#archiveteam 2016-03-11,Fri

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00:24 🔗 JW_work http://0bin.net/paste/1mosiMfooR7ss0UQ#eC3YFyfTSX8wcn9VRmF4CiCKlv-CJ9jLTg4Cs8+FHdI — copy of https://web.archive.org/web/20120111055334/http://wrttn.in/04af1a in case wrttn.in's robots.txt changes in the future
00:42 🔗 dashcloud johtso: it looks like the best way (if you don't have a GUI wherever you're doing the ripping) is to use cdrdao msinfo
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00:43 🔗 dashcloud maybe not msinfo, but cdrdao is probably your best bet
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01:51 🔗 joepie91 [22:10] <johtso> Does anyone know of a good way to make sure a CD I'm archiving can be faithfully copied with dd as an ISO or whether I need to copy it as a BIN+CUE?
01:51 🔗 joepie91 [22:11] <johtso> xmc: is there a simple way to see what tracks a cd-rom has?
01:51 🔗 joepie91 which OS?
01:52 🔗 joepie91 if Linux, see https://github.com/joepie91/image-disc
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01:53 🔗 joepie91 (uses udevadm)
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01:53 🔗 joepie91 (and will automatically pick the right tool for the job)
01:54 🔗 DFJustin on windows, imgburn will automatically pick the right format but the current versions have adware I think
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02:16 🔗 Fletcher sorry arkiver, I was asleep :P
02:17 🔗 Sk1d ulrteam tracker needs maintance
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02:22 🔗 Sk1d is there a website to see the current load on FOS?
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02:27 🔗 ErkDog well fotolog was pointed at zino__ this afternoon so it's less than it was
02:27 🔗 ErkDog but still a lot /slash/ things going on with it
02:33 🔗 JesseW Sk1d: looking
02:37 🔗 JesseW Sk1d: should be working again, thanks for reporting it
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03:32 🔗 SketchCow WELL I HAVE BEEN AROUND
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03:36 🔗 Asparagir We don't judge.
03:38 🔗 SketchCow I've had one window where I do nothing but upload MS-DOS programs into the collection to be tested and emulated.
03:38 🔗 SketchCow It does an enormous amount of work for me, but it STILL needs me to go look at it frequently.
03:54 🔗 SketchCow OK, it's up. Making a screenshot of it because it's trivial to do.
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08:32 🔗 wilsoncd3 Maybe someone can give me some tips? I have a somewhat large collection of software for early Mac. I'm in the process of ripping it for obvious reasons, bit rot etc. I find a lot of info about how I should backup/rip all of this data but...
08:34 🔗 wilsoncd3 I don't find a lot of information on what to do with the data/software that is potentially copyrighted. I suspect most is abandoned. But, much of it is not. Early Apple, Microsoft, Adobe. If I drop all of this on archive.org, they may not make it publically available but is it usually kept?
08:34 🔗 xmc archive.org doesn't delete things
08:35 🔗 wilsoncd3 OK. I'd rather not dump it on some sketchy site. Even if they won't, or can't, make it publically available I'd love to see it kept somewhere.
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08:41 🔗 xmc it'll stick around
08:41 🔗 xmc it'll probably stay public for a while
08:42 🔗 xmc i mean, most people who wrote software decades ago don't scour the internet for it to find and shut down every day
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08:54 🔗 johtso joepie91: oh wow, that looks perfect! I was going to try and come up with a script like that myself..
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08:59 🔗 johtso joepie91: why do you use bin+cue for data cd-roms rather than ddrescue?
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09:30 🔗 johtso joepie91: is it just safer as with dd you might end up missing some blocks depending on how the CD was authored?
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11:44 🔗 joepie91 johtso: it only does that for multi-track
11:45 🔗 joepie91 hum
11:45 🔗 joepie91 ok, maybe not
11:45 🔗 joepie91 well then I don't kno
11:45 🔗 joepie91 know*
11:45 🔗 joepie91 lol
11:45 🔗 joepie91 johtso: oh! I think it had something to do with some copy protections
11:46 🔗 johtso ah okay
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18:50 🔗 SketchCow https://my.virginmedia.com/customer-news/articles/webspace-is-closing.html
18:50 🔗 SketchCow VIRGIN MEDIA WEBSPACE
18:51 🔗 MrRadar We should probably do a projec tto identify all ISP webspaces that are still left and grab them
18:52 🔗 HCross SCUMBAGS
18:52 🔗 * HCross holds my hand up. I am a Virgin customer, and have webspace
18:52 🔗 SketchCow If we can compose a way to grab it it's do it.
