| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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14:11
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ersi |
Is jjonas the 'famous' jonas? |
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14:13
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Schbirid |
do you mean if he has a brother? :} |
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14:14
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ersi |
No, I'm asking if jonas == jonas. |
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14:45
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SmileyG |
if I was him, I'd be asking "Famous for what?" ;) |
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14:46
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ersi |
Indeed |
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15:22
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SketchCow |
Yeah, REALLY need more info |
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18:29
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SmileyG |
SketchCow: I erm. Ok ? |
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18:29
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SmileyG |
:/ |
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18:30
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SmileyG |
btw. what is "SF" in relation to talking about IA.org? |
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18:30
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SmileyG |
SourceForge? San Fan? |
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18:30
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SmileyG |
fran* |
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18:31
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underscor |
sanfran |
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18:32
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SketchCow |
You know what's really aspy? |
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18:32
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SketchCow |
I mean, really just cooking with aspbergers? |
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18:32
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underscor |
mmm, I could go for some burgers right now |
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18:32
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SketchCow |
When someone says "stop pasting bullshit in the channel" |
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18:32
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SketchCow |
And you go "a-hilt! Actually I'm pasting it using output from a script! a hyuk!" |
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18:33
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underscor |
lol |
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18:33
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joepie91 |
lolol |
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18:33
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SketchCow |
That makes me want to put you in 45 different unnumbered boxes and make you a geocache puzzle |
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18:33
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underscor |
hahahahahahahah |
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18:33
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underscor |
SketchCow has the most fantastic insults |
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18:33
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joepie91 |
^\ |
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18:35
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yipdw |
sounds tricky |
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18:35
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yipdw |
I could use a hand with that |
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18:36
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SmileyG |
SketchCow: w0w cool |
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18:36
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SmileyG |
I wondered a few times if I'm aspy |
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18:37
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SmileyG |
but in reality I'm not high enough I think :( |
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18:37
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SmileyG |
I'm just broken. |
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18:37
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SketchCow |
I have no idea if you're aspy |
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18:37
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SketchCow |
And frankly, uninterested in really determining it |
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18:37
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underscor |
did you guys hear the trololol guy died? |
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18:37
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SketchCow |
But stop acting like it |
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18:40
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SmileyG |
underscor: yeah :( |
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18:40
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SmileyG |
SketchCow: its hard to stop being me :< |
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18:40
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yipdw |
huh, if you google "bull feces" and hit I'm Feeling Lucky, you get to the Wikipedia article on bullshit |
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18:40
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yipdw |
I guess that shouldn't be surprising |
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18:40
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yipdw |
but I find it interesting |
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18:40
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SmileyG |
hmmm |
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18:40
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underscor |
I think "<SketchCow> That makes me want to put you in 45 different unnumbered boxes and make you a geocache puzzle" should be part of the topic too |
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18:40
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SmileyG |
you mean google returns a relevent result o_O |
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18:41
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* |
SmileyG remembers something he heard, thinks of his asperations and realises he doesn't mind if SketchCow wants to chop him up |
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18:42
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SmileyG |
at least I get remembered! |
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18:43
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ersi |
who's the aspy? only saw underscor pastin' stuff |
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18:43
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ersi |
we all know underscor is special, but I'm guessing it's referring to someone else ;) |
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18:43
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ersi |
underscor <3 |
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18:43
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SmileyG |
me. |
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18:43
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SmileyG |
:D |
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18:44
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SmileyG |
I'm just.... I dunno |
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18:44
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SmileyG |
broken, in so many ways |
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18:44
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SmileyG |
but if I don't talk about it, no one knows and thinks I'm trying to be something |
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18:44
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SmileyG |
and If I do, they think I'm trying to make a point o_O |
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18:45
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ersi |
bah, everyone was active just a moment ago :( |
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18:47
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yipdw |
speaking of aspies, I have a question |
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18:47
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yipdw |
I'm trying to get curl to recognize symlinked certs in /etc/pki/tls/certs as trusted |
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18:47
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yipdw |
because I don't want to overwrite the system-provided bundle |
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18:47
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yipdw |
is there any way to actually do that, or is curl hardcoded to just look at one file? |
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18:47
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ersi |
gently ignoring the subject are we ;o |
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18:48
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yipdw |
this is CentOS 6.2, btw |
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18:48
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SmileyG |
hmmmm |
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18:48
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yipdw |
ersi: no, this just seems like something an aspie would snort at and tell me the answer to |
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18:48
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SmileyG |
centos.... |
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18:48
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SmileyG |
well yipdw if it IS hardcoded yo ucan just build a curl bin... |
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18:48
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yipdw |
SmileyG: we're trying to stick to vendor-provided packages as much as possible |
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18:48
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yipdw |
for maintenance purposes |
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18:49
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ersi |
oh, I have SmileyG on ignore :D He's the aspie, isn't it? ^_^ |
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18:49
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yipdw |
I have a symlink from /etc/pki/tls/certs to the actual cert, which gets OpenSSL recognizing it as trusted |
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18:49
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yipdw |
but it looks like curl doesn't use OpenSSL's verification routines, or something |
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18:49
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SmileyG |
i guess it doesn't work with --certs |
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18:50
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yipdw |
no, it works fine if I pass the certificate with --cacert |
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18:50
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SmileyG |
right..... |
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18:50
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yipdw |
