#archiveteam 2016-03-11,Fri

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JW_workhttp://0bin.net/paste/1mosiMfooR7ss0UQ#eC3YFyfTSX8wcn9VRmF4CiCKlv-CJ9jLTg4Cs8+FHdI — copy of https://web.archive.org/web/20120111055334/http://wrttn.in/04af1a in case wrttn.in's robots.txt changes in the future [00:24]
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dashcloudjohtso: it looks like the best way (if you don't have a GUI wherever you're doing the ripping) is to use cdrdao msinfo [00:42]
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dashcloudmaybe not msinfo, but cdrdao is probably your best bet [00:43]
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joepie91[22:10] <johtso> Does anyone know of a good way to make sure a CD I'm archiving can be faithfully copied with dd as an ISO or whether I need to copy it as a BIN+CUE?
[22:11] <johtso> xmc: is there a simple way to see what tracks a cd-rom has?
which OS?
if Linux, see https://github.com/joepie91/image-disc
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joepie91(uses udevadm) [01:53]
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joepie91(and will automatically pick the right tool for the job) [01:53]
DFJustinon windows, imgburn will automatically pick the right format but the current versions have adware I think [01:54]
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Fletchersorry arkiver, I was asleep :P [02:16]
Sk1dulrteam tracker needs maintance [02:17]
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Sk1dis there a website to see the current load on FOS? [02:22]
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ErkDogwell fotolog was pointed at zino__ this afternoon so it's less than it was
but still a lot /slash/ things going on with it
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JesseWSk1d: looking
Sk1d: should be working again, thanks for reporting it
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SketchCowWELL I HAVE BEEN AROUND [03:32]
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AsparagirWe don't judge. [03:36]
SketchCowI've had one window where I do nothing but upload MS-DOS programs into the collection to be tested and emulated.
It does an enormous amount of work for me, but it STILL needs me to go look at it frequently.
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OK, it's up. Making a screenshot of it because it's trivial to do. [03:54]
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wilsoncd3Maybe someone can give me some tips? I have a somewhat large collection of software for early Mac. I'm in the process of ripping it for obvious reasons, bit rot etc. I find a lot of info about how I should backup/rip all of this data but...
I don't find a lot of information on what to do with the data/software that is potentially copyrighted. I suspect most is abandoned. But, much of it is not. Early Apple, Microsoft, Adobe. If I drop all of this on archive.org, they may not make it publically available but is it usually kept?
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xmcarchive.org doesn't delete things [08:34]
wilsoncd3OK. I'd rather not dump it on some sketchy site. Even if they won't, or can't, make it publically available I'd love to see it kept somewhere. [08:35]
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xmcit'll stick around
it'll probably stay public for a while
i mean, most people who wrote software decades ago don't scour the internet for it to find and shut down every day
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johtsojoepie91: oh wow, that looks perfect! I was going to try and come up with a script like that myself.. [08:54]
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johtsojoepie91: why do you use bin+cue for data cd-roms rather than ddrescue? [08:59]
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johtsojoepie91: is it just safer as with dd you might end up missing some blocks depending on how the CD was authored? [09:30]
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joepie91johtso: it only does that for multi-track
hum
ok, maybe not
well then I don't kno
know*
lol
johtso: oh! I think it had something to do with some copy protections
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johtsoah okay [11:46]
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SketchCowhttps://my.virginmedia.com/customer-news/articles/webspace-is-closing.html
VIRGIN MEDIA WEBSPACE
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MrRadarWe should probably do a projec tto identify all ISP webspaces that are still left and grab them [18:51]
HCrossSCUMBAGS
HCross holds my hand up. I am a Virgin customer, and have webspace
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SketchCowIf we can compose a way to grab it it's do it. [18:52]
HCross"Weve teamed up with GoDaddy" - makes it perfect [18:53]
ErkDog150GB bandwidth (so if your site goes viral, it'll stay online)
loooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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HCrossAs iff [18:54]
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arkiverLet's get them [18:56]
HCrossLets get the Beardy little git
they have a number of domains
Virgin Media: http://www.USERNAME.webspace.virginmedia.com/
Blueyonder: http://www.USERNAME.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
Virgin.net: http://freespace.virgin.net/USERNAME/
NTL: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/USERNAME/
#virginnospace ?
http://www.lbaweb.webspace.virginmedia.com site example
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DFJustindefloweredmedia? [18:59]
arkiverdefloweredmedia is definitely nice [18:59]
VADemondeflavouredmedia [19:00]
HCrosshttp://www.bagejohn.webspace.virginmedia.com some are still updated
then you get some like http://christmastreefestival.webspace.virginmedia.com/christmastreefestival/
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Frogginghttp://members.shaw.ca/
oh sorry, I thought we were talking about all webspaces
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HCrossnope, just scumbag media webspace [19:03]
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HCrossBEARDY, WERE COMING FOR YOU! [19:11]
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SimpBrai1oh god
not virgin media person pages
personal
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HCrossYe [19:19]
SimpBrai1done a bit of background research, via the wiki page
needs a search engine scrape
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wvdpwith wget how can i get external page resources on an external domain without downloading a buntch of other sites. [19:22]
xmc--page-requisites i think is the name of the argument you're looking for
archiveteam: wget users' support group
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MrRadarwvdp: I don't know about wget, but wpull (a rewrite in Python which is most command-line-compatible) you can use --span-hosts-allow page-requisites to restrict host spanning to only external resources referenced on scraped HTML pages [19:25]
wvdpdoes wpull also suport warc files? [19:25]
MrRadarYes [19:25]
schbiridHCross: there is a page in the wiki
www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=ISP_Hosting
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HCrossyeah [19:27]
PurpleSymBing search results: https://0bin.net/paste/Jn5Qc6EFCaFmFa8f#q5QFy6k876BpXzhf2IrCnhd9X9MQeQ1KQzwelb-VSxc [19:40]
HCrossDid you do all the domains?> [19:41]
PurpleSymComing up.
Alright, all of them: https://0bin.net/paste/bPBQX33hjR8IRtCP#r5SbdlHFMBQ+5NV-0rzbBByR33UU1M/b+TZzmFv1I9e
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PurpleSym(Note: Bing API seems to be limited to 1000 results) [19:44]
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SketchCowIn multiple other cases, we've done a "dictionary scrape". We use every word in the dictionary, scrape the output of both search engines, and then start concocting a URL collection. [19:49]
godaneSketchCow: 1945 and 1946 of NASA Technical Reports Server are uploaded
also i'm up to 2011 of Spinning On Air
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SketchCowI've been racking my brain on the name for the virgin project that is not going to have a really poor, really indefensible, punching-down riff off the word "virgin" [20:00]
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SimpBrai1almostpurehosting? [20:01]
SketchCowI'm flipping between #beardedgit and ...
OK, got it.
#virginsacrifice
Move it to there, if you could
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PurpleSymSketchCow: API is limited to 5000 requests/month. [20:05]
SketchCowThat's why we don't tend to use the API
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JW_workI'll do a urlteam search this evening. [21:42]
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