sketchcow: somebody I know has a copy of that banned book, but no reasonable means to scan it (they have a camera, but no budget for a glass plate, etc.) -- any suggestions on how to resolve this? ebook versions are apparently poof
21:20 🔗 joepie91 (this is in NL, btw)
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21:44 🔗 Sketchcow mutoso: Thank you very much.
21:44 🔗 Sketchcow Why is the book banned.
21:45 🔗 Sketchcow Let's.... idly ask that.
21:51 🔗 joepie91 Sketchcow: ex-employee of MIVD (called MID back then, basically the military arm of the Dutch GCHQ) sued over "defamation"
21:52 🔗 joepie91 it's all a very sketchy story
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21:56 🔗 JW_work it's also been going on since August (although apparently a new ruling came out recently): https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=thrillerlezers.blogspot.com%2F2015%2F08%2Fde-doofpotgeneraal-uit-de-handel.html&edit-text=&act=url
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22:02 🔗 nickname what is the progress on notepad.cc
22:02 🔗 nickname ?
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22:07 🔗 nickname ul
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22:24 🔗 mutoso Sketchcow: No problem. Glad to help.
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22:44 🔗 JW_work http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/3086 . Sorry.
22:49 🔗 JW_work Somebody was talking about archiving muds — relevant link: http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/3039
22:50 🔗 JW_work (fine, fine, I'll stop trawling through Jason's blog now.)
22:53 🔗 Vito` joepie91: you could check the diybookscanner.org forums to see if there's someone in the Netherlands with one they could send it to
22:53 🔗 joepie91 Vito`: I suspect they'd be wary of sending it to random people
22:54 🔗 joepie91 (the person who reported about it and has a copy, happens to be somebody who somewhat knows me)
22:57 🔗 Vito` if they're looking to just preserve the raw content, handheld photos of the pages can be enough to run through something like Scan Tailor or Book Scan Wizard to clean up and process with OCR
22:58 🔗 JW_work http://www.worldcat.org/title/doofpotgeneraal-overheidsspionage-op-de-bedrijfsvloer/oclc/898360755 says it is ~200 pages
22:59 🔗 joepie91 Vito`: right. I'd prefer a proper scan (whether using a camera or otherwise), hence the question :P presently trying to negotiate a glass sheet
22:59 🔗 joepie91 I have a camera that would be suitable for DIY book scanning
22:59 🔗 joepie91 just no cover plate
22:59 🔗 Vito` the easiest cheapest DIY book scanner is just a cardboard box and an acrylic picture frame you can get at any shop
23:00 🔗 Vito` the acrylic will slowly get scratched but it'll be fine for a few hundred pages
23:00 🔗 Vito` let me find an example
23:00 🔗 joepie91 Vito`: "any shop" is not a very wide collection of shops here, certainly not for a reasonable price, and my budget is currently 0
23:00 🔗 joepie91 :P
23:01 🔗 Vito` if you have framed photos you already have one
23:03 🔗 Vito` http://www.diybookscanner.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2436&p=12787&hilit=cardboard#p12781
23:03 🔗 joepie91 I don't
23:03 🔗 Vito` they have a wood frame but you can use more cardboard
23:04 🔗 joepie91 moment...
23:04 🔗 joepie91 Vito`: "21cm" refers to what?
23:04 🔗 joepie91 on worldcat
23:05 🔗 Vito` probably the diagonal
23:07 🔗 joepie91 Vito`: I could maybe obtain something like this http://www.action.nl/decoratie/fotolijsten-muurdecoratie/fotocollagelijst-hout-42x42x3cm-wit-natural-zwart
23:08 🔗 joepie91 this is cheaper
23:08 🔗 joepie91 http://www.action.nl/decoratie/fotolijsten-muurdecoratie/fotolijst-wit-zilver-kunststof-21x29-7cm
23:08 🔗 joepie91 idk whether it'll be enough
23:08 🔗 joepie91 or how easy it'll be to remove the non-glass parts
23:10 🔗 Vito` there's a chance the latter one won't be big enough, since you don't know the dimensions, but either one will probably suffice. they're probably acrylic, not glass, but they'll get you through a whole book as long as you're careful about scratches
23:11 🔗 Vito` but yes, that, and a couple cardboard boxes, are generally all you need
23:11 🔗 Vito` and a black magic marker I guess, and overhead light
23:12 🔗 joepie91 (photo frames are usually glass here)
23:12 🔗 joepie91 will have a go at a setup tomorrow
23:12 🔗 joepie91 thanks
23:13 🔗 Vito` good luck
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23:21 🔗 Sketchcow OK, my mind is starting to clear up
23:23 🔗 HCross Recovered from the Telethon?
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