#archiveteam 2016-08-22,Mon

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00:21 🔗 arkiver yahooanswers grab is started!!
00:21 🔗 arkiver 500000 items queued
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00:25 🔗 OpticalSw Oh no haha will fire up home server and remote machines
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00:36 🔗 * nicolas17 has updated http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Mapillary
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01:00 🔗 JesseW not sure why you asked me specifically about Mapillary earlier, but FWIW, I agree with all your changes
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01:21 🔗 nicolas17 JesseW: I wanted to ask *somebody* for feedback before making my first edit to the wiki, you were quoted in the page (and I removed the quote because it seemed outdated by now), and we talked about it elsewhere :P
01:24 🔗 JesseW ah, that makes sense :-)
01:25 🔗 JesseW yes, thank you for removing my name (and the quote) -- I didn't need to be explicitly mentioned
01:25 🔗 nicolas17 also, shame on me, I still didn't ask them about the "wikimedia commons export shouldn't have watermark" thing
01:27 🔗 JesseW well, now you are reminded :-)
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01:56 🔗 tomaspark I've uploaded pov-ray usenet archive to IA
02:08 🔗 JesseW tomaspark: nice -- feel free to add a link from somewhere relevant on the archiveteam wiki
02:08 🔗 nicolas17 neat :O
02:11 🔗 nicolas17 I wonder if the usual crowd still hangs out in povray.off-topic, I should peek in
02:12 🔗 * nicolas17 gets nostalgic
02:20 🔗 tomaspark i've posted the url on the usenet talk page
02:22 🔗 tomaspark I am currently downloading the mozilla/netscape usenet
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03:16 🔗 alembic orkut all done :3
03:16 🔗 nicolas17 :O
03:16 🔗 alembic http://tracker.archiveteam.org/orkut/
03:16 🔗 alembic 0 to do
03:17 🔗 alembic (unless that's a partial list?)
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03:22 🔗 nicolas17 while true; do curl 'https://a.mapillary.com/v2/stats/im?client_id=MkJKbDA0bnZuZlcxeTJHTmFqN3g1dzo1YTM0NjRkM2EyZGU5MzBh'; echo; sleep 60; done
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03:27 🔗 tomaspark I've just found a list of usenet servers @ http://www.nyx.net/~bkraft/
03:28 🔗 nicolas17 I have never used usenet
03:29 🔗 nicolas17 but the private NNTP servers I ever used were gmane, povray, and lugnet
03:29 🔗 * joepie91 whoop whoop off-topic siren
03:29 🔗 joepie91 best move to #archiveteam-bs :P
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04:06 🔗 JesseW nicolas17 -- that client_id is invalid
04:08 🔗 JesseW flightcar.com shut down in July -- might as well stick it on the Deathwatch list
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04:29 🔗 xmc ... but it's dead already
04:30 🔗 Frogging we can watch it be dead
04:30 🔗 Frogging (also http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Deathwatch#Dead_as_a_Doornail )
04:33 🔗 JesseW we can be a place for historians in 20 years to ask "what services died in July 2016" and get an answer
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09:59 🔗 SketchCow We also might be a series of embittered old men
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12:06 🔗 arkiver #noanswers for Yahoo! Asnwers!
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12:13 🔗 arkiver Problem with yahooanswers not running on the warrior is fixed.
12:16 🔗 wp494 reposting from -bs on YA:
12:16 🔗 wp494 <Igloo^> For those looking at yahoo answers, Keep your concurrency low otherwise you get banned and get a 500 (printed in browser as error 999)
12:17 🔗 arkiver thanks
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13:21 🔗 Nemo_bis Need to find the dependencies for fedora 23... http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:Wget_with_Lua_hooks
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13:49 🔗 powerKitt So, Gawker.com is going to be closing its doors on the 25th. According to their shutdown announcement, they don't have a finalized plan for the site's archives. It's likely possible to just grab it with wget. Notably, two of the site's articles are hidden from robots.txt
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14:07 🔗 Igloo^ We need to have a bot which responds to any mention of gawker with "It's done"
14:09 🔗 Medowar we have the title...
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14:49 🔗 Frogging tfw nobody reads topics
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15:27 🔗 xmc TWO of the site's articles are hidden you guys
15:27 🔗 xmc you guys you guys
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15:49 🔗 JesseW Yahoo Answers still doesn't work with the warriror, at least for me.
