#archiveteam 2017-11-15,Wed

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balroghttps://boingboing.net/2017/11/14/phone-companies-are-the-worst.html
https://www.fastcompany.com/40495831/compuserves-forums-which-still-exist-are-finally-shutting-down
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bithippoArchiveteam project for the compuserve forums closing Dec 15? https://www.fastcompany.com/40495831/compuserves-forums-which-still-exist-are-finally-shutting-down
http://member.compuserve.com/forum_center/
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Somebody2bithippo: we're on it, but additional help untangling the Javascript would be welcome. I don't think there's a channel yet.
Also, please make a wiki page if you've got the time.
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bithippoI just finished grabbing all of it using grab site (/forum_center and /discussions). [04:24]
Somebody2bithippo: Wondrerful! Please upload it to IA.
How large is it?
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bithippo~2GB
200930492 Nov 14 23:20 member.compuserve.com-forum_center-2017-11-15-1e0ef872-00000.warc.gz
Grabbed offsite links, etc.
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astrid<3 [04:27]
bithippoLet me toss the wpull.log up somewhere to share [04:27]
Somebody2Please toss the *whole thing* up on IA, as soon as you can.
And/or dump it on a torrent and I'll seed it.
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bithippoWill be back with an item URL shortly. Standby!
(If javascript eval is/was required, that's not included and there is more work to be done)
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astridSomebody2: you know about the IA .torrent upload process, right? :) [04:30]
bithippoMisspoke. 200MB not 2GB, IA item uploading, parsing the wpull log to double check I got everything I intended to get. [04:34]
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Somebody2astrid: yep! [04:39]
astridkool [04:40]
Somebody2I just don't feel comfortable uploading stuff to IA myself, because I don't want to be responsible for maintaining it forever afterward. [04:42]
astridok [04:43]
Somebody2If/when IA adds the ability to orphan uploads (see https://archiveofourown.org/faq/orphaning?language_id=en ) for explanation, I'll gladly use it. [04:46]
astridyou can have the owner changed to someone else, but it requires manual intervention from IA [04:48]
SketchCow-----------------------------------------
FOS IS NOW A NEW MACHINE IP FOR THE NAME
THINGS MIGHT BREAK, WE'LL WORK IT OUT
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Somebody2Yeah, and I don't like to bother them unncessarily. [04:50]
astridfair enough. ---> #archiveteam-bs if this conversation continues [04:51]
bithippohttps://archive.org/details/member.compuserve.com-forum_center-2017-11-15-warc-archive [04:56]
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SketchCowI'll ingest it aftr [05:00]
astridi'm only seeing 7000 urls in that warc, hm. [05:00]
bithippoI checked for obvious paths I might be missing, didn't see any. [05:01]
astridlooks like the web forum thingy doesn't really go back into deep archives
or not reachable by wget-like tools at least
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bithippoIck. Sorry for the bother then. I'll make a note to dive in this weekend. [05:02]
astridoh, no worries!
this is a good start :)
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bithippoURL discoverability is hard ಥ⌣ಥ [05:03]
astridyeah and it doesn't seem to really want to let you diddle the numbers and get other posts [05:04]
bithippoI suppose.....I could just ask for the archives as a tarball?
Doesn't help on the WARC front unfortuantely.
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astridit's worth an ask for sure
this forum started before the web was a thing so even the warc isn't "original" in some sense :P
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bithippo'Tis old as time itself.
I think a good next step I'll try is to get a list of deep links using Google's results from other sites pointing in as starting points if enumeration isn't going to work.
Thank you everyone for the help!
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astridthere's little nav arrows at the top of each thread-view page, but you can't navigate outside the most recent 28 days or so
if you edit the thread id number in the url, it has to match the forum name in the url or you get an error
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SketchCow"If you need someone with a Fullscreen subscription(they are closing, its $6/mo) I.m the man but I may need some help figuring out the downloading of originals video series. Sorry I.m just not that savvy with downloading video. Just thought I.d let you know. #ArchiveTeam" [05:15]
astridoh but if you change the dropdown in the forum view thinger to "all", you get to cruise back to (i assume) the beginning of time
maybe it'd be as simple as setting the cookie that stores this value to "all" and then sucking it in with wpull?
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astridhm, i'm still not getting anything older than 2004 at the earliest, and most of it cuts off somewhere around 2010 (+- 5 years) [05:19]
bithippo@astrid What's the request look like in your browser's dev tools when forum viewer is set to "all"? [05:19]
astridi haven't gotten that far yet
it's actually time for me to go home and sleep, the cafe is about to close and it's near bedtime :P
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bithippoNight! Safe travels home. [05:22]
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ndurnerWasted efforts. :-( Again, https://board.net/p/Compuserve_forums. [07:04]
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wp494things with NCIX seem to be getting a bit more dire according to that ex-insider dude that's been frequenting /r/bapcsalescanada over the last little while
apparently a Canada Computers expansion location in BC seems to be exactly where one of NCIX's retail stores currently is
I'll gather some more stuff overnight and tomorrow and dump in -BS but I think after black friday/cyber monday we should get a move on
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ChorcaWondering if this has made it's way here yet: https://www.fastcompany.com/40495831/compuserves-forums-which-still-exist-are-finally-shutting-down [16:14]
JAAYes, we're grabbing it already. [16:17]
ChorcaAwesome. Was looking for a project but great to hear! [16:19]
JAAThere might be a warrior project later on. We're grabbing it with ArchiveBot right now, but we're not sure whether that will actually grab everything. [16:20]
ChorcaCool. Can help with whatever there. [16:21]
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LastNinjaJAA - will it be announced in here when it becomes a warrior project? or #warrior ? [16:47]
JAALastNinja: I'll make sure it gets mentioned here. [16:48]
LastNinjagreat thanks =) [16:48]
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ndurnerCan someone reset my password on the wiki? [18:22]
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masterX24caught a news for the deathwatch: http://forums.compuserve.com/discussions/Windows_Support/ws-winsupport?
compuserve forums being nuked on 15th. (forum center link at top links to the "hubpage" listing the "root categories" but no message on that page)
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PurpleSymWe’re on it. Can someone update the /topic? [18:58]
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masterX24woudln't have asked here if the wiki would have information on the forums. i checked the wiki before hopping on [19:09]
ndurnerI cannot log in to the Wiki, in the meantime there is ttps://board.net/p/Compuserve_forums (among other efforts) [19:10]
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Sanquistarted a wiki page for compuserve forums. http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=CompuServe_Forums [19:27]
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astridis there a compuserve channel yet
if not maybe #compuswerve
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schbirid2comburnerve [20:07]
ndurnerthanks Sanqui!
WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
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Sanquipmd [20:13]
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ndurnerI'm on #compuswerve and have asked bigwebb about logging it [21:00]
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swebbStarting to log #compuswerve now
op?
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secondhello [23:37]
SketchCowis it me you're looking for [23:43]
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LastNinjaI can see it in your eyes [23:55]
joepie91I can see it in your smile [23:55]

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