#jsmess 2016-08-06,Sat

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00:17 🔗 db48x I wish travel between here and Mountain View didn't take so long
00:29 🔗 naTmeg SketchCow: implemented you wish #2. to bring back the cursor use cfg.video.hideCursor = false; check sae.net for demo
00:30 🔗 naTmeg i've disabled the cursor for default, so you don't have to update loader.js on this one
00:33 🔗 naTmeg actually, feels better than expected :)
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03:07 🔗 db48x naTmeg: I suppose that's one way to do it
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03:15 🔗 naTmeg db48x: they simplest way for now. i'll check that api out later
03:15 🔗 db48x yea :)
04:00 🔗 naTmeg n8
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05:36 🔗 * db48x yawns
05:37 🔗 db48x if I had known this morning how much of a waste today was going to be, I wouldn't have bothered trying to do any real work
05:46 🔗 godane SketchCow: i downloadied the Nintendo Power for my archives
07:31 🔗 SketchCow Dude, they're everywhere.
07:32 🔗 bai now you're playing with power
07:33 🔗 SketchCow So wait, I think db48x needs to do the closure compile and install of the new sae javascript.
07:35 🔗 SketchCow Morning in UK!
07:35 🔗 SketchCow (and yes, as I expected, hiding the mouse is effective)
07:48 🔗 SketchCow I'll be doing lots of travel around today, so I'll be not around, BUT
07:48 🔗 SketchCow I checked, all 5 screenshotters are going full bore just fine
07:48 🔗 SketchCow 5 is really enough
07:59 🔗 SketchCow According to the search engine, 10,380 Amiga disks are in!
08:43 🔗 SketchCow The update naTmeg did is great (mouse) - db48x, when you get a chance, fling in the new scriptedamigaemulator.js for me somewhere.
08:44 🔗 SketchCow (Only you can closure compile it, which is probably not a great longterm strategy)
08:44 🔗 SketchCow But I'm really happy naTmeg is using this attention to radically update/upgrade SAE for us
08:45 🔗 SketchCow And the loader's getting a little upgrade too. Great all around.
09:17 🔗 bai nice, he added the pointerlock stuff?
12:20 🔗 SketchCow yes
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13:34 🔗 naTmeg db48x: hiya, there is something messed up. i still get the "Failed to download game data!" error under palemoon (firefox fork) on this win7 machine here. it worked some days ago and sae.net does also work with palemoon. so there problem must be in the IA framework. the error comes after "Emualtor Metadata", after loading sae-a500p.json. no more infos or errors in the console..
13:42 🔗 SketchCow if people could link to amiga programs of particular nice quality in the amiga section, I'd appreciate it.
13:42 🔗 SketchCow I will build a showcase for the announcement.
14:14 🔗 naTmeg SketchCow: "amiga" consists of serval parts. original amigas from a1000-a4000 belong to "amiga-classic". then there is "amiga-nextgen" using powerpc instead of m68k and is devided into "AmigaOS4" and "MorphOS". market and sales for classic died long ago and those apps do not have a website. you could find many of them at aminet.net as freeware now. and even for nextgen, you could count the apps that are currently for sale with bare hands..
14:18 🔗 db48x naTmeg: is it one particular item, or all of them?
14:18 🔗 naTmeg but the classic-market is not dead for new hardware and freeware-soft. there are some manufacutres and people (like me), who are buying :p
14:18 🔗 db48x naTmeg: also, could you go to the debugger and tell it to pause on exceptions, then see where it stops?
14:18 🔗 naTmeg db48x: all
14:19 🔗 naTmeg it does load sae-a500p.json, but not sae-a500p.cfg
14:19 🔗 db48x that's ok
14:44 🔗 naTmeg browserfs.js 9: [function(a, b, c) a,b are undefined
14:45 🔗 db48x hmm
14:45 🔗 db48x that's not super helpful
14:45 🔗 naTmeg hmm
14:46 🔗 db48x can you go up the call stack to loader.js, and see what we were doing?
