[02:10] anyone know why suddenly i hit enter and get an M on the irssi inputline and have to hit ^J to send? [02:10] similar issues in other screen windows [02:11] TERM set incorrectly? [02:11] (bash just beeps at me on enter) [02:11] but how would it suddenly change? [02:12] Coderjoe: did this happen in the time you've had the terminal open? [02:12] no but i have used the same saved putty session many times before without issue [02:13] Coderjoe: i'll put like six trillion dollars on $TERM being incorrect [02:15] i did the same thing I have done a billion times before: connect using the putty saved session and done a screen -x [02:15] but suddenly, the TERM would be wrong this time? how would it suddenly change like that? [02:16] well, the problem of hitting enter and getting M is definitely something to do with a terminal type mismatch [02:16] and it works fine outside screen [02:17] there could be something other than TERM set incorrectly, but i don't know what [02:17] i know that. I just don't understand how it would have changed under irssi and everything [02:17] stuff in screen is using a TERM of screen [02:18] and screen should be taking care of converting to the actual term type which is correct in the outer shell [02:19] then i don't know [03:01] under screen, when i hit enter, screen is sending esc-OM [03:01] Coderjoe: only in putty? [03:03] i have nothing else to test with, and this was working just fine for months until today [03:04] the only difference i can think of is that the terminal emulator i was using in knoppix (konsole, iirc) is no longer attached [03:04] i suppose i can try with connectbot [03:05] tesi [03:05] well, connectbot works [03:06] even after detatching everything [03:06] weird [03:07] and putty's still wrong after reattaching [03:08] ugh [03:09] i turn off numlock and it works [03:09] and turn it back on and it fails again [03:09] but it used to work fine with numlock on :( [03:10] wat! [03:10] how does that make sense [03:11] something thinks my normal enter key is the same as the keypad enter key? [03:12] but only with numlock on [03:15] does the keypad enter key do that? [03:15] i've never tried [03:15] (oh, i just died, on that line right there) [03:15] but it only happens within screen again [03:16] hm :/ [03:42] grr [03:42] well, if I set "disable application keypad" in putty, all seems to work [03:43] excellent [03:44] i just hope i remember all the channels i was in [04:07] /save and /layout save [04:07] if using irssi [04:08] or course it's useless if you don't have your channels saved [04:08] of* [04:27] and how would you save the channels? [05:04] wow. the makey mackey is at 20x funding [05:09] /channel add [05:09] then when you join them they're placed to the saved locations [05:37] http://i.imgur.com/Z9szy.jpg [05:37] mildly nsfw [13:37] aww, poop. just missed the ovh bhs giveaway by 35 minutes [13:56] And warrior is off. [13:57] thats a lovely mysql exploit ¬_¬ [14:38] good afternoon [15:10] I fucking hate my router [15:11] Anyone think this looks OK? http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=20032&cPath=1296 [15:16] ..128mb RAM? really? [15:19] anyone know of any ebay data mining projects? [15:23] winr4r, I dunno anything about all this [15:23] http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=200_1296&products_id=19238 < what about this one? [15:23] sketchcow set us up the bomb? http://yfrog.com/kewlxpmrj [15:24] BlueMaxim: i dunno man [15:25] i've never really had to think about this sort of thing [15:26] http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/start might be a good idea [15:28] Schbirid that page is confusing [15:28] indeed :( [15:30] It can't even tell me if 64MB of ram is good, which is weird [15:33] BlueMaxim: you any good with linux/fun stuff? [15:33] heh [15:34] Wasn't it you asking yesterday? [15:34] SmileyG, not even close [15:34] Yes it was [15:34] lol [15:34] Build your own router [15:34] get a geode board. [15:34] 3 onboard ethernet. [15:34] get a wifi card for it and go crazy. It'll cost about the same I bet :o [15:34] lol nope, I can't even put a PC together :| [15:35] lol ok then maybe not :< [15:36] I guess I'll just get the Netgear one and hope for the best [15:37] i would never pay so much for a route [15:37] but then i have no clue about them [15:37] that price is kind of extordinary [15:38] for what looks like basically a home/small office router :S [15:38] No, I don't know what to suggest instead. [15:38] we use 3 £50 routers in the office (yes they are routers, with openwrt we turned that into a 5th ethernet port. [15:41] Well yeah, it's basically a home router [15:41] Router Model [15:41] Netgear WNR3500v2/U/L [15:41] Those. Nice. Get. [15:41] Load Average [15:41] 0% [15:41] 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 [15:41] :D [15:41] thats with 3 wifi clients. [15:41] Total Available [15:41] 26.8 MB / 32.0 MB [15:41] 14.6 MB / 26.8 MB [15:41] Free [15:42] does the one I have up there look OK though? [15:42] No idea, not used it [15:42] and I've learnt to trust nothing on their websites. [15:43] It *looks* nice BlueMaxim but no idea if its any good in pratice. Seems rather expensive though. [15:44] Yeah, well to be honest I can't trust "cheap" routers though [15:44] I've bought two routers in the $75 range [15:45] One is the one I'm using now that refuses to save settings [15:45] And the other one died right out of the box [15:46] Hense why I showed you the model of a known good one [15:46] (we have 3) :D [15:49] Can't seem to find it anywhere [15:49] :/ [15:50] What manufacturer was that one you linked? [15:52] Netgear [15:52] Well the second one was Netgear [15:52] Other was Asus [15:55] http://luna.folger.edu/luna/servlet/BINDINGS~1~1 [15:56] good: lots of old book bindings [15:56] bad: stored in some crapped-up system that doesn't give you an easy way to download anything [15:59] netgears i've used have generally worked well for a few years [15:59] never had an sus [15:59] An asus [16:10] winr4r: seems to go crazy with a reload loop if you have cookies and js disabled \o/ [16:11] i have a problem with gatekeepers [16:11] which is, people who seem to have more of an interest in controlling access to shit than making shit widely available [16:11] yeah [16:11] "advancing knowledge and the arts" [16:12] hm, that page seems the same like that map collection [16:13] cant remember the name [16:13] masive amazing collection of historic maps [16:13] i'm glad they're making stuff available, a bit sad that they really like controlling access to it [16:13] but nobody's perfect [16:13] http://www.davidrumsey.com/ [16:14] ah http://www.lunaimaging.com/ [16:14] i once printed a map after stitching the highres parts [16:14] iirc i later realised that i could have requested the full file [16:15] okay, i just noticed the "export" button [16:15] ignore all the above [16:15] nice [16:15] consider asking them nicely though [16:15] maybe they see archive.org and say "hell yeah" [16:17] yeah, maybe [16:20] i have crankygeeks episode 230 uploaded [16:20] :-D [16:21] :D [17:06] i have uploaded episode 233 of crankygeeks [17:06] only 4 more to go [17:08] stupid bash question: i have a file with lines that have two strings each, eg "argument1 argument2". i want to pass those to a shell script as arguments $1 and $2 [17:08] this should be trivial but right now, i am clueless [17:10] "for i in `cat file`; do echo $i; done" cuts each line in two and prints argument1 and argument2 on new lines [17:11] Schbirid: use the read builtin [17:12] oh god, i did and wrote a : by accident and did not investigate why it failed [17:12] thanks for reminding me to take a closer look [17:12] durrrr [17:12] :) [17:14] http://en.kioskea.net/faq/1757-how-to-read-a-file-line-by-line [17:15] YES I KNOW THAT [17:15] :P [17:20] sorry, just trying to be helpful [17:41] i'm up to episode 235 of crankygeeks [18:02] all of crankygeeks is on archive.org now: http://archive.org/details/crankygeeks_237_episode