18:53 🔗 HCross "Weve teamed up with GoDaddy" - makes it perfect
18:54 🔗 ErkDog 150GB bandwidth (so if your site goes viral, it'll stay online)
18:54 🔗 ErkDog loooooooooooooooooooooooooool
18:54 🔗 HCross As iff
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18:56 🔗 arkiver Let's get them
18:56 🔗 HCross Lets get the Beardy little git
18:57 🔗 HCross they have a number of domains
18:57 🔗 HCross Virgin Media: http://www.USERNAME.webspace.virginmedia.com/
18:57 🔗 HCross Blueyonder: http://www.USERNAME.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
18:57 🔗 HCross Virgin.net: http://freespace.virgin.net/USERNAME/
18:57 🔗 HCross NTL: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/USERNAME/
18:58 🔗 HCross #virginnospace ?
18:58 🔗 HCross http://www.lbaweb.webspace.virginmedia.com site example
18:59 🔗 DFJustin defloweredmedia?
18:59 🔗 arkiver defloweredmedia is definitely nice
19:00 🔗 VADemon deflavouredmedia
19:00 🔗 HCross http://www.bagejohn.webspace.virginmedia.com some are still updated
19:02 🔗 HCross then you get some like http://christmastreefestival.webspace.virginmedia.com/christmastreefestival/
19:02 🔗 Frogging http://members.shaw.ca/
19:03 🔗 Frogging oh sorry, I thought we were talking about all webspaces
19:03 🔗 HCross nope, just scumbag media webspace
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19:11 🔗 HCross BEARDY, WERE COMING FOR YOU!
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19:18 🔗 SimpBrai1 oh god
19:19 🔗 SimpBrai1 not virgin media person pages
19:19 🔗 SimpBrai1 personal
19:19 🔗 HCross Ye
19:19 🔗 SimpBrai1 done a bit of background research, via the wiki page
19:19 🔗 SimpBrai1 needs a search engine scrape
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19:22 🔗 wvdp with wget how can i get external page resources on an external domain without downloading a buntch of other sites.
19:23 🔗 xmc --page-requisites i think is the name of the argument you're looking for
19:23 🔗 xmc archiveteam: wget users' support group
19:25 🔗 MrRadar wvdp: I don't know about wget, but wpull (a rewrite in Python which is most command-line-compatible) you can use --span-hosts-allow page-requisites to restrict host spanning to only external resources referenced on scraped HTML pages
19:25 🔗 wvdp does wpull also suport warc files?
19:25 🔗 MrRadar Yes
19:26 🔗 schbirid HCross: there is a page in the wiki
19:26 🔗 schbirid www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=ISP_Hosting
19:27 🔗 HCross yeah
19:40 🔗 PurpleSym Bing search results: https://0bin.net/paste/Jn5Qc6EFCaFmFa8f#q5QFy6k876BpXzhf2IrCnhd9X9MQeQ1KQzwelb-VSxc
19:41 🔗 HCross Did you do all the domains?>
19:42 🔗 PurpleSym Coming up.
19:43 🔗 PurpleSym Alright, all of them: https://0bin.net/paste/bPBQX33hjR8IRtCP#r5SbdlHFMBQ+5NV-0rzbBByR33UU1M/b+TZzmFv1I9e
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19:44 🔗 PurpleSym (Note: Bing API seems to be limited to 1000 results)
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19:49 🔗 SketchCow In multiple other cases, we've done a "dictionary scrape". We use every word in the dictionary, scrape the output of both search engines, and then start concocting a URL collection.
19:50 🔗 godane SketchCow: 1945 and 1946 of NASA Technical Reports Server are uploaded
19:50 🔗 godane also i'm up to 2011 of Spinning On Air
20:00 🔗 SketchCow I've been racking my brain on the name for the virgin project that is not going to have a really poor, really indefensible, punching-down riff off the word "virgin"
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20:01 🔗 SimpBrai1 almostpurehosting?
20:03 🔗 SketchCow I'm flipping between #beardedgit and ...
20:03 🔗 SketchCow OK, got it.
20:03 🔗 SketchCow #virginsacrifice
20:04 🔗 SketchCow Move it to there, if you could
20:05 🔗 PurpleSym SketchCow: API is limited to 5000 requests/month.
20:07 🔗 SketchCow That's why we don't tend to use the API
20:07 🔗 SketchCow ZING
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21:42 🔗 JW_work I'll do a urlteam search this evening.
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