[00:26] http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=File:WHYYYYYY_jscott.png [00:42] godane: Where did these PC Magazine scans come from [01:03] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam [01:06] *** Stiletto has quit IRC () [01:24] *** powerKitt has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [01:27] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [01:44] *** Swizzle has joined #archiveteam [02:09] *** logchfoo2 starts logging #archiveteam at Wed Nov 02 02:09:03 2016 [02:09] *** logchfoo2 has joined #archiveteam [02:19] *** bsmith093 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [02:21] *** bsmith093 has joined #archiveteam [02:25] *** Swizzle has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [02:26] *** scyther has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [02:27] *** Sanqui has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [02:28] *** Sanqui has joined #archiveteam [02:34] *** scyther has joined #archiveteam [02:47] *** maelstrom has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [02:51] *** maelstrom has joined #archiveteam [03:09] *** Stiletto has joined #archiveteam [03:31] *** Stiletto has quit IRC () [03:39] *** scyther has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [03:42] *** scyther has joined #archiveteam [04:15] *** brayden has joined #archiveteam [04:15] *** swebb sets mode: +o brayden [04:16] *** brayden has quit IRC (Client Quit) [04:17] *** brayden has joined #archiveteam [04:17] *** swebb sets mode: +o brayden [04:25] *** Stiletto has joined #archiveteam [04:30] *** maelstrom has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [05:06] *** Blackout has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [05:20] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 194 seconds) [05:26] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam [05:39] *** Blackout has joined #archiveteam [05:56] *** is- has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 633 seconds) [06:01] *** Blackout has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [06:02] *** is- has joined #archiveteam [06:22] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [06:27] *** Coderjoe has joined #archiveteam [06:28] any plans to archive pangya forums? http://forum.gamerage.com/pangya/forums/ (open to googlebot) [06:41] *** fjeiwo has joined #archiveteam [06:41] Is this where I can request a website to be archived? [06:57] fjeiwo: i think you might want to check #archivebot [06:57] *** eloos has joined #archiveteam [07:16] zhongfu actually, I meant to suggest a new project. I'm not sure if this is something that could simply be fed to the archivebot [07:16] It's an entire domain name that's going to go down but which has a lot of valuable information [07:18] It'd require locating all of the domain's subdomains, and storing them [07:32] why not just let us know what domain you're talkinga bout [07:36] Probably gamerage.com [07:44] is all of gamerage.com going down? I thought it was just pangya. [07:44] I really should have gotten an IRC client back in here sometime sooner than 2 months after the prior machine crapped out [07:48] *** WinterFox has joined #archiveteam [07:51] The domain is tiddlyspace.com [07:51] There are a lot of impressive TiddlyWiki-based projects that are going to be removed mid-December. [08:06] *** brayden_ has joined #archiveteam [08:06] *** swebb sets mode: +o brayden_ [08:09] shutdown notice, "Tiddlyspace Service Update": https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/tiddlyspace/gDqcOXvpiZc [08:09] *** yipdw has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [08:09] The hosting arrangement that supports the tiddlyspace service was renewed in December of last year, assuring that the service will be in place throughout 2016. However, it is unlikely that this arrangement will be renewed again at the end of this year. This means that unless someone either assumes the contractual ownership of the hosting arrangement or provides an alternative solution, the service will likely cease at the end of December, 2016. [08:10] *** yipdw has joined #archiveteam [08:11] *** brayden has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [08:32] *** brayden_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [09:02] Don't they also host wikis? [09:21] *** ravetcofx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 506 seconds) [09:47] *** fie has joined #archiveteam [09:47] alright, the date is "on or before 15th December 2016" [09:47] http://osmo-service.tiddlyspace.com/ServiceUpdate20160826 [09:52] *** nekomune has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [09:52] *** nekomune has joined #archiveteam [09:59] *** Yoshimura has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [10:04] *** Yoshimura has joined #archiveteam [10:18] Looking at the tiddlyspace at the moment. There are some APIs, but seems there is a (maybe regex maybe plain) whitelist of endpoints. If you hit something not on whitelist, it just resets connection. [10:19] Which, if accounted for, is beneficial for speed. [10:36] *** BlueMaxim has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [10:46] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [10:48] *** MMovie1 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [11:38] *** brayden has joined #archiveteam [11:38] *** swebb sets mode: +o brayden [12:39] *** VADemon has joined #archiveteam [12:52] *** fjeiwo has quit IRC (Quit: http://chat.efnet.org (Session timeout)) [13:33] *** Blackout has joined #archiveteam [13:36] *** Blackout has quit IRC (http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [13:37] *** WinterFox has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [13:45] *** fjeiwo has joined #archiveteam [13:46] So yeah I got disconnected