#jsmess 2017-04-25,Tue

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18:35 🔗 DFJustin r. belmont is a bit salty that we're not using mame's mac
19:09 🔗 SketchCow Somewhere I can see, or what
19:10 🔗 SketchCow Or do I even want to see
19:11 🔗 DFJustin shout box at http://forums.bannister.org/
19:13 🔗 SketchCow It is resoundingly unhealthy to think of using multiple emulators as betrayal, but Belmont keeps it light
19:13 🔗 SketchCow You were clear why
19:15 🔗 SketchCow Ideally, MAME does it faster and better across time
19:15 🔗 SketchCow Also, why do none of these people talk to me; it's silly
19:16 🔗 DFJustin belmont has a thing about irc
19:18 🔗 SketchCow Belmont has 9 ways to contact me
19:19 🔗 SketchCow They all do.
19:19 🔗 SketchCow I get that Al doesn't talk to me but I'm not hard to reach
19:20 🔗 DFJustin "-sl5 echoii" or "-sl5 echoiiplus" should be the magic for speech synth support
19:24 🔗 SketchCow What's an example of an item using speech synth
19:30 🔗 SketchCow I got it working
19:30 🔗 SketchCow But of course the one he mentions is a second floppy
19:30 🔗 SketchCow Which we can't do
19:30 🔗 SketchCow because
19:37 🔗 SketchCow On the other hand, a random set of machines are going to talk now
21:28 🔗 db48x you can add extra arguments in the json file
21:28 🔗 db48x extra_args: ["-sl5", "echoii"]
21:37 🔗 db48x DFJustin: you could point out that we can have both mame-macplus and pce-macplus emulators on IA, using PCE where perfect accuracy isn't actually needed
21:37 🔗 db48x and MAME where it is
21:59 🔗 bai yeah, ultimately this is just about what we can use to deliver the most access as easily as possible, if there are cases where mame works better no reason for us not to do that too
22:05 🔗 db48x I can understand the pain of creating a perfect implementation that nobody uses
22:06 🔗 db48x (for ridiculous reasons like the perfect implementation of the slow speed of an ancient floppy drive ;)
22:06 🔗 bai yeah there's a limit to how much realism people actually want :P
22:07 🔗 bai that's what I like about this stuff, in some ways you can configure these old systems to be their peak versions, better than what you had in the day
22:13 🔗 Vito` if mame supported comprehensive snapshotting that might help
22:25 🔗 db48x Vito`: it absolutely would
22:26 🔗 db48x it would be awesome for other things as well
22:34 🔗 db48x I bet it would be possible to automatically launch a program in the mac, if we had a boot disk with applescript
22:43 🔗 phe build/compile/link/debug PCE was a pleasure, mame build machinery is a pain, I'm not a fan of mammoth project
22:45 🔗 bai mame is definitely more powerful overall yeah, but that power and flexibility comes at a cost, complexity
22:58 🔗 phe mame is best at arcade, really great for that
23:06 🔗 DFJustin mame supports snapshotting
23:15 🔗 Vito` DFJustin: but not for every system

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