#archiveteam 2017-03-06,Mon

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06:30 🔗 beret_ Drobox is killing all user "public" folder links on the 15th and I didn't seen much mention of it on the wiki/twitters. https://www.dropbox.com/help/16
06:31 🔗 beret_ the data will still *be* there, just completely inaccessible unless people manually update old links scattered across forums and so forth.
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06:33 🔗 beret_ I'm combing through my files with an ugly regex, and probably going to be wget-ing files or submitting them to the wayback machine, (I'm sure many will have long since tured to 404s though)
06:34 🔗 beret_ UGLY: pcregrep -riao --buffer-size 64Mhiao --buffer-size 64M 'https?(.*?)dropbox(.*?)/u/(.+?)(?=[" ])' / >> mostlyusableurls.txt
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07:07 🔗 beret_ derp, just check the logs and it's been mentioned since 2016, news travels slowly to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
07:09 🔗 beret_ *checked
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08:18 🔗 Nemo_bis http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=AlterVista stub created
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09:17 🔗 namespace Nemo_bis: Oh shit.
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09:38 🔗 joepie91 "telling them to login within 30 days or have their website archived"
09:38 🔗 joepie91 is that a euphemism for the circularly-shaped archive?
09:38 🔗 joepie91 :P
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09:53 🔗 SketchCow Is the bayimg project done?
09:53 🔗 SketchCow Also, I just modified the FOS machine's scripts so that the IMDB tumor is being handled by a different family of scripts.
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10:41 🔗 JensRex joepie91: /dev/null is a great archive. Holds massive data and performance is great.
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10:41 🔗 JensRex As long as you want the "I" part of I/O.
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10:55 🔗 joepie91 lol
10:57 🔗 namespace /dev/null is one of the largest digital archives ever constructed.
10:57 🔗 namespace Containing quite possibly petabytes of information.
10:57 🔗 namespace The only problem is nobody can determine how to get things back out. ;)
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13:21 🔗 Nemo_bis namespace: I heard of it, https://devnull-as-a-service.com/
13:55 🔗 JensRex That's hilarious :D
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17:37 🔗 DragonDav https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/03/06/u-california-berkeley-delete-publicly-available-educational-content -- 20k youtube lectures going dark Mar 15.
17:42 🔗 DragonDav Derp, just saw title.
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18:13 🔗 Paul_ It looks like many of Berkeley's open course materials will be taken down. Was there a project to archive them? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13768856
18:15 🔗 nicolas17 I came to say the same thing but saw it's in the channel topic
18:15 🔗 Meroje it's also on the wiki
18:15 🔗 Paul_ derb
18:15 🔗 Paul_ totally missed trhat
18:15 🔗 pnJay we should do a drinking game for the berkley posts
18:16 🔗 Paul_ Each person that comes in and asks you shoot?
18:16 🔗 xmc woop woop woop off-topic siren
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18:45 🔗 Hatsen WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
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18:46 🔗 xmc Hatsen: check your private messages
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20:12 🔗 pnJay #crapp.net is getting spammed, can anyone help?
20:12 🔗 xmc who are the ops in it, pnJay
20:13 🔗 pnJay just arkiver so far as i know
20:13 🔗 xmc looks like, yeah.
20:13 🔗 xmc arkiver: ping
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21:15 🔗 odemg SketchCow,
21:15 🔗 odemg "Hi! My name is Sunny and I'm a reporter for the Daily Californian. We are currently covering the recently announced restrictions on the online course content here at UC Berkeley and I was wondering if we could interview you regarding the efforts made to archive this content. My deadline is today 5:00 p.m. Thank you!!"
21:15 🔗 odemg sending the guy your way... ?
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21:24 🔗 xmc i'm gonna guess that he's busy
21:24 🔗 xmc given that it's almost 5pm already
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21:28 🔗 odemg xmc, in cali? I'm in the uk and got that message nearly 2 hours ago
21:30 🔗 xmc huh?
21:32 🔗 odemg he;s reporting for dailycal, so i presume he's cali based? (I'm high) but's its only just gone 1330 in cali?
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21:34 🔗 xmc yeah
21:34 🔗 xmc and 5pm is only a few hours from now
21:35 🔗 xmc and jason is almost certainly busy doing something else
21:35 🔗 xmc if reporter wants to report, he can come to #archiveteam-bs or the project channel and look around
21:35 🔗 xmc you know, doing, like, actual reporting
21:35 🔗 pnJay ^
21:37 🔗 odemg xmc, that's basically what I said, pointed him in right directions and told him the how is basically insignificant compared to why and where to resulting data ends up.
