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   SketchCow: HEY
   <br> I'm in town to Monday
   <br> Short visit.
   <br> Anyone want to come to Friday Lunch?
   bai: won't be able to make it on friday unfortunately
   SketchCow: This is a pretty packed time, unfortunately, but I'm back in July
   <br> Rachel is here and there's a friend's memorial for the weekend and she is in rough shape
   <br> I'm around today and tomorrow if you want to hang during business hours
   bai: hmm, don't think I'll be able to make it today either
   <br> oh well, I'll catch you in july
   <br> sorry to hear about rachel/your friend
   SketchCow: I've uploaded SO MUCH SOFTWARE
   <br> https://archive.org/details/cdromsoftware?and%5B%5D=addeddate%3A2017-06%2A&amp;sort=-publicdate&amp;page=1
   bai: nice
   <br> I forget if we got iso mounting working or not
   <br> I mean I know we can with full download
   <br> but probably not with ranged support yet?
   SketchCow: We don't but we should think about all this
   DFJustin: so I've been doing some test compiles and webassembly is working well now in shipping browsers
   <br> apple2e runs fast enough to use the modern disk II emulation http://fos.textfiles.com/dfjustin/apple2e/apple2e/
   <br> jaguar and amiga are faster but not quite full speed yet fos.textfiles.com/dfjustin/jaguar/jaguar/ http://fos.textfiles.com/dfjustin/amiga/a500p/
   <br> as you would expect the speedup seems to be biggest on the things which were the most perversely slow compared to native, like amiga goes from like 18% to like 80%
   <br> not sure what the mobile situation is like but it may be time to look at switching
   bai: I mean the biggest problem with using this stuff on mobile is inputs
   <br> arcade games just aren't playable with swipe and no buttons, heh
   <br> so I wouldn't be TOO concerned with mobile support of wasm, other than to be able to say "look it runs"
   <br> if we roll this out to IA it would be in addition to the asm.js builds though, we'd want automatic fallback for non-wasm browsers
   DFJustin: firefox and chrome have had it for a few versions now, does edge?
   JohnTalen: Was looking at pcem. not so developer friendly. any actual documenation beyond make, ./pcem would help.
   DFJustin: I mean having a fallback is obviously best but I'd be curious what the market penetration of non-wasm-capable browsers actually is
   bai: I think edge supports it, ie11 doesn't, opera doesn't...
   <br> oh opera does support it
   <br> safari supports it as of a week ago
   DFJustin: ok so around 15% probably
   SketchCow: I hope JohnTalen didn't di
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   DFJustin: unless it was in the last 9 minutes
   SketchCow: Or there he is
   JohnTalen: <u>SketchCow</u>: I am here!
   <br> pcem not to be confused with pce.
   <br> <u>SketchCow</u>: I sent the author of v86 a home made custom installed Windows 95 hard drive. He is using it to fix whatever bug is in v86.
   <br> I was thinking about converting qemu to emscripten. But it doesn't support netcards at the very least. I will focus on v86 and leave qmu secondary. If you need me to intergrate the ST version into emularity I can do that.
   SketchCow: I think pce and v86 are good things to go after
   <br> all are a pain in the ass, which is why there are so few of us working on this
   JohnTalen: Also qemu doesn't officially support Windows 95/98.
   <br> <u>SketchCow</u>: yes you got that write. nothing solid in all areas. Qemu might be good post 98 like xp/2000.
   <br> Okay, I'll get the ST portion wrapped up into emularity then.
   bai: <u>JohnTalen</u>: if the emulators don't do network cards but do serial port emulation, we can work with that at least
   JohnTalen: <u>bai</u>: okay.
   <br> I tried video support for qemu and it works nicely, but using the same image in v86, not so much.
   SketchCow: And for the record
   <br> There've been MULTIPLE cases of JSMESS/Emularity work driving innovation among emulators
   JohnTalen: ok
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   JohnTalen: analyzing v86 source tonight and tommorow morning, then porting ST emulation to emularity.
   SketchCow: Fantastic
   <br> Work with us if you get stuck
   db48x: <u>JohnTalen</u>: I'll be esecially interested to hear your questions about integrating it with emularity once you've got it compiled
   <br> especially
   DFJustin: <u>db48x</u>: have you looked into testing for webassembly support in emularity
   db48x: <u>DFJustin</u>: if we build to wasm with emscripten, then the emularity kindof doesn't have to do anything
   <br> <u>DFJustin</u>: because the output is still mixed JS and wasm, and part of what the JS does is load the wasm
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   DFJustin: but if we want to say "if wasm is available, load this js which loads the wasm, otherwise load this other js which is asm.js"
   db48x: hmm
   DFJustin: to allow for older browser versions / unsupported browsers
   JohnTalen: <u>db48x</u>: What I'm wondering now is why pce-20170208-df19414 isn't already integrated since it is necessary for pce-mac emulation.
   <br> <u>SketchCow</u>: ok great. Thanks SketchCow!
   db48x: <u>JohnTalen</u>: not integrated into what?
   JohnTalen: *isn't already integrated into emularity...'.
   <br> that is, the project, on github.