but could I get an update on my proposal to archive Tiddlyspace? [13:52] fjeiwo: Too soon to ask. In my experience stuff takes longer to get to. If you want to talk aside, join #archiveteam-bs [13:53] I am not aware of a way to get a list of users, but did look at API. [14:40] 30gb document leak https://twitter.com/AnonymousGlobo/status/793602434337767428 [14:45] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam [14:52] *** ianweller has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [14:52] *** VADemon_ has joined #archiveteam [14:54] *** VADemon has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [15:01] *** ianweller has joined #archiveteam [15:12] *** powerKitt has joined #archiveteam [15:30] *** mona has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) [15:30] *** mona has joined #archiveteam [15:34] *** mona has quit IRC (Client Quit) [15:36] *** mona has joined #archiveteam [15:41] Okay. Perhaps obvious, but it's also an idea to ask the owners of the site for help. I don't think they'd mind if people archived it [16:15] *** bRick5772 has joined #archiveteam [16:46] *** bRick5772 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 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[19:03] *** JW_work has joined #archiveteam [19:35] *** maelstrom has joined #archiveteam [19:51] *** VADemon has joined #archiveteam [19:53] godane (or someone else who likes grabbing things): https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/history probably worth getting a copy of — all the exhibit catalogs since 1929. [19:56] *** Aranje has joined #archiveteam [20:09] https://archive.org/details/msdncds?&sort=-publicdate [20:09] Moo haa ha aa [20:11] JW_work: sounds like a job for ArchiveBot [20:12] So, Telegram, a chat service popular mainly with people who are about 3/4 the way of caring about privacy/security as well as furries, has this feature called channels, which allows one person to post public updates and others to subscribe (in a twitter/rss fashion, but no aggregation). [20:12] Thinking about doing discovery + scraping + archiving [20:13] powerKitt: feel free to drop it in! [20:14] SketchCow: nice! [20:15] *** maelstrom has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [20:36] *** jrwr has joined #archiveteam [20:39] Sanqui: you might want to consider joining and scraping the logs of public Telegram chats. [20:42] *** fjeiwo has quit IRC (Quit: http://chat.efnet.org (Session timeout)) [20:44] powerKitt: that makes me feel a little iffy, not the least because I'm myself in a telegram chat that's technically public, but I wouldn't be happy if its entire history was posted on the internet [20:45] ah, the conflict of an archivist with feelings. I support it from an archivist stance, I just don't want to be the one to do it, anyway. [20:46] i will voice my mild opposition to that [20:47] but i will not stand in your way [20:47] I do not think it's a case of Archiveteam resources being needed for this. [20:47] I feel as a archivist that the more information history has the more truth that will come to light in 50-60-100 years [20:47] Archive Team is a good clearing house for grabbing a lot of at-risk stuff [20:48] Thought-to-be-ephemeral material doesn't really count towards that [20:48] I might thought to be ephemeral by the material itself [20:48] I MEAN [20:48] I wasn't asking for ArchiveTeam resources but ArchiveTeam thoughts, anyway [20:48] Obviously all material appears to be ephemeral because people are fuuuuuuuck [20:49] Well, then you have it. Middling-to-"ehhh" [20:49] archiving semi-public rather-ephemeral material: ehhhh [20:49] Yeah, I get that [20:49] I go back and forth myself [20:49] Throw it into the pile, someone might want it for a research paper [20:49] in 100 years [20:50] For the record, this entire conversation should be in -bs [20:50] I think channels are designed to be public and wouldn't have second thoughts about them. Chats, even public ones, I do consider ephermal, and the fact that you can just join and download the entire history is just a tad bit scary from Telegram [20:50] The ENTIRE thing [20:50] second thoughts about archiving them* [20:50] APOLOGIES [20:50] But until we move it, this is going to be playing in the background: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X-Mrc2l1d0 [20:50] Which is accurate, because I want to rock with you all [20:51] We do our best to keep the channel clear [20:51] But we fail a lot [20:51] Which is fine [20:58] *** JW_work has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [20:59] *** JW_work has joined #archiveteam [20:59] *** JW_work has quit IRC (Client Quit) [21:19] *** Boneyard has joined #archiveteam [21:47] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [21:49] *** VADemon has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:50] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [21:57] why can't beautiful soup have a book. Youtube and google can only go so far! Not to mention the fact they suck for niche use cases. [22:00] *** Boneyard has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:09] *** JW_work has joined #archiveteam [22:14] *** Boneyard has joined #archiveteam [22:16] *** wp494_ has joined #archiveteam [22:21] *** wp494 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [22:33] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [22:34] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [22:42] Boneyard: try pyquery (if you're stuck with Python) - this should go to #archiveteam-bs though :) [23:05] *** Swizzle has joined #archiveteam [23:10] *** wp494_ is now known as wp494 [23:12] *** tyzoid has joined #archiveteam [23:13] Hey, is there any reason the archivewarrior only works on one project at a time? 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