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11:59 🔗 Nick_ I was wondering. How did http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Coursera go?
12:01 🔗 Igloo We got a good chunk of the courses
12:01 🔗 Igloo (We completed our project). Some courses we couldn't sign up for iirc
12:03 🔗 Nick_ Were you able to use "NOTE: An earlier version of the guide claimed that unless you signed up before, you cannot download course materials for courses that are not open for enrollment. But I realized that you can download the course materials with the Python script. The guide has been updated to reflect that." http://makemeflow.org/advice/2016/06/how-to-download-courseras-courses-before-theyre-gone-forever/
12:20 🔗 Igloo I am not sure, I didn't write the scripts nore did I check the courses we downloaded
12:20 🔗 Igloo I just ran a couple of crawlers :)
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14:35 🔗 arkiver dnshistory project is started!
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17:15 🔗 ArgyroNet hello here
17:19 🔗 JesseW ArgyroNet: hi
17:19 🔗 ArgyroNet Hi JesseW
17:20 🔗 ArgyroNet aww I see your message; so you're not archive.org ?
17:20 🔗 ArgyroNet who are you, if I may ask ?
17:20 🔗 ArgyroNet I mean, I thought here was a place related to archive.org
17:21 🔗 Fletcher just a loose group of people that upload a bunch of things to archive.org
17:21 🔗 JesseW What he said. :-)
17:21 🔗 ArgyroNet oh, so this place -is- related to archive.org :
17:21 🔗 JesseW we upload stuff to other places, too
17:21 🔗 ArgyroNet That's perfect
17:21 🔗 JesseW although not as much
17:22 🔗 ArgyroNet that's even more perfect
17:22 🔗 JesseW so, what's your question/idea/angry rant :-P ?
17:22 🔗 ArgyroNet let's say, I have some photos I took, I'd like to find a nice place to upload them, a friend suggested me archive.org
17:22 🔗 ArgyroNet I didn't knew it offered such possibility
17:22 🔗 JesseW archive.org is very likely a good place to upload them, yes
17:22 🔗 ArgyroNet so I was seeking for some advices about it
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17:22 🔗 ArgyroNet a good place ?
17:22 🔗 ArgyroNet Why ?
17:23 🔗 ArgyroNet I mean, your view on that ?
17:25 🔗 JesseW because they are very likely to keep making them available for a long time; they don't charge uploaders (or even require anything beyond a working email address (which will be made (quietly) semi-public, though); they will automatically convert images into a variety of formats, but keep the originals
17:25 🔗 JesseW it's not particularly good for building a community of people to discuss/comment on your images, though
17:26 🔗 ArgyroNet that's not really my aim, tbh
17:26 🔗 JesseW but you could upload them *both* to archive.org and somewhere like flickr/facebook/instagram/snapchat to get the benfits of both
17:26 🔗 JesseW if you wanted the comunity aspects
17:26 🔗 ArgyroNet can one have its email private ?
17:27 🔗 ArgyroNet In fact I'd like a place where people searching free images may find mine :)
17:27 🔗 JesseW fully private? not currently -- but there are various people here who are likely to be willing to upload things on your behalf (in which case, it's *their* email that would be listed)
17:27 🔗 ArgyroNet okay okay
17:27 🔗 ArgyroNet that's good to know
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17:28 🔗 JesseW the searchability is ... not the best, but pretty good
17:29 🔗 JesseW the strongest reason to upload stuff to archive.org is their expressed intention to keep it around for a very long time (and their demonstrated (so far) success at doing so)
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17:30 🔗 ArgyroNet Okay !
17:30 🔗 DoomTay There is a fire risk
17:30 🔗 DoomTay No, seriously https://blog.archive.org/2013/11/06/scanning-center-fire-please-help-rebuild/
17:31 🔗 JesseW DoomTay: <phbbbt> True, but still <phbbbt>
17:31 🔗 JesseW and they didn't lose any of the digititized material in that
17:31 🔗 ArgyroNet Uhm :)
17:32 🔗 JesseW one relevant consideration is -- if you expect your material to be controversial, and likely to come to the angry attention of people with a credible claim to own it, archive.org is probably not the best place to put it (well, not the copy that you expect to come to the attention of the angry people)
17:32 🔗 ArgyroNet That won't be the case !
17:33 🔗 JesseW OK, then I think you should certainly upload them!
17:33 🔗 ArgyroNet Except, if, uh, the lake I took pictures of decided to come on the net and uh, claim to own the picture
17:33 🔗 ArgyroNet but uuh... :)
17:33 🔗 JesseW How many photos are you talking about? In an order of magnitude sense.
17:33 🔗 ArgyroNet Uuhmm... A thousand or two
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17:33 🔗 JesseW Oh, that's not that many at all. :-)
17:33 🔗 ArgyroNet no no
17:34 🔗 ArgyroNet hundred
17:34 🔗 ArgyroNet I mean't hundred
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17:34 🔗 JesseW either one isn't that many. :-)
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17:34 🔗 Fletcher that's a drop in the ocean :)
17:34 🔗 ArgyroNet Perfect
17:34 🔗 ArgyroNet May oceans last a long time !
17:35 🔗 JesseW btw, (I should have mentioned that earlier) -- we should probably take this to the #archiveteam-bs channel; this is more intended for quick status updates, rather than full discussions (as this turned into)
17:35 🔗 ArgyroNet okay, I'm coming in
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17:48 🔗 JesseW BTW, SoftwareHeritage has made their code (and bug tracker) visible: https://forge.softwareheritage.org
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18:09 🔗 joepie91 [19:33] <ArgyroNet> Except, if, uh, the lake I took pictures of decided to come on the net and uh, claim to own the picture
18:09 🔗 joepie91 you say that, but eiffel tower..
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18:14 🔗 ArgyroNet joepie91: are you talking about the "domaine public" french thing ? :/
18:14 🔗 ArgyroNet I was thinking about it, that's why I said "a lake" and not "a wall" hehe
18:14 🔗 joepie91 ArgyroNet: https://torrentfreak.com/night-time-eiffel-tower-photos-are-a-copyright-violation-141108/ :P
18:15 🔗 ArgyroNet yep, but now there's more with that
18:15 🔗 ArgyroNet do you speak french, joepie91 ?
18:16 🔗 joepie91 ArgyroNet: ah non
18:17 🔗 ArgyroNet I was going to send you an article ;)
18:17 🔗 ArgyroNet so there are some... specials french law projects
18:18 🔗 ArgyroNet a) public domain places are going to have their right on the image given to some private compagnies, to deal with them
18:18 🔗 ArgyroNet so no pictures allowed
18:18 🔗 ArgyroNet no pictures allowed for wikipedia, too
18:19 🔗 ArgyroNet b) searching engines will have to pay for showing the said images (LOL)
18:19 🔗 ArgyroNet if anyone feel interested/wants to google translate it: http://blog.wikimedia.fr/privatisation-du-domaine-public-avec-la-loi-creation-on-a-touche-le-fond-9234
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18:27 🔗 joepie91 ArgyroNet: :/
18:27 🔗 joepie91 also, let's move to -bs :P
18:27 🔗 joepie91 (also, while I don't speak French, I do -read- French)
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18:35 🔗 ArgyroNet has left Once you know what cake you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is
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19:11 🔗 Lukeycat WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
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19:11 🔗 PurpleSym yahoosucks
19:11 🔗 Lukeycat Thanks
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