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17:16 🔗 ErkDog If you google the string of text princeton-alums-state-dept-staffer-compete-in-revolting-sex-contest like dozens of websites have that in their robots. txt for some reason
17:20 🔗 Kaz most/all gawker sites
17:35 🔗 DFJustin heh somebody from the article must have lawyered up
17:36 🔗 ErkDog it's still on Jezebel
17:36 🔗 ErkDog http://jezebel.com/5723470/princeton-alums-state-dept-staffer-compete-in-revolting-sex-contest
17:36 🔗 ErkDog can someone throw that into ArchiveBot?
17:38 🔗 xmc why don't you go to #archivebot and !ao it yourself
17:38 🔗 ErkDog because I can't
17:38 🔗 xmc why not?
17:38 🔗 ErkDog you have to have ops
17:39 🔗 xmc not for !ao
17:39 🔗 ErkDog ohhhhh no crap, thanks
17:40 🔗 ErkDog ahhh ok o is no recursion, does that mean it basically saves the page itself and all assets of that page?
17:40 🔗 xmc yes
17:40 🔗 ErkDog gracias
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20:13 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/gawkeryoutube
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20:58 🔗 Martini-- Hi
20:59 🔗 Martini-- ...by any chance is somebody here ?
20:59 🔗 schbirid nope
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21:00 🔗 Martini-- Since you have more experience than me on the Intenet Archive, I was wondering if there are some tools to automate the uploding of files to the Archive.
21:01 🔗 HCross ia cli toolk
21:01 🔗 HCross tool
21:04 🔗 DFJustin Martini--: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/internetarchive
21:04 🔗 Martini-- https://github.com/jjjake/internetarchive
21:04 🔗 Martini-- That one?
21:04 🔗 DFJustin yep
21:11 🔗 Martini-- Thanks for the pointers.
21:12 🔗 Martini-- Do you know if someone has made some kind of frontend script to have sharing file website, but on the background the files are hosted on the Internet Archive?
21:12 🔗 nicolas17 I think that would lead to IA misuse
21:13 🔗 nicolas17 IA is not "free storage for anything"
21:14 🔗 MrRadar The IA would probably be able to figure it out pretty quickly due to the types of files those sites tend to attract
21:14 🔗 MrRadar (Encrypted multi-part RARs and obviously pirated content)
21:16 🔗 SketchCow People already do this.
21:19 🔗 Martini-- My single idea is not to pirating material. Is to make a file sharing service for OS/2 Warp.
21:20 🔗 Martini-- I want to make something like hobbes - http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-browse.php?dir=/pub/multimedia/pointer
21:20 🔗 nicolas17 any "file sharing frontend website" will attract piracy
21:20 🔗 Martini-- ...and at the same time store all files at Internet Archive.
21:21 🔗 MrRadar On the one hand OS/2 software would probably be a good idea to collect and archive since it's a dead platform
21:21 🔗 MrRadar On the other the IA can terminate accounts for any reason, including getting DMCA requests for content uploaded by them
21:22 🔗 Martini-- ...the idea is not to have illegal files there. Only the files that the community shares for the platform.
21:25 🔗 MrRadar Even if nobody uploads anything illegal they could still close your account and hide the items for essentially using them as a backend for a file sharing service
21:26 🔗 nicolas17 Martini--: and the idea of email is not to have spam, so? :P
21:26 🔗 MrRadar Mirroring your content onto the IA would probably be a good idea, but it should only be used as a mirror/backup of your primary storage
21:28 🔗 Martini-- The terms of use says "The Archive may immediately terminate this Agreement at its sole discretion at any time upon written notice..." but I can not find a wording yet that they forbide that practice.
21:30 🔗 Martini-- MrRadar, have you seen any project/tools to make that mirroring easy?
21:31 🔗 MrRadar No, though it should be easy enough to whip something up with the IA CLI tool
21:31 🔗 MrRadar If you really want to use the IA as a backend for a file sharing site you should contact them directly about it and get permission from them
21:34 🔗 Martini-- I would contact them if I found way to do it first :)
21:34 🔗 MrRadar info@archive.org
21:35 🔗 Martini-- Is it against the rules to make a site that has a "direct link" to an IA file? I don't see direct linking to a file as an issue to them. (if the file is legal)
21:35 🔗 Martini-- nicolas17: Estas feliz sin los K en Argentina ?
21:36 🔗 nicolas17 OT
21:36 🔗 MrRadar Yes, we should take this to #archiveteam-bs
21:36 🔗 Martini-- good.
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22:02 🔗 Martini-- ...wow...I'm reading on Twitter that SketchCow shaved some days ago.
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22:29 🔗 Martini-- Bye, thanks for the pointers.
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23:00 🔗 joepie91 https://t.co/BcBVXmznGm
23:00 🔗 joepie91 gah
23:00 🔗 joepie91 http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2016/08/19/journal-sentinel-archive-disappears/

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