21:38 🔗 SketchCow Egad
21:39 🔗 odemg SketchCow, you may hear from this dude... http://www.dailycal.org/author/stsai/
21:39 🔗 xmc i'm just tired of reporters asking us to do their homework for them
21:39 🔗 xmc hi, as someone who avoids interviews,
21:40 🔗 odemg xmc, this is the first time a reporter showed up at r/Datahoarder / my inbox asking for info, xmc ditto, SketchCow and others can speak more eloquently on the subject also
21:41 🔗 odemg I just get high and download shit because deleting is bad, that's all, ain't doing interviews
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21:43 🔗 SketchCow I was gonna interview, but then I got high
21:43 🔗 SketchCow I was gonna give my point of view, but then I got high
21:43 🔗 SketchCow now it's a goddamn hit piece and I know why
21:43 🔗 SketchCow cause I got high, cause I got high, cause I got high
21:45 🔗 SketchCow Anyway, thanks for letting us know, high guy
21:46 🔗 xmc i should get high and then give an interview
21:46 🔗 odemg anytime SketchCow, thanks for the sing song :D
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22:45 🔗 SketchCow 17:43 <@SketchCow> 18:20 <@mkram> I really, really wish to know why we should not upload to IA _at_all_
22:45 🔗 SketchCow 17:43 <@SketchCow> 1. IA is uploading these directly into the wayback
22:45 🔗 SketchCow 17:43 <@SketchCow> 2. The chances we're going to end up with multiple variant-quality uploads is *high*
22:45 🔗 SketchCow 17:44 <@SketchCow> 3. The "public" face of this is causing TONS of attempts
22:45 🔗 SketchCow 17:44 <@SketchCow> 4. It pays to hold and then see, and produce the highest quality set, and upload that if needed
22:45 🔗 SketchCow 17:44 <@SketchCow> Someone paste that at him or others
22:45 🔗 hook54321 Do we have any plans for app.net yet?
22:46 🔗 dxrt hook54321: There's an underway warrior project for it already
23:04 🔗 pnJay hook we could use some ipv4 if you can chip in at #crapp.net
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23:12 🔗 SketchCow Can't wait to see how FOS handles the app.net onslaught
23:12 🔗 SketchCow The IMDB task... it's going to take weeks
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23:25 🔗 SketchCow In a super desperate flaily move, I'm moving the IMDB stuff to another drive
23:25 🔗 Kaz SketchCow: I can take app.net from you if needed.
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23:27 🔗 SketchCow I've been jacking FOS's drive between 74% and 89% for two weeks now, that's my concern.
23:28 🔗 SketchCow As long as our upload scrips are synchronized, I'm fine with either.
23:28 🔗 Kaz I can take FOS out the tracker and drop mine in, it's not a huge project in terms of disk space anyway
23:29 🔗 SketchCow I majorly cleaned up a bunch of to-dos on FOS, in the future I can just use both drives as needed. That increases capacity.
23:29 🔗 SketchCow But these ones where we're producin 5 billion tiny fucking 1k files, those are murderous
23:29 🔗 SketchCow I have no fix for it but man
23:30 🔗 SketchCow Extra bonus: S3 is super slow right now.
23:30 🔗 SketchCow Known issue
23:30 🔗 db48x all those poor inodes
23:31 🔗 xmc slonodes
23:31 🔗 db48x heh :)
23:31 🔗 Kaz SketchCow: swapped fos out my for server. rsync://rbx2.kurt.gg/appnet if you want to send your lot over
23:38 🔗 SketchCow What is your connection, if any to the current archiving of Berkeley's content online?
23:38 🔗 SketchCow I am one of the founders of Archive Team, which is among many groups who are making copies of Berekley's content. I've been giving guidance to the group as it archives the content, mostly trying to avoid redundancy.
23:38 🔗 SketchCow What is your opinion of the restrictions on public access of UC Berkeley's online course content?
23:39 🔗 SketchCow This was a cost-saving move that is backfiring - because UCB wouldn't consider spending the money for transcription, which is a completely reasonable requirement for a variety of reasons, they are simply blackholing years of great work. It's like shutting down a library because you won't pay for a ramp.
23:39 🔗 SketchCow Why is it important to you and this community to save and store these video contents somewhere else online while restrictions still allow Berkeley students access?
23:39 🔗 SketchCow These are valid, informative academic presentations of a wide-ranging variety of subjects, and the benefit to the world as an educational resource is significant. It'd be one thing to demand that universities create these videos, but this is a case where professors willingly signed up to have their courses and lectures available to the public, and a minor cost-cutting decision is wiping the history
23:39 🔗 SketchCow clean.
23:39 🔗 SketchCow --
23:39 🔗 SketchCow She also asked "why is archiving so important" and I didn't answer because
23:40 🔗 db48x :)
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