#internetarchive.bak 2015-03-16,Mon

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05:44 🔗 SketchCow This sounds great.
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14:57 🔗 sep332 is the updated census available?
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17:41 🔗 SketchCow I think it is.
17:41 🔗 SketchCow It's on the wiki.
17:43 🔗 sep332 I only see the one from March 4?
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17:49 🔗 SketchCow That's the one. Internal file was updated
17:50 🔗 sep332 oh! thanks
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20:42 🔗 closure ok, making 100k file git repo with usenethistorical+internetarchivebooks collections
20:43 🔗 sep332 closure: is there an easy way to split these into chunks? or to pick which files go to which chunk?
20:46 🔗 closure which, the collections?
20:46 🔗 sep332 yeah
20:47 🔗 closure I can import any list of md5 and url. Making ones from collections is easiest
20:48 🔗 sep332 ok. i'm wondering if it would be easier to have a "standard" chunk size like 500GB, or let each person/computer choose how much data they want
20:49 🔗 closure these repos are not 1 per person
20:49 🔗 closure they contain individual files from the IA, you can get any set you want
20:50 🔗 sep332 ok. can a client see how many other people have a copy of a particular file?
20:51 🔗 closure yep
20:52 🔗 sep332 ok cool;
21:04 🔗 closure hmm, fos is slower than my laptop at making these repos
21:04 🔗 closure probably because I have a ssd
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21:07 🔗 closure just updated http://git-annex.branchable.com/design/iabackup/ , new simpler design
21:19 🔗 closure annexed files in working tree: 103343
21:19 🔗 closure size of annexed files in working tree: 2.91 terabytes
21:23 🔗 DFJustin oh is that all
21:29 🔗 DFJustin reading through, this sounds really nice
21:29 🔗 DFJustin "They will also tend to retain the old version", this sounds like a feature
21:30 🔗 closure I think it can work, scaling wise. Bigger questions are, will there be enough people, not too many assholes, and can the IA upload a whole copy of itself in any reasonable time period?
21:30 🔗 closure tending to retain the old version is a feature, unless the old version is grossly illegal
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21:34 🔗 DFJustin allowing storage to be offline most of the time is a big plus imo, I'm starting to accumulate drives now which are still reasonably sized (500gb-1tb) but I'm retiring due to replacing with larger sizes or due to having used them for several years
21:34 🔗 DFJustin so I'd be glad to throw a bunch of ia content on them but finding hundreds of gb of free live space is more problematic
21:35 🔗 DFJustin and I would bet other people are in the same boat
21:39 🔗 DFJustin having clients send files to each other seems like the natural answer to the "ia bandwidth go boom" problem but I guess that involves substantial new code
21:40 🔗 DFJustin although, IA is already hosting torrents for most items anyway so maybe it would be practical to automate connecting to those
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21:44 🔗 sep332 MD5 isn't that weak when the original files and MD5 hashes are fixed.
21:45 🔗 sep332 the easy ones require the attacker to have at least some control over all the files involved.
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