[00:00] *** ndiddy has joined #archiveteam [00:06] @JAA: As promised, toysrusinc.com WARCd from a residential connection: https://archive.org/details/www.toysrusinc.com-2018-03-09-51457a98 [00:06] ~5GB in aggregate [00:10] Thanks [00:34] *** fie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 360 seconds) [00:44] *** fie has joined #archiveteam [00:57] *** Asparagir has joined #archiveteam [02:08] *** ld1 has quit IRC (Quit: ld1) [02:11] *** qw3rty112 has joined #archiveteam [02:12] *** qw3rty111 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [02:14] *** fie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [02:14] *** ld1 has joined #archiveteam [02:19] *** antomati_ has joined #archiveteam [02:19] *** Svekla has joined #archiveteam [02:19] *** Asparagir has quit IRC (Asparagir) [02:19] *** ivan` has joined #archiveteam [02:19] *** atrocity has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** Burak has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** antomatic has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** bithippo has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** wacky has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** edsu_ has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** swebb has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** ivan has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** midas4 has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** zeeboots has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** jspiros has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** trs80 has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** Petri152 has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** wabu has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** pikhq has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** acridAxid has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** Frogging has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:19] *** joepie91 has quit IRC (hub.efnet.us irc.colosolutions.net) [02:20] *** Atros has joined #archiveteam [02:22] *** pikhq_ has joined #archiveteam [02:23] *** edsu has joined #archiveteam [02:23] *** wacky_ has joined #archiveteam [02:26] *** swebb_ has joined #archiveteam [02:26] *** FluffyFox has joined #archiveteam [02:26] *** fie has joined #archiveteam [02:30] *** joepie91_ has joined #archiveteam [02:34] *** _acridAxd has joined #archiveteam [02:34] *** _acridAxd is now known as acridAxid [02:35] *** swebb_ is now known as swebb [02:35] *** FluffyFox is now known as Frogging [02:36] *** midas4 has joined #archiveteam [03:16] *** ndiddy_ has joined #archiveteam [03:20] *** ndiddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 366 seconds) [03:25] *** qw3rty113 has joined #archiveteam [03:29] *** qw3rty112 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 600 seconds) [03:57] *** wp494 sets mode: +o swebb [03:57] *** swebb sets mode: +o joepie91_ [03:57] *** swebb sets mode: +o midas4 [04:15] *** fie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [04:29] *** qw3rty114 has joined #archiveteam [04:31] *** fie has joined #archiveteam [04:33] *** qw3rty113 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [06:20] *** fie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [06:31] *** fie has joined #archiveteam [07:15] *** Stilett0- is now known as Stiletto [07:33] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam [08:10] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:21] *** BlueMax has quit IRC (Leaving) [10:46] *** redlob_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:50] *** redlob has joined #archiveteam [11:50] *** atomotic has joined #archiveteam [11:57] *** C4K3 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [12:27] *** WubTheCap has quit IRC (Quit: Rebooting.) 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I sent him an email and haven't heard back (I understand he has a life). It's about a tool I help maintain and excessive derives. [18:03] He's on this IRC channel (although probably AFK). Jason acknowledges some of my things via email, but doesn't respond to every one of them. [18:04] *** fie has joined #archiveteam [18:39] *** C4K3 has joined #archiveteam [18:48] *** db48x has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [19:04] *** fie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [19:18] *** fie has joined #archiveteam [19:22] *** Falco has joined #archiveteam [19:24] *** fie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [19:24] Hey, I work at discourse.org, an open source forum software and wayback machine can't handle it right now. Can someone help me debug the problem and make our software work well together? [19:26] *** robink has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) [19:27] Falco: try to make it work without javascript [19:29] schbirid it does work without javascript already. But the waybackmachine is trying to archive the JS-enabled version [19:30] the page in question people reported is https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/acme-v2-and-wildcard-certificate-support-is-live/55579 [19:30] if you disable JS in your browser it should render just fine [19:30] it goes? i get a blank page for https://meta.discourse.org/ with no js [19:30] and that as well [19:31] *** RichardG has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:31] if I do a `lynx https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/acme-v2-and-wildcard-certificate-support-is-live/55579` it works for me [19:32] *** RichardG has joined #archiveteam [19:34] try lynx http://web.archive.org/web/20180313171525/https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/acme-v2-and-wildcard-certificate-support-is-live/55579 [19:34] oh it's working [19:35] if js is allowed on letsencrypt.org (but not on discourse.org) it gives a white page [19:37] *** fie has joined #archiveteam [19:38] hmmm [19:39] looks like people are complaining that creating an archive using the web interface doesn't work, ie `https://web.archive.org/web/20180313193805/https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/acme-v2-and-wildcard-certificate-support-is-live/55579?u=falco` [19:40] using the web interface, it sends down the user own user-agent. That we detect as Javascript enabled one, and we send down the JS version. Is there a way to detect it, so we can send the JS-free version? [19:41] https://web.archive.org/save/https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/acme-v2-and-wildcard-certificate-support-is-live/55579?u=falco [19:41] you could just always serve a non-js version <3 <3 <3 [19:41] i am off [19:49] *** keith20 has joined #archiveteam [19:50] *** keith20 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:50] *** keith20 has joined #archiveteam [19:50] *** keith20 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:50] *** keith20 has joined #archiveteam [19:50] *** keith20 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:51] *** keith20 has joined #archiveteam [19:56] *** fie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [20:01] *** ndiddy has joined #archiveteam [20:01] *** ndiddy_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [20:06] FWIW, Discourse works fine for me without JS, although it could use better CSS. [20:08] JAA, that's true, our non-JS is mostly aimed at crawlers so we skip most CSS. [20:08] anyone has an idea how to serve that version to wayback machine? [20:08] *** RichardG has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [20:09] *** fie has joined #archiveteam [20:11] Falco: I'd be surprised if you actually served different versions for JS and non-JS. Browsers don't tell the servers whether they support JS directly. So I expect that you serve the same HTML in any case, and if JS is supported, the JS code mostly replaces the page with the scripted version (with infinite scrolling and whatnot). [20:12] So I'd expect it to work fine through the Wayback Machine if the browser doesn't accept JS on IA. [20:13] Unfortunately, the WM requires JS for many things, so that's tricky to achieve (though possible with NoScript, I believe). [20:13] Anyway, let's move further discussion to #archiveteam-bs as this channel is mostly intended for announcements. 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