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[01:51] [22:11] xmc: is there a simple way to see what tracks a cd-rom has? [01:51] which OS? [01:52] if Linux, see https://github.com/joepie91/image-disc [01:52] *** beardicus has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:52] *** thefinn93 has joined #archiveteam [01:53] (uses udevadm) [01:53] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [01:53] (and will automatically pick the right tool for the job) [01:54] on windows, imgburn will automatically pick the right format but the current versions have adware I think [01:54] *** vegbrasil has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:56] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam [02:02] *** Mayonaise has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 864 seconds) [02:08] *** Stiletto has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [02:08] *** Start has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [02:08] *** Start has joined #archiveteam [02:14] *** closure has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [02:16] *** closure has joined #archiveteam [02:16] sorry arkiver, I was asleep :P [02:17] ulrteam tracker needs maintance [02:18] *** vegbrasil has joined #archiveteam [02:20] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [02:21] *** Mayonaise has joined #archiveteam [02:22] is there a website to see the current load on FOS? [02:23] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [02:26] *** rossdylan has joined #archiveteam [02:27] well fotolog was pointed at zino__ this afternoon so it's less than it was [02:27] but still a lot /slash/ things going on with it [02:33] Sk1d: looking [02:37] Sk1d: should be working again, thanks for reporting it [02:37] *** beardicus has joined #archiveteam [02:42] *** chfoo0 has joined #archiveteam [02:44] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [02:45] *** chfoo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [02:47] *** chfoo0 is now known as chfoo [02:51] *** trs80 has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.umich.edu) [03:13] *** Stiletto has joined #archiveteam [03:18] *** Jonimus has joined #archiveteam [03:18] *** swebb sets mode: +o Jonimus [03:19] *** aMunster has joined #archiveteam [03:19] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [03:28] *** mhazinsk has joined #archiveteam [03:32] WELL I HAVE BEEN AROUND [03:36] *** nwf has joined #archiveteam [03:36] We don't judge. [03:38] I've had one window where I do nothing but upload MS-DOS programs into the collection to be tested and emulated. [03:38] It does an enormous amount of work for me, but it STILL needs me to go look at it frequently. [03:54] OK, it's up. Making a screenshot of it because it's trivial to do. 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I have a somewhat large collection of software for early Mac. I'm in the process of ripping it for obvious reasons, bit rot etc. I find a lot of info about how I should backup/rip all of this data but... [08:34] I don't find a lot of information on what to do with the data/software that is potentially copyrighted. I suspect most is abandoned. But, much of it is not. Early Apple, Microsoft, Adobe. If I drop all of this on archive.org, they may not make it publically available but is it usually kept? [08:34] archive.org doesn't delete things [08:35] OK. I'd rather not dump it on some sketchy site. Even if they won't, or can't, make it publically available I'd love to see it kept somewhere. [08:38] *** mhazinsk has joined #archiveteam [08:41] it'll stick around [08:41] it'll probably stay public for a while [08:42] i mean, most people who wrote software decades ago don't scour the internet for it to find and shut down every day [08:49] *** nwf has joined #archiveteam [08:50] *** atomotic has joined #archiveteam [08:51] *** mismatch_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [08:52] *** mismatch_ has joined #archiveteam [08:54] joepie91: oh wow, that looks perfect! I was going to try and come up with a script like that myself.. [08:56] *** chazchaz_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [08:59] joepie91: why do you use bin+cue for data cd-roms rather than ddrescue? [09:00] *** chazchaz has joined #archiveteam [09:28] *** fpoee has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [09:28] *** plog99 has joined #archiveteam [09:30] joepie91: is it just safer as with dd you might end up missing some blocks depending on how the CD was authored? 