[01:06] <atphoenix> if it comes down to IA SPN vs AB !ao, I'd like to think that issuing AB !ao commands is less load on IA than using IA SPN. I know it is less immediate load. But OTOH, with whoever is scraping AB for URLs and submitting those back to IA SPN, means that single pages are getting grabbed twice.
[01:34] <Ryz> Hmm, problem is I don't exactly wanna spam it up with a ton of "!ao" stuff in #archivebot as there's no -spam equivalent right now
[01:35] <JAA> The big advantage of AB is that the WARCs are publicly accessible.
[01:39] <Ryz> Does that apply the same with chromebot?
[01:41] <JAA> Yes, but the chromebot archives are a bit messier since all jobs are mixed together into one WARC.
[01:42] <JAA> Still publicly accessible though.
[01:53] <Ryz> Ah, interesting~
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[02:14] <atphoenix> Ryz, !ao commands can be combined. Look at what socialbot does
[02:14] <atphoenix> e.g. <socialbot> !ao < https://transfer.notkiska.pw/ZuKSM/twitter-%23CoronaVirusSA --explain "For Craigle - socialscrape job 87b042289aa73354cf1c12a03b769ce29d193513"
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[02:17] <JAA> Ryz is well aware of that, but it only makes sense if the URLs in the list have some relation. If they don't, I'll /kickban your arse out of #archivebot faster than you can blink. :-)
[02:29] <Ryz> Heh, yeah I'm aware of "!ao <", the list of links I'm working through it's just a personal list of individual links relating to video games stuff; don't think it's necessarily worth it to run it in a list
[02:30] <Ryz> You did say AB is more efficient than WBM's SPN atphoenix~
[02:43] <atphoenix> not sure if that was directed at me, but I haven't submitted any unrelated lists via "!ao <". Probably should have added a 'to state the obvious' to my earlier message.
[02:45] <atphoenix> as for efficiency...I said I *think* AB is less load. It should be less load, if considered a single page grab is considered in isolation. I don't have proof. I did point out another caveat that probably flips the balance the other way. Public WARC access is certainly an AB advantage.
[02:45] <atphoenix> delete first instance of 'considered'
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[14:27] <JAA> AB is definitely less load for IA than SPN2. No idea about SPN1.
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