#internetarchive.bak 2020-06-16,Tue

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11:11 🔗 joaquinit JAA: Hello.
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11:13 🔗 joaquinit RhinosF1: You can archive in archivebot a simple page of test.000webhostapp.com???
11:14 🔗 RhinosF1 Thanks. joaquinit
11:15 🔗 joaquinit <Major> RhinosF1: Your job for http://test.000webhostapp.com/ has finished.
11:15 🔗 RhinosF1 Where you can copied this??? joaquinit
11:15 🔗 RhinosF1 Next time you will be banned.
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11:15 🔗 RhinosF1 Operators, ban to joaquinit.
11:16 🔗 RhinosF1 He copys from archivebot banned.
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17:04 🔗 gioele hi, would it be possible to add a notification banner to http://iabak.archiveteam.org/ that states that this project is not active?
17:04 🔗 gioele Given the recent news about Archive.org, many people are turning to discovering IA.BANK and that website seems to imply that the project is still running (for example, the footer says "Last update: Tue Jun 16 13:00:01 EDT 2020")
17:06 🔗 gioele That said, is there a "postmortem"? Where can one read about the reasons behind abandoning IA.BAK? (Technical reasons? Difficulties? Costs? Lack of interest?)
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18:45 🔗 Kaz gioele: It wasn't planned very well, and it's (essentially) a load of perl script taped together running on top of git-annex
18:46 🔗 Kaz half the issue here is nobody remembers _how_ it works
18:46 🔗 Kaz the 'backing things up' was thought of (somewhat, it was still clunky), I'd hate to be in a position where we tried to do a restore
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19:43 🔗 gioele thanks Kaz for the info
19:49 🔗 Kaz That said, I'd really like to bring this back with some other implementation (maybe ipfs), I just haven't looked much into it
19:54 🔗 gioele Kaz: it looks to me that regardless of the "backend" the main problem is: how do you keep up with the changes (additions, possible modifications) to the IA once you have divided its content in shards?
20:01 🔗 Kaz yeah, that side of it is pretty much impossible. Essentially we'd have to work off of a census like we did with the original iabak, and just use that as a sort of point-in-time snapshot
20:01 🔗 Kaz even then, there would be changes from when we did the census, vs grabbing the data itself from IA
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