14:46 🔗 db48x SketchCow: ping?
14:54 🔗 * naTmeg is such a newbie to debuggers. i'm normally not using them. trying to figure out how that works..
15:09 🔗 naTmeg hmm, fails on loader.js:771 with TypeError
15:10 🔗 db48x what's the text of the exception?
15:13 🔗 naTmeg there is no text, just the object
15:14 🔗 db48x in the debugger tab there's an inspector for local variables
15:14 🔗 db48x the exception shows up ther
15:14 🔗 db48x e
15:14 🔗 db48x you can click the twisty next to it to expand it and show more details
15:28 🔗 db48x also, as long as you're there, what's the value of AsyncMirrorFS?
15:29 🔗 naTmeg lol, i don't it. time to make coffee..
15:29 🔗 naTmeg http://www.219.dic.at/tmp/snap.png
15:36 🔗 db48x oh, weird
15:36 🔗 db48x your exception doesn't have a message
15:37 🔗 db48x but AsyncMirrorFS is undefined, so...
15:37 🔗 db48x oh, but it hasn't even gotten to that point yet
15:37 🔗 db48x it's on line 771, not 777
16:14 🔗 naTmeg hmm, the first exception does occur in es6-promise.js:111 http://www.219.dic.at/tmp/snap2.png
16:22 🔗 naTmeg no there's more..
16:29 🔗 db48x what version of the browser is that?
16:29 🔗 db48x you shouldn't be running code from e6promise.js at all, in a modern browser
16:31 🔗 db48x anyway, you can see the call stack along the top
16:31 🔗 db48x the right-most item in that list is where the exception occurred
16:55 🔗 naTmeg browser is palemoon, a firefox fork. the very first exception seems to come from jquery "An invalid or illegal string was specified". maybe this browser is just too old cos it have problems on other sites too. but strange that it worked smae days ago..
17:03 🔗 db48x some exceptions are fine, since they get caught and handled
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20:26 🔗 naTmeg db48x: seems to be this browser. now i've extra installed firefox and it does work with it, so i seems to be okay. ;)
21:42 🔗 SketchCow hurrah, screenshotting shifted to the new collections
22:05 🔗 db48x SketchCow: could you get the sourcemap for browserfs installed alongside browserfs.js?
22:05 🔗 db48x it's in the loaderlab
22:07 🔗 db48x then naTmeg will be able to use it to see into the browserfs source, and maybe will be able to figure out what the problem in Palemoon is
22:08 🔗 naTmeg could be an idea. i'm currently just preparing disk.js for CAPS-support..
23:09 🔗 SketchCow New thing happening
23:09 🔗 SketchCow db48x: Needs to wait until I get back
23:09 🔗 SketchCow I just can't get the devs to move
23:10 🔗 SketchCow So, new thing is I have something going in and stripping the date and creator out of the titles and shove them into the right metadata.
23:10 🔗 SketchCow After I'm sure it went well, I'm going to go back and strip the titles to be just titles.
23:11 🔗 SketchCow It'll look a lot less chinty
23:13 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/search.php?query=emulator%3Asae*
23:13 🔗 SketchCow If you watch along the side, you'll see it populate.
23:14 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/17-Bit_Intros_Music_Disc_1989-07_17-Bit_Software
23:14 🔗 SketchCow See? Creator and date shoved in
23:14 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/search.php?query=emulator%3Asae*&and[]=creator%3A%2217+bit+software%22
23:14 🔗 SketchCow And here, you can see the "by" now populating
23:14 🔗 SketchCow Doing 10,300 will take a little time
23:16 🔗 SketchCow Also, I wasn't clear on "showcase", obviously
23:16 🔗 SketchCow I mean stuff in the collection that just works, and makes sense.
23:17 🔗 SketchCow Like, 20-50 that people can go to with just "I just want to see it and have it work."
23:50 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_amiga_showcase

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