but that's not what I want -- I want a way to recognize a certificate as trusted without mucking up the vendor-provided bundle |
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18:50
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yipdw |
curl -v indicates that, yes, it is reading from /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt |
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18:50
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SmileyG |
:/ |
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18:51
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* |
SmileyG is too confused |
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18:52
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yipdw |
well hm |
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18:53
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SmileyG |
put the ca-bundle.crt in the "default" location? |
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18:53
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yipdw |
it is in the default location |
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18:53
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SmileyG |
but ignores it unless you specify it manually? |
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18:53
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yipdw |
no, it uses it fine |
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18:54
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yipdw |
however, the certificate I want to trust is not in the bundle, and that's intentional |
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18:54
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SmileyG |
O. |
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18:54
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yipdw |
because the bundle is provided by CentOS packages and I don't want to overwrite it |
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18:54
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SmileyG |
Oh, you just want to overwrite "one" cert, which is in the bundle? |
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18:54
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yipdw |
rather, I want curl to be able to use the same verification mechaisms that OpenSSL does |
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18:54
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yipdw |
no, I do not want to overwrite anything |
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18:54
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yipdw |
one second |
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18:54
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SmileyG |
override* |
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18:55
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yipdw |
https://gist.github.com/ae813158dff50b12668f |
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18:55
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yipdw |
that's the problem |
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18:55
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SmileyG |
this strangely sounds like something I had an argument about at work many months ago |
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18:55
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yipdw |
I realize the CN is wrong, but for now that isn't the issue |
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18:56
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SmileyG |
? |
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18:56
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SmileyG |
so you pass --cacert <cert to use> |
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18:56
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yipdw |
no, I don't -- as I said, it works fine if I point it at the cert to use |
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18:56
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SmileyG |
right |
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18:56
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SmileyG |
by default it'll only use the bundle |
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18:56
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SmileyG |
else you need to rebuild it iirc |
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18:56
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SmileyG |
and then you can link in other certs to try. |
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18:57
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SmileyG |
OR you pass --cacert |
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18:57
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yipdw_ |
huh, my system droppde |
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18:57
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yipdw_ |
anyway |
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18:58
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SmileyG |
lol |
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18:58
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yipdw_ |
yeah, I want curl to be able to figure out "oh, there's another cert I should use *in addition to* the bundle" |
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18:58
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SmileyG |
rebuild it. :/ |
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18:58
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yipdw_ |
I'm reading curl's source code, though, and I'm not even sure it's possible |
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18:58
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SmileyG |
o |
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18:58
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yipdw_ |
ugh |
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18:58
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yipdw_ |
I already said |
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18:58
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yipdw_ |
rebuilding is not a useful alternative |
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18:59
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yipdw_ |
nor would it make much difference if curl can't even do it without modifications to its verification code |
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19:00
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ersi |
rebuild it just in case! It'll be faster if you recompile it! |
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19:00
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ersi |
remember to add -funroll-loops |
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19:00
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SmileyG |
+_+ |
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19:00
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underscor |
I read that as fun roll |
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19:02
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SmileyG |
yipdw: surround it in a script which calls the default one, and if that fails calls it with --cacert? :< |
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19:02
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SmileyG |
I don't understand what you think your going to do to be honest. |
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19:03
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yipdw_ |
I figured it out |
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19:04
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yipdw_ |
like most OpenSSL-using systems, curl accepts a --capath option |
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19:04
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SmileyG |
oh |
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19:04
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yipdw_ |
which can be configured in a config file |
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19:04
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SmileyG |
hahaha |
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19:04
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SmileyG |
so you want it to use BOTH? |
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19:04
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SmileyG |
Gah, If I understood that i'd of told you |
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19:04
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yipdw_ |
that is what I've been saying |
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19:04
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SmileyG |
its the next option in the man file after --cacert |
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19:05
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SmileyG |
man pages, they are the WIN! |
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19:05
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yipdw_ |
FYI |
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19:05
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yipdw_ |
http://www.myaspergerschild.com/2010/12/aspergers-students-and-poor-reading.html |
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19:07
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yipdw_ |
I just realized, too, that the JVM (which is what I ultimately need to make work) uses its own fucking trust store |
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19:07
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yipdw_ |
so while curl is a nice diagnostic there's an entirely different thing to set up |
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19:07
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SmileyG |
:D |
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19:07
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yipdw_ |
I hate Linux |
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19:08
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yipdw_ |
and Windows |
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19:08
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yipdw_ |
and everything |
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19:09
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yipdw_ |
seriously, what the fuck is wrong with the idea of ONE trusted certificate store |
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19:09
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yipdw_ |
is it too simple? |
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19:09
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SmileyG |
see the reading stuff doesn't make sense for me |
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19:09
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SmileyG |
i can look at words and figure out what they mean when I don't know the word :/ |
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19:10
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SmileyG |
I sometimes find I read things differently to other people |
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19:10
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SmileyG |
But both ways will be correct, english is especially ambigious. |
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19:22
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* |
ersi fun rolls underscor |
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21:18
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SmileyG |
lolk |
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21:18
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SmileyG |
well, wow. |
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21:18
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SmileyG |
Geode is slow to unpack my packages :/ |