#jsmess 2017-11-19,Sun

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SketchCowI'm enjoying bfod and his many, many, many requests [01:39]
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db48xSketchCow: http://gcserver.magnet.nyu.edu/~bennett/emu/antattack-spectrum.html
SketchCow: requests plus action
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SketchCowWell, I'm glad to hear that, at least.
While sitting in a rainy car today, I had an epiphany about next-gen Emularity
Now I have to check with all of you if you have time and interest in giving time towards it
I believe arkiver bai devesine and Vito have indicated they're out. :)
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db48xI'm always interested in ideas :) [02:06]
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SketchCowExcellent.
I'm wondering if I dump them here or in a doc
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db48xadvantages to both [02:33]
SketchCowWell, it's nothing I am trying to hide or perfect before discussing.
In summary: COMPUTERLAB.ARCHIVE.ORG
We've wanted to do "full virtual machine" for some time now, and we've been dreading trying to shoehorn it all into the archive's interface
So fuck it, we make an interface that uses IA resources, but is completely geared for this.
So you go there, check out a machine, and you can save and load disks and the whole rest
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db48x:) [02:35]
SketchCowWith the ability to reference disks in the Internet Archive's collection, etc.
And then it's everything we want.
And we're not falling backwards through 25 painful layers of CORS and misery
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DFJustinI like [02:36]
SketchCowAnd db48x doesn't keep getting good excuses not to take his free time and spend it on *
Because oh boy, turns out obscurity.php makes keyboards not work
I'm trying to prevent a hanging, is what I'm saying
Murder suicide
A spree
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db48xby whom? [02:38]
SketchCowYou, if we try to do COMPUTERLAB in the System
As opposed to a nice start from scratch thing where emularity stretches its legs
And we can try to solve the real problems, like image saving and screenshotting and so on
And keyboard through browser
Without finding things getting seized up by IA infracoding
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db48xheh [02:40]
SketchCowI mean, make no mistake, I really really really want webassembly going on IA as soon as you can
But I think this higher-level computer lab thing, where we bring up this thing that will do the thing we all want....
...I think that's the true endgame for anything beyond using Emularity as a "player" on IA
So, there's things like https://www.scullinsteel.com/apple2/
And http://www.virtualapple.org/
I feel like there's real pros and cons to Skeumorphic-a-tastic version
But I also hate when things look like a spreadsheet
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db48xspreadsheets are pretty much my skill level for web design [02:45]
SketchCowRight, you wouldn't be doing the design
Or me
We'd get someone
And we'd probably try to be flexible, so we could have skins
There's probably 4,192,222,122 (checks watch) 4,192,222,129 people who can do the whole "make a website out of these components" thing
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db48xI think IA's approach has a lot of merit [02:46]
SketchCowI do not
I do too I mean
Wow, that was a typo
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db48xwith IA's model you get a big list of concrete goals: play game X, play game Y [02:46]
SketchCowAgreed [02:47]
db48xyou click on it, and we configure the emulator for you [02:47]
SketchCowI think as a player model it works
It's just we keep nibbling at "more than a player"
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db48xyou don't have to muck about with 13 different options for the expansion slots [02:47]
SketchCowThat means a menu
that means not this or that
I also like the options, though.
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db48xbut there is merit to the other approach [02:48]
SketchCowhttps://defacto2.net/f/ae2c29?name=-&platform=dos&section=-&sort=date_desc&dosmachine=svga&dosaudio=gus&dosspeed=max [02:48]
db48xgiven a list of printers available for machine X, compare the print output from software Y [02:48]
SketchCowI am just having the rain-based epiphany that it makes sense to try to make a site that's easy to use but lets you go deeper
But could also be used by kids
or people tinkering
Or people with Mac disk images
bing, here's your mac
Click in a disk
Save out a disk
Even have minimal versions where you can literally be working in a word processor from beyond time and still use it now
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Anyway, that's the idea. We should continue to make the player better but not try to turn it into a Transformer combined with a swiss army knife [02:55]
db48xI think it's a good idea [02:56]
SketchCowI'll assemble some things into a doc as soon as I'm back from Japan [02:57]
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baiSketchCow: just wanna clarify, I'm not *out*, just particularly busy at the moment, I'm always here to spitball ideas or make incremental changes, just hard for me to commit to the big stuff [03:21]
SketchCowI mean from committing to this particular thing right now
I know that devesine is just waiting for that next big thing to jump into with us
I will ping icc again
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I feel like that's just sitting there
Waiiiiting
A huge performance jump, maybe the last big one
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