[15:55] Hi ! What is the boot script which is used in the ova file ? (is it somewhere in github ?) [15:55] my goal is to run the warrior on any debian (I think it's debian based ?) [15:56] ritonlajo: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/warrior-code2 [15:56] ok thanks ! [15:57] Actually the code to bootstrap from scratch is in ArchiveTeam/warrior-preseed [16:00] thanks, I'm aiming at Qemu so I'll watch the code in that preseed project also [16:00] do you think warrior can run on windows ? [16:02] It's a virtual machine. As long as the host system lets it make tcp and udp connections it should be fine [16:02] I'm asking about the software [16:02] I see it uses Lua [16:02] maybe python [16:03] I'm building an installer for windows, as well as a C# frontend for the Qemu image [16:03] maybe I can just try to make everything run on windows (the warrior code) [16:03] instead of going this way [16:06] I don't think it will work direcly on Windows [16:07] Let me explain: There is a reason why the warrior is a VM and not just a bunch of programs. Back when the ArchiveTeam was founded, everyone used their own tools [16:08] We were trying to rescue Geocities. Some people used wget, some aria2c, some heritirx, some their own tools [16:08] And even those people that used wget used different command-line options and different versions [16:08] We ended up with a bunch of downloaded files, with differeing folder structures, missing metadata, etc. [16:09] The warrior VM makes sure that everyone uses exactly the same wget version, exactly the same command-line options etc. [16:10] When we need a special program to download a website (e.g. youtube-dl), we can just add an "apt-get install XXX" or "pip install XXX" to the pipeline script and we know it will work [16:10] Instead of having each warrior compile his own version of wget-lua, we just add a precompiled binary into the git repo for the project, because we know that it will be run in a homogenous environment [16:21] ok [16:21] I understand the history thanks for the explanation :) [16:21] have you thought about which userbase you want for warrior ? [16:21] is that more windows/unix guys ? [16:22] (to you know ?) [16:22] s/to/do [16:24] I don't think anyone has thought about the userbase besides "we want as many user as possible" ;-) [16:24] ok :) [18:54] re [20:06] ritonlajo: I wouldn't spend time on making the thing Windows-compatible. It's no fun, I think. (And why don't these people just run a virtual machine?) [20:07] Hey, no need to do that. [20:07] God, do I not want this on Windows [20:07] the whole POINT is it's on a virtual box, and people on Windows, Linux and OSX all get the same machine. [20:08] Some smartasses are running it on things like Ubuntu and Amazon EC instances, because there's a few rare cases of the service being so huge we need someone running many dozens of instances at once, but those are this tiny fraction and being done with a high-communicating collusion of people, in a specific channel and in direct contact. [20:09] 12:23 < ritonlajo> have you thought about which userbase you want for warrior ? [20:09] Everyone who can run a warrior using the vm box. [20:10] I.e. Windows, Unix, OSX [20:10] The WHOLE POINT is that this removes it MATTERING [20:10] We have SO MANY broken projects in our now-distant past [20:10] Because someone went "But wait, I can port it using sdoighdoifughapsodifughdifughdfg or kwsfjhskjdfhskjdhf 4.5" and next thing we know we have a pipeline of incompatible horseshit being checked off as [X] DONE [20:18] * Smiley nods [20:18] * Smiley then giggles as soultcer basically explained that about 4 hours ago too. [20:18] Yeah, I saw that [20:18] Oh wait. Urtgh the guy didn't get it, appolgoies, I'll shut up now [20:19] I wanted to double it up though [20:19] yeah, I thought he said "oh i get it". but hten he asked about windows/linux again.... ¬_¬ IT DOESN'T MATTER. (what's that song...." [20:24] I think the Wget people would be very happy if someone was able to compile the latest Wget for Windows. [20:28] maybe, but *we* don't cre. [21:07] Of course. I just wanted to say that I don't think there'll be a working Windows Wget soon. (Maybe a broken Windows Wget would be even worse.) [21:09] ok ok np I was just asking (for the windows stuff) [21:09] I understand :p [21:36] shrug at windows