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[17:10] *** closure has joined #archiveteam [17:16] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [17:18] *** Stiletto has quit IRC (Excess Flood) [17:20] *** Stiletto has joined #archiveteam [17:34] *** ete_ has joined #archiveteam [17:36] *** nwf has joined #archiveteam [17:46] *** ete has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [17:49] *** pgoetz has joined #archiveteam [17:58] *** Zei-Pii has joined #archiveteam [17:58] *** Zei-Pii has quit IRC (Connection closed) [17:58] *** Zei-Pii has joined #archiveteam [18:10] *** RichardG_ is now known as RichardG [18:35] *** tomwsmf-a has joined #archiveteam [18:39] *** ete has joined #archiveteam [18:42] *** ete_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:50] https://my.virginmedia.com/customer-news/articles/webspace-is-closing.html [18:50] VIRGIN MEDIA WEBSPACE [18:51] We should probably do a projec tto identify all ISP webspaces that are still left and grab them [18:52] SCUMBAGS [18:52] * HCross holds my hand up. I am a Virgin customer, and have webspace [18:52] If we can compose a way to grab it it's do it. [18:53] "Weve teamed up with GoDaddy" - makes it perfect [18:54] 150GB bandwidth (so if your site goes viral, it'll stay online) [18:54] loooooooooooooooooooooooooool [18:54] As iff [18:54] *** roninski has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [18:56] Let's get them [18:56] Lets get the Beardy little git [18:57] they have a number of domains [18:57] Virgin Media: http://www.USERNAME.webspace.virginmedia.com/ [18:57] Blueyonder: http://www.USERNAME.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ [18:57] Virgin.net: http://freespace.virgin.net/USERNAME/ [18:57] NTL: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/USERNAME/ [18:58] #virginnospace ? [18:58] http://www.lbaweb.webspace.virginmedia.com site example [18:59] defloweredmedia? [18:59] defloweredmedia is definitely nice [19:00] deflavouredmedia [19:00] http://www.bagejohn.webspace.virginmedia.com some are still updated [19:02] then you get some like http://christmastreefestival.webspace.virginmedia.com/christmastreefestival/ [19:02] http://members.shaw.ca/ [19:03] oh sorry, I thought we were talking about all webspaces [19:03] nope, just scumbag media webspace [19:03] *** Lord_Nigh has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:08] *** Lord_Nigh has joined #archiveteam [19:11] BEARDY, WERE COMING FOR YOU! [19:17] *** bwn has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:18] oh god [19:19] not virgin media person pages [19:19] personal [19:19] Ye [19:19] done a bit of background research, via the wiki page [19:19] needs a search engine scrape [19:20] *** Start has joined #archiveteam [19:20] *** wvdp has joined #archiveteam [19:22] with wget how can i get external page resources on an external domain without downloading a buntch of other sites. [19:23] --page-requisites i think is the name of the argument you're looking for [19:23] archiveteam: wget users' support group [19:25] wvdp: I don't know about wget, but wpull (a rewrite in Python which is most command-line-compatible) you can use --span-hosts-allow page-requisites to restrict host spanning to only external resources referenced on scraped HTML pages [19:25] does wpull also suport warc files? [19:25] Yes [19:26] HCross: there is a page in the wiki [19:26] www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=ISP_Hosting [19:27] yeah [19:40] Bing search results: https://0bin.net/paste/Jn5Qc6EFCaFmFa8f#q5QFy6k876BpXzhf2IrCnhd9X9MQeQ1KQzwelb-VSxc [19:41] Did you do all the domains?> [19:42] Coming up. [19:43] Alright, all of them: https://0bin.net/paste/bPBQX33hjR8IRtCP#r5SbdlHFMBQ+5NV-0rzbBByR33UU1M/b+TZzmFv1I9e [19:44] *** ete has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 633 seconds) [19:44] (Note: Bing API seems to be limited to 1000 results) [19:45] *** bwn has joined #archiveteam [19:49] In multiple other cases, we've done a "dictionary scrape". We use every word in the dictionary, scrape the output of both search engines, and then start concocting a URL collection. [19:50] SketchCow: 1945 and 1946 of NASA Technical Reports Server are uploaded [19:50] also i'm up to 2011 of Spinning On Air [20:00] I've been racking my brain on the name for the virgin project that is not going to have a really poor, really indefensible, punching-down riff off the word "virgin" [20:01] *** tomwsmf-a has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [20:01] almostpurehosting? [20:03] I'm flipping between #beardedgit and ... [20:03] OK, got it. [20:03] #virginsacrifice [20:04] Move it to there, if you could [20:05] SketchCow: API is limited to 5000 requests/month. [20:07] That's why we don't tend to use the API [20:07] ZING [20:45] *** Start has quit IRC (Quit: Disconnected.) [20:51] *** tomwsmf-a has joined #archiveteam [21:04] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [21:09] *** plog99 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:12] *** ete has joined #archiveteam [21:22] *** bithippo has joined #archiveteam [21:30] *** jut has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:34] *** Lord_Nigh has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:42] *** bithippo has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [21:42] I'll do a urlteam